Bledisloe 1
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@Bones i dont feel anything other than admitting WJ should be hung from the crossbar is going to be an acceptable answer...but i'll try
yes, reece is very unlucky and looked much better at 14, i would have him there again
WJ has not achieved the same levels at 14 as we've seen previously, either his own or other 15's we've played at 14
JW should perform or lose his spot
....i was just suggesting giving him a run in a position he might play better in before writing him off...even if to get his confidence back up@Kiwiwomble said in Bledisloe 1:
i dont feel anything other than admitting WJ should be hung from the crossbar is going to be an acceptable answer.
Yeah good one!
In response to the rest of your post - any idea how often he's played fullback at test level? I haven't, but I get the feeling he's spent the majority of his career on the wing. Surely he should be pretty damn comfortable there?
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Maybe Clarke should make way for Reece.
Clarke has been weak on defence and has made a few mistakes.Reece has a much higher work rate than Clarke who makes a couple of Runs in a game and not much else as far as work rate..@Chris said in Bledisloe 1:
Maybe
ClarkeJordan should make way for Reece.
ClarkeJordan has been weak on defence and has made a few mistakes.Reece has a much higher work rate thanClarkeJordan who makes a couple of Runs in a game and not much else as far as work rate..I know right
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@Billy-Tell said in Bledisloe 1:
I’m ok with the team except I would have brought Reece back. Not sure what he did to get dropped tbh other than play pretty well against Ireland.
Sotutu needs to take his opportunity. It’s entirely in his hands.
While I really hope he does step up, it seems a little rough to pass total judgement on a guy who has been completely ignored by selectors for weeks and as a result has played fuck-all rugby for an age.
@voodoo said in Bledisloe 1:
@Billy-Tell said in Bledisloe 1:
I’m ok with the team except I would have brought Reece back. Not sure what he did to get dropped tbh other than play pretty well against Ireland.
Sotutu needs to take his opportunity. It’s entirely in his hands.
While I really hope he does step up, it seems a little rough to pass total judgement on a guy who has been completely ignored by selectors for weeks and as a result has played fuck-all rugby for an age.
Life is tough at the top. If he doesn’t play well he won’t be in the mix for the next test.
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@Kiwiwomble said in Bledisloe 1:
i dont feel anything other than admitting WJ should be hung from the crossbar is going to be an acceptable answer.
Yeah good one!
In response to the rest of your post - any idea how often he's played fullback at test level? I haven't, but I get the feeling he's spent the majority of his career on the wing. Surely he should be pretty damn comfortable there?
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@Bones but hes obviously not or at least not as comfortable as reece....
you seem to not want WJ on the wing...but also not want him anywhere else?
@Kiwiwomble said in Bledisloe 1:
@Bones but hes obviously not or at least not as comfortable as reece....
you seem to not want WJ on the wing...but also not want him anywhere else?
Or he's just not as good!
Nah, not really interested in him elsewhere unless required, if he can't perform on the wing. No idea what's going on with him, but he looks disinterested a lot of the time - that will be shown up tenfold at fullback.
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Maybe Clarke should make way for Reece.
Clarke has been weak on defence and has made a few mistakes.Reece has a much higher work rate than Clarke who makes a couple of Runs in a game and not much else as far as work rate..@Chris said in Bledisloe 1:
Maybe Clarke should make way for Reece.
Clarke has been weak on defence and has made a few mistakes.Reece has a much higher work rate than Clarke who makes a couple of Runs in a game and not much else as far as work rate..I think Clarke's power is a nice point of difference that we didn't have last year. With finally getting consistent footy he's showing improvement week on week.
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@Kiwiwomble said in Bledisloe 1:
@Bones but hes obviously not or at least not as comfortable as reece....
you seem to not want WJ on the wing...but also not want him anywhere else?
Or he's just not as good!
Nah, not really interested in him elsewhere unless required, if he can't perform on the wing. No idea what's going on with him, but he looks disinterested a lot of the time - that will be shown up tenfold at fullback.
@Bones said in Bledisloe 1:
@Kiwiwomble said in Bledisloe 1:
@Bones but hes obviously not or at least not as comfortable as reece....
you seem to not want WJ on the wing...but also not want him anywhere else?
Or he's just not as good!
Nah, not really interested in him elsewhere unless required, if he can't perform on the wing. No idea what's going on with him, but he looks disinterested a lot of the time - that will be shown up tenfold at fullback.
agreed, maybe he's not, but there has been plenty to suggest he might be a pretty good...so was just suggesting making sure before casting him aside
I disagree that wing is any easier than fullback where if your not good at one you cant be good at the other, theyre just different positions, we have already seen jordie look average at 14 but much more comfortable at 15
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@Chris said in Bledisloe 1:
Maybe
ClarkeJordan should make way for Reece.
ClarkeJordan has been weak on defence and has made a few mistakes.Reece has a much higher work rate thanClarkeJordan who makes a couple of Runs in a game and not much else as far as work rate..I know right
@Bones said in Bledisloe 1:
@Chris said in Bledisloe 1:
Maybe
ClarkeJordan should make way for Reece.
ClarkeJordan has been weak on defence and has made a few mistakes.Reece has a much higher work rate thanClarkeJordan who makes a couple of Runs in a game and not much else as far as work rate..I know right
Shaky hand there ? you put the line through through the wrong player.
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@Bones said in Bledisloe 1:
@Kiwiwomble said in Bledisloe 1:
@Bones but hes obviously not or at least not as comfortable as reece....
you seem to not want WJ on the wing...but also not want him anywhere else?
Or he's just not as good!
Nah, not really interested in him elsewhere unless required, if he can't perform on the wing. No idea what's going on with him, but he looks disinterested a lot of the time - that will be shown up tenfold at fullback.
agreed, maybe he's not, but there has been plenty to suggest he might be a pretty good...so was just suggesting making sure before casting him aside
I disagree that wing is any easier than fullback where if your not good at one you cant be good at the other, theyre just different positions, we have already seen jordie look average at 14 but much more comfortable at 15
@Kiwiwomble said in Bledisloe 1:
I disagree that wing is any easier than fullback where if your not good at one you cant be good at the other, theyre just different positions, we have already seen jordie look average at 14 but much more comfortable at 15
Says the hooker :winking_face: to the contrary - we've already seen Jordan look comfortable on the wing. Maybe he needs a de Groot style kick up the arse?
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@Bones said in Bledisloe 1:
Clarke and Jordan are going to absolutely smoke it this weekend.
I don’t care what they choose to do after their Thursday night rugby game as long as it’s 1-0 to the good guys in the Bledisloe
@Nevorian said in Bledisloe 1:
@Bones said in Bledisloe 1:
Clarke and Jordan are going to absolutely smoke it this weekend.
I don’t care what they choose to do after their Thursday night rugby game as long as it’s 1-0 to the good guys in the Bledisloe
it's a long weekend ok!
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@Chris said in Bledisloe 1:
Maybe Clarke should make way for Reece.
Clarke has been weak on defence and has made a few mistakes.Reece has a much higher work rate than Clarke who makes a couple of Runs in a game and not much else as far as work rate..I think Clarke's power is a nice point of difference that we didn't have last year. With finally getting consistent footy he's showing improvement week on week.
@KiwiMurph said in Bledisloe 1:
I think Clarke's power is a nice point of difference that we didn't have last year. With finally getting consistent footy he's showing improvement week on week.
Let's just hope his boots have longer sprigs this time.
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@Kiwiwomble said in Bledisloe 1:
I disagree that wing is any easier than fullback where if your not good at one you cant be good at the other, theyre just different positions, we have already seen jordie look average at 14 but much more comfortable at 15
Says the hooker :winking_face: to the contrary - we've already seen Jordan look comfortable on the wing. Maybe he needs a de Groot style kick up the arse?
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@Bones i dont actually disagree with anything you're saying...i just dont know why anyone would be SO against just seeing him in what i thought was generally accepted as his best position
@Kiwiwomble said in Bledisloe 1:
@Bones i dont actually disagree with anything you're saying...i just dont know why anyone would be SO against just seeing him in what i thought was generally accepted as his best position
Because he's been lackadaisical and uncommitted and that would be exposed brutally at fullback against a side who see this as probably their best chance in 20 years to get a hand on the bledisloe and perhaps even a win at EP.
I don't know why anyone would be SO for taking such a risk.
You can't hide a shit fullback at fullback.
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I saw an interview with Fozzie a little while back , maybe a month ago , and he was questioned on Jordan at FB ,
And he said we are trying to get them to play sort of dual fullback roles regardless of their numbers , we like what Jordie Brings with his more defensive aspects , high ball , kicking game etc and we are trying to get Will involved in a roving role injecting himself into the play on attack .
Doesnt seem to be working
