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Bledisloe 2

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    @Crucial said in Foster:

    I didn't think that there is any serious talk of him going beyond the RWC?

    The sail is set with the coaching team for the RWC now and they need to see this through for better or worse.

    Last night was an improvement in that we got the W in an error ridden performance. Lots of work ons and lessons to absorb. Focus will obviously now be on sorting out next week and especially the bench with shudder Ennor.

    Play JB at 12, RI will be 13. RTS on the bench. I'd like to see Reece in for Clarke, but I reckon CC stays. Jordan stays on his wing and BB plays at 15. Despite being past his prime I felt like Beaudy was at the heart of some of the good stuff we did

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    • canefanC canefan

      @Crucial said in Foster:

      I didn't think that there is any serious talk of him going beyond the RWC?

      The sail is set with the coaching team for the RWC now and they need to see this through for better or worse.

      Last night was an improvement in that we got the W in an error ridden performance. Lots of work ons and lessons to absorb. Focus will obviously now be on sorting out next week and especially the bench with shudder Ennor.

      Play JB at 12, RI will be 13. RTS on the bench. I'd like to see Reece in for Clarke, but I reckon CC stays. Jordan stays on his wing and BB plays at 15. Despite being past his prime I felt like Beaudy was at the heart of some of the good stuff we did

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      @canefan said in Foster:

      @Crucial said in Foster:

      I didn't think that there is any serious talk of him going beyond the RWC?

      The sail is set with the coaching team for the RWC now and they need to see this through for better or worse.

      Last night was an improvement in that we got the W in an error ridden performance. Lots of work ons and lessons to absorb. Focus will obviously now be on sorting out next week and especially the bench with shudder Ennor.

      Play JB at 12, RI will be 13. RTS on the bench. I'd like to see Reece in for Clarke, but I reckon CC stays. Jordan stays on his wing and BB plays at 15. Despite being past his prime I felt like Beaudy was at the heart of some of the good stuff we did

      They may do this, but I am not sure it'll be successful. RM and BB haven't exactly clicked and I am not sure putting JB at 12 will help in that regard. I thought RM looked surplus last night after the ABs after BB.

      If JB is played at 12 I would rather it be outside his brother with RM on the bench.

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      • Crazy HorseC Crazy Horse

        @canefan said in Foster:

        @Crucial said in Foster:

        I didn't think that there is any serious talk of him going beyond the RWC?

        The sail is set with the coaching team for the RWC now and they need to see this through for better or worse.

        Last night was an improvement in that we got the W in an error ridden performance. Lots of work ons and lessons to absorb. Focus will obviously now be on sorting out next week and especially the bench with shudder Ennor.

        Play JB at 12, RI will be 13. RTS on the bench. I'd like to see Reece in for Clarke, but I reckon CC stays. Jordan stays on his wing and BB plays at 15. Despite being past his prime I felt like Beaudy was at the heart of some of the good stuff we did

        They may do this, but I am not sure it'll be successful. RM and BB haven't exactly clicked and I am not sure putting JB at 12 will help in that regard. I thought RM looked surplus last night after the ABs after BB.

        If JB is played at 12 I would rather it be outside his brother with RM on the bench.

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        @Crazy-Horse he's used to playing outside Morgan who is more like RM.

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        • BonesB Bones

          @Crazy-Horse he's used to playing outside Morgan who is more like RM.

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          @Bones said in Foster:

          @Crazy-Horse he's used to playing outside Morgan who is more like RM.

          I was more concerned at the prospect of BB being at 15 with RM at 10. That has not worked and I suspect adding JB into the playmaking mix may complicate things too much.

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          • Crazy HorseC Crazy Horse

            @Bones said in Foster:

            @Crazy-Horse he's used to playing outside Morgan who is more like RM.

            I was more concerned at the prospect of BB being at 15 with RM at 10. That has not worked and I suspect adding JB into the playmaking mix may complicate things too much.

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            @Crazy-Horse said in Bledisloe 2:

            @Bones said in Foster:

            @Crazy-Horse he's used to playing outside Morgan who is more like RM.

            I was more concerned at the prospect of BB being at 15 with RM at 10. That has not worked and I suspect adding JB into the playmaking mix may complicate things too much.

            @Crazy-Horse said in Bledisloe 2:

            @Bones said in Foster:

            @Crazy-Horse he's used to playing outside Morgan who is more like RM.

            I was more concerned at the prospect of BB being at 15 with RM at 10. That has not worked and I suspect adding JB into the playmaking mix may complicate things too much.

            Don't think JB at 12 is really an extra playmaker just a bigger body with a big boot.

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            • Crazy HorseC Crazy Horse

              @Bones said in Foster:

              @Crazy-Horse he's used to playing outside Morgan who is more like RM.

              I was more concerned at the prospect of BB being at 15 with RM at 10. That has not worked and I suspect adding JB into the playmaking mix may complicate things too much.

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              @Crazy-Horse said in Bledisloe 2:

              @Bones said in Foster:

              @Crazy-Horse he's used to playing outside Morgan who is more like RM.

              I was more concerned at the prospect of BB being at 15 with RM at 10. That has not worked and I suspect adding JB into the playmaking mix may complicate things too much.

              Yeah I don't really see that JB would play more of a playmaking role than DH?

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                Here’s our 10-15 for Bledisloe 2

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                  ABs by a thousand

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                  • ACT CrusaderA Offline
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                    So with Cane failing the HIA on Thursday, is he out also?

                    Still a question mark over Ardie’s availability?

                    3x locks plus Papalii and Sotutu to start. Ioane and Jacobsen on the bench perhaps.

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                    • ACT CrusaderA ACT Crusader

                      So with Cane failing the HIA on Thursday, is he out also?

                      Still a question mark over Ardie’s availability?

                      3x locks plus Papalii and Sotutu to start. Ioane and Jacobsen on the bench perhaps.

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                      @ACT-Crusader said in Bledisloe 2:

                      So with Cane failing the HIA on Thursday, is he out also?

                      I read Cane wasn't tested at the ground but tested later last night and passed so it's up in the air.

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                        #11

                        I heard, can't remember where though, that he will be available but DH will not.

                        Will have to be JB at 12, I don't see any other options

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                          Papalii is not going to make it. He is consistently anonymous at this level. Pity.

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                          • Billy TellB Billy Tell

                            Papalii is not going to make it. He is consistently anonymous at this level. Pity.

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                            @Billy-Tell said in Bledisloe 2:

                            Papalii is not going to make it. He is consistently anonymous at this level. Pity.

                            Same with Fakatava, Vaai, Goodhue, Faingaanuku and Sotutu. Can them all.

                            Edit: something which would be interesting would be to see the progression of Cane at 24, looks like he debuted at 20 so I guess he was just into getting regular starts.

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                            • D Darren

                              I heard, can't remember where though, that he will be available but DH will not.

                              Will have to be JB at 12, I don't see any other options

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                              @Darren said in Bledisloe 2:

                              I heard, can't remember where though, that he will be available but DH will not.

                              Will have to be JB at 12, I don't see any other options

                              Maybe available. He had concussion some but passed the day one test (like sexton) so he could be available. There's another test later, but also ABs have been traditionally very conservative with head knocked. So I don't see cane playing even if he is available

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                              • KiwiMurphK KiwiMurph

                                @ACT-Crusader said in Bledisloe 2:

                                So with Cane failing the HIA on Thursday, is he out also?

                                I read Cane wasn't tested at the ground but tested later last night and passed so it's up in the air.

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                                @KiwiMurph said in Bledisloe 2:

                                @ACT-Crusader said in Bledisloe 2:

                                So with Cane failing the HIA on Thursday, is he out also?

                                I read Cane wasn't tested at the ground but tested later last night and passed so it's up in the air.

                                I hope he's back. He was missed once he went off.

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                                • ACT CrusaderA ACT Crusader

                                  So with Cane failing the HIA on Thursday, is he out also?

                                  Still a question mark over Ardie’s availability?

                                  3x locks plus Papalii and Sotutu to start. Ioane and Jacobsen on the bench perhaps.

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                                  @ACT-Crusader said in Bledisloe 2:

                                  Still a question mark over Ardie’s availability?

                                  He'll be back. Foster made a comment that implied the baby had been born.

                                  The easiest option is JB to 12 and BB to 15, i.e., the backline that played in the 2nd half. I also don't think that the RM-BB combo has worked that well.

                                  Putting RTS at 12, in combination with Ioane, could also be looked at. Less disruption and you still have the aerial strength and big boot of JB at the back. BB to provide impact off the bench.

                                  I think there may also be some tweaks in the reserve forwards like Ofa for Newell.

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                                  • D Darren

                                    I heard, can't remember where though, that he will be available but DH will not.

                                    Will have to be JB at 12, I don't see any other options

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                                    @Darren said in Bledisloe 2:

                                    I heard, can't remember where though, that he will be available but DH will not.

                                    Will have to be JB at 12, I don't see any other options

                                    RTS? Straight swap rather than re jigging the backing like @Bovidae says

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                                    • BonesB Bones

                                      @Crazy-Horse said in Bledisloe 2:

                                      @Bones said in Foster:

                                      @Crazy-Horse he's used to playing outside Morgan who is more like RM.

                                      I was more concerned at the prospect of BB being at 15 with RM at 10. That has not worked and I suspect adding JB into the playmaking mix may complicate things too much.

                                      Yeah I don't really see that JB would play more of a playmaking role than DH?

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                                      @Bones said in Bledisloe 2:

                                      @Crazy-Horse said in Bledisloe 2:

                                      @Bones said in Foster:

                                      @Crazy-Horse he's used to playing outside Morgan who is more like RM.

                                      I was more concerned at the prospect of BB being at 15 with RM at 10. That has not worked and I suspect adding JB into the playmaking mix may complicate things too much.

                                      Yeah I don't really see that JB would play more of a playmaking role than DH?

                                      Still missing my point. I have no issue with JB being at 12 no matter how he plays. My issue is with RM at 10 if BB is at 15. Those two haven't worked out how to play well together.

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                                      • BonesB Bones

                                        @Crazy-Horse said in Bledisloe 2:

                                        @Bones said in Foster:

                                        @Crazy-Horse he's used to playing outside Morgan who is more like RM.

                                        I was more concerned at the prospect of BB being at 15 with RM at 10. That has not worked and I suspect adding JB into the playmaking mix may complicate things too much.

                                        Yeah I don't really see that JB would play more of a playmaking role than DH?

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                                        @Bones said in Bledisloe 2:

                                        @Crazy-Horse said in Bledisloe 2:

                                        @Bones said in Foster:

                                        @Crazy-Horse he's used to playing outside Morgan who is more like RM.

                                        I was more concerned at the prospect of BB being at 15 with RM at 10. That has not worked and I suspect adding JB into the playmaking mix may complicate things too much.

                                        Yeah I don't really see that JB would play more of a playmaking role than DH?

                                        In Bled 1 he just seemed to do the basics reasonably well. Cart it up or pass outside. The one cross field kick he did was very good because the aussies were nowhere to be found

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                                        • boobooB booboo

                                          @Darren said in Bledisloe 2:

                                          I heard, can't remember where though, that he will be available but DH will not.

                                          Will have to be JB at 12, I don't see any other options

                                          RTS? Straight swap rather than re jigging the backing like @Bovidae says

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                                          @booboo said in Bledisloe 2:

                                          @Darren said in Bledisloe 2:

                                          I heard, can't remember where though, that he will be available but DH will not.

                                          Will have to be JB at 12, I don't see any other options

                                          RTS? Straight swap rather than re jigging the backing like @Bovidae says

                                          Being selected in midfield for the ABs is almost like an invitation to guest of honour at a career-threatening-injury party.

                                          So it depends who you want to get injured the least, I guess.

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