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  • NTAN Offline
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    #721

    Why fetch when you've got no intention to attack the ruck?<br><br>
    Eddie is using what he's got - in 2003 he used two openside flankers because they were better than the other options. <br><br>
    Now he's decided to just tackle the fuck out of everything because that is what this crop of blokes does best.

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      #722

      <p>ENGLAND</p>
      <p> </p>
      <p style="color:rgb(40,40,40);font-family:helvetica, arial, sans-serif;"><span style="font-size:14px;"><span style="font-family:arial, helvetica, sans-serif;"><span style="color:rgb(0,0,0);">1. Mako Vunipola (34)  2. Dylan Hartley © (74)  3. Dan Cole (64)  4. Maro Itoje (6)  5. George Kruis (17)  6. Chris Robshaw (50)  7. Teimana Harrison (1)  8. Billy Vunipola (28)</span></span></span></p>
      <p style="color:rgb(40,40,40);font-family:helvetica, arial, sans-serif;"><span style="font-size:14px;"><span style="font-family:arial, helvetica, sans-serif;"><span style="color:rgb(0,0,0);">9. Ben Youngs (60)  10. George Ford (24)  11. Jack Nowell (16)  12. Owen Farrell (42)  13. Jonathan Joseph (24)  14. Anthony Watson (23)  15. Mike Brown (51)</span></span></span></p>
      <p style="color:rgb(40,40,40);font-family:helvetica, arial, sans-serif;"> </p>
      <p style="color:rgb(40,40,40);font-family:helvetica, arial, sans-serif;"><span style="font-size:14px;"><span style="font-family:arial, helvetica, sans-serif;"><span style="color:rgb(0,0,0);"><em>Reserves:</em> </span></span></span></p>
      <p style="color:rgb(40,40,40);font-family:helvetica, arial, sans-serif;"><span style="font-size:14px;"><span style="font-family:arial, helvetica, sans-serif;"><span style="color:rgb(0,0,0);">16. Jamie George (7)  17. Matt Mullan (12)  18. Paul Hill (4)  19. Joe Launchbury (34)  20. Courtney Lawes (48)  21. Jack Clifford (7)  22. Danny Care (61)  23. Elliot Daly (4)</span></span></span></p>
      <p style="color:rgb(40,40,40);font-family:helvetica, arial, sans-serif;"> </p>
      <p style="color:rgb(40,40,40);font-family:helvetica, arial, sans-serif;"><span style="color:rgb(34,34,34);font-family:'Helvetica Neue', Arial, Verdana, sans-serif;"><a data-ipb='nomediaparse' href='http://www.englandrugby.com/news/harrison-starts-final-test-sydney/'>http://www.englandrugby.com/news/harrison-starts-final-test-sydney/</a></span></p>

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      • CatograndeC Offline
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        #723

        Not a lot of controversy in that squad. Let's hope we can finish the job properly. Some possession would be nice.

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          #724

          <blockquote class="ipsBlockquote" data-author="Catogrande" data-cid="590855" data-time="1466678075">
          <div>
          <p>Some possession would be nice.</p>
          </div>
          </blockquote>
          <p> </p>
          <p>Would make for a prettier game to watch.</p>
          <p> </p>
          <p>I'm still flummoxed by the selection for the Wallabies. Genuinely can't see how the changes address the astonishing incompetence of last week.</p>

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          • gollumG Offline
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            gollum
            wrote on last edited by
            #725

            <blockquote class="ipsBlockquote" data-author="NTA" data-cid="590843" data-time="1466675957">
            <div>
            <p>Why fetch when you've got no intention to attack the ruck?<br><br>
            Eddie is using what he's got - in 2003 he used two openside flankers because they were better than the other options.<br><br>
            Now he's decided to just tackle the fuck out of everything because that is what this crop of blokes does best.</p>
            </div>
            </blockquote>
            <p> </p>
            <p>Helps that he has Itoje too who is one of the most, if not <em>the </em>most mobile locks around. That boy is a legend in the making. They are virtually playing 3 6's & Billy. And then Launchbury & Lawes on the bench could easily play 6 in test rugby (Lawes has). England have a genuine claim to 4 or 5 of the top 10 locks in world rugby right now.</p>
            <p> </p>
            <p>Its not entirely dissimilar to the tactic the ABs used in the second half of the WC games bringing on Vito & playing Read as a lock. Might be a pointer to later in the season for us if we bring Ardie or Dixon on as a blindside & move Kaino to lock.</p>

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            • MiketheSnowM Offline
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              wrote on last edited by
              #726

              <blockquote class="ipsBlockquote" data-author="Catogrande" data-cid="590855" data-time="1466678075">
              <div>
              <p>Not a lot of controversy in that squad. Let's hope we can finish the job properly. Some possession would be nice.</p>
              </div>
              </blockquote>
              <p> </p>
              <p>Going for the whitewash.</p>
              <p> </p>
              <p>Be nice to see Clifford and Daly have some quality game time.</p>

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              • CatograndeC Offline
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                Catogrande
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                #727

                <blockquote class="ipsBlockquote" data-time="1466679281" data-cid="590863" data-author="MiketheSnow"><p>Going for the whitewash.<br> <br>Be nice to see Clifford and Daly have some quality game time.</p></blockquote><br>Yeah, I'd like to see those two with more game time too but barring injury or a comfortable lead I don't see them having much more than a cameo.

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                • gollumG Offline
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                  #728

                  <p>I'm kinda gutted for Alex Goode, its not like Brown has been lighting it up..</p>

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                  • CatograndeC Offline
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                    #729

                    <blockquote class="ipsBlockquote" data-time="1466683650" data-cid="590871" data-author="gollum"><p>I'm kinda gutted for Alex Goode, its not like Brown has been lighting it up..</p></blockquote><br>True regarding Brown, he's not shown the form of the previous year or two but even then his current form is better than Goode has previously shown in an England shirt. Being fait to Goode, his form for Sarries has been very good but he seems to me to be one of those guys that can't quite take the step up. I would be very reluctant to drop Brown for Goode just on a drop in form over a couple of games or so.

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                    • S Offline
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                      #730

                      <p>Wallabies need to play Brumbies-ball in close to suck in the English forwards and Nick Phipps....have a friggen go ya knob!!!!!! I think we have seen the Wallabies can't play the Poms at their own game. They have been physically dominated and outsmarted.This has been sad to see cos the strength of the Wallabies has always been outsmarting the opposition. They constantly beat the Boks cos they are smart, They beat the pre-McCaw/Carter mob cos they were smart. They have been dumb this series. One half of me is rejoicing the dumbing down of Wallaby rugby, but the love of the game half thinks it is tragic. C'mon ya obnoxious, over-confident, foul-mouthed, nasally accented gits over the ditch, regain your swagger and send these Poms packing. Use your noggins!!!!! </p>

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                      • R Offline
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                        reprobate
                        wrote on last edited by
                        #731

                        <blockquote class="ipsBlockquote" data-author="Catogrande" data-cid="590855" data-time="1466678075"><p>
                        Not a lot of controversy in that squad. Let's hope we can finish the job properly. Some possession would be nice.</p></blockquote>
                        <br>
                        If Eddie wanted possession I don't think your fellas would be kicking it away every time they got it. Apart from the only important one, the score, the other stat england led in was number of kicks. Very dominant in that.

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                        • CatograndeC Offline
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                          Catogrande
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                          #732

                          Point.

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                          • D Offline
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                            Disgusted of TW
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                            #733

                            <blockquote class="ipsBlockquote" data-author="reprobate" data-cid="590877" data-time="1466689208"><p>If Eddie wanted possession I don't think your fellas would be kicking it away every time they got it. Apart from the only important one, the score, the other stat england led in was number of kicks. Very dominant in that.</p></blockquote>
                            <br>
                            Greasy ball in Melbourne, kicking not the worst option. What's the weather forecast for Sydney?

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                            • C Offline
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                              Cookie
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                              #734

                              Hey us Poms have enough trouble passing the ball at the best times, let alone if it's slippery, greasy, insert excuse here<br><br>
                              Looks like it's going to be dry I n Sydney on match day and my prediction based on absolutely nothing at all, is that England will run it a lot more (although you could argue they could hardly run it any less than last week). My guess is that Eddie will want to show we have developed a few more strings to our bow and also catch the Aussies by surprise by not kicking the leather off everything.

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                                #735

                                <p>If i had the best scrum, the best lineout, the best tackling, and the best goal kicker, i would be kicking every single piece of ball i got. It's not pretty, but it gets the job done. </p>

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                                • SammyCS Offline
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                                  #736

                                  <p>Agree, I also quite like watching the different style of game played by England too. </p>
                                  <p> </p>
                                  <p>There's more than 1 way to win a rugby game.</p>
                                  <p> </p>
                                  <p>Seems like in recent years everyone has tried to copy the All Blacks plan and failed. </p>

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                                    #737

                                    <blockquote class="ipsBlockquote" data-author="Disgusted of TW" data-cid="590879" data-time="1466689940">
                                    <div>
                                    <p>Greasy ball in Melbourne, kicking not the worst option. What's the weather forecast for Sydney?</p>
                                    </div>
                                    </blockquote>
                                    <p> </p>
                                    <p>Bit of rain around today but quite windy, so shouldn't be here for long, or be too detrimental.</p>
                                    <p> </p>
                                    <p>Tomorrow is sunny and cold as a front comes across the continent, dumping snow on the ranges.</p>
                                    <p> </p>
                                    <p><a data-ipb='nomediaparse' href='http://www.weatherzone.com.au/nsw/sydney/randwick'>http://www.weatherzone.com.au/nsw/sydney/randwick</a></p>

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                                      #738

                                      <blockquote class="ipsBlockquote" data-author="SammyC" data-cid="590928" data-time="1466724861">
                                      <div>
                                      <p>There's more than 1 way to win a rugby game.</p>
                                      </div>
                                      </blockquote>
                                      <p> </p>
                                      <p>and the corollary - the body types needed to win a rugby game depend on the style you'll use to win.</p>
                                      <p> </p>
                                      <p>Our law makers lost sight of this at their peril</p>

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                                        #739

                                        <blockquote class="ipsBlockquote" data-author="SammyC" data-cid="590928" data-time="1466724861">
                                        <div>
                                        <p>Agree, I also quite like watching the different style of game played by England too. </p>
                                        <p> </p>
                                        <p>There's more than 1 way to win a rugby game.</p>
                                        <p> </p>
                                        <p><strong>Seems like in recent years everyone has tried to copy the All Blacks plan and failed. </strong></p>
                                        </div>
                                        </blockquote>
                                        <p> </p>
                                        <p>That's the thing, you can see another team play, but you will never be able to replicate what they do, sure you can try to play a more expansive style, but you need to be able to do so with the cattle you have.</p>
                                        <p> </p>
                                        <p>The last couple of years England looked like they were trying to play a style of game that the players simply couldn't do naturally, and if what you are trying isn't natural and instinctive, then you will fail.</p>
                                        <p> </p>
                                        <p>I see kids on Saturdays running it from everywhere, because at that age they enjoy running with the ball rather than kicking it away and playing the defensive game (although I am trying to teach TR Jnr tackling is the best part of a game!)</p>

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                                          #740

                                          <blockquote class="ipsBlockquote" data-author="Bovidae" data-cid="590695" data-time="1466640890">
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                                          <p>Does Mumm have some incriminating photos of Cheika? </p>
                                          </div>
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                                          <p> </p>
                                          <blockquote class="ipsBlockquote" data-author="NTA" data-cid="590696" data-time="1466640997">
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                                          <p>Well, he's not yet on the bench - one of Mumm, Palu, or Coleman will go I think, depending on Eddie's team announcement, which I assume is this afternoon.</p>
                                          </div>
                                          </blockquote>
                                          <p> </p>
                                          <p> </p>
                                          <p>Apparently, Mumm doesn't have incriminating photos of Cheika (anymore):</p>
                                          <p> </p>
                                          <blockquote class="ipsBlockquote">
                                          <p>Coleman has been selected on the bench over Dean Mumm, who will drop out of the 23.</p>
                                          </blockquote>
                                          <p> </p>
                                          <div>Wallabies team to face England in third Test</div>
                                          <div> </div>
                                          <div>1. James Slipper 2. Stephen Moore (c) 3. Sekope Kepu 4. Will Skelton 5. Rob Simmons 6. Scott Fardy 7. Michael Hooperr (vc) 8. Sean McMahon</div>
                                          <div>9. Nick Phipps 10. Bernard Foley 11. Rob Horne (vc)  12. Matt Toomua 13. Tevita Kuridrani 14. Dane Haylett-Petty 15. Israel Folau</div>
                                          <div> </div>
                                          <div>Replacements</div>
                                          <div> </div>
                                          <div>Tatafu Polota-Nau, Scott Sio, Greg Holmes, Adam Coleman (Uncapped), Wycliff Palu, Nick Frisby, Christian Leali'ifano, Taqele Naiyaravoro (1 Test)</div>
                                          <div> </div>
                                          <p> </p>
                                          <p><a data-ipb='nomediaparse' href='http://www.rugby.com.au/news/2016/06/24/01/16/coleman-to-make-test-debut'>http://www.rugby.com.au/news/2016/06/24/01/16/coleman-to-make-test-debut</a></p>

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