Bledisloe 1
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@gt12 said in Bledisloe 1:
That’s a miiiiiiiile forward
I recall the comms going on about Foley taking the kick quickly so the TMO can't intervene.
Is that an actual protocol, or just what everyone thinks it is?
Somewhere, sometime, I recall someone saying that wasn't the case.
Can anyone confirm?
@booboo ref usually tells him to stop if he is checking (although Foley clearly has hearing issues
) and I think at this point is only at NPC they are allowing it to be called back post conversion...? -
@voodoo it was a few of the high shots that showed our defence, and is concerning with the lack of width and shape we use.
Is quite concerning that we have kept the same defence coach since 2017? and defence has been consistently poor, with no apparent improvement or innovation
@taniwharugby said in Bledisloe 1:
@voodoo it was a few of the high shots that showed our defence, and is concerning with the lack of width and shape we use.
Is quite concerning that we have kept the same defence coach since 2017? and defence has been consistently poor, with no apparent improvement or innovation
100%. Mcleod's system continues to be poor. He lives a charmed life.
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@nostrildamus said in Bledisloe 1:
@Machpants said in Bledisloe 1:
@Steve said in Bledisloe 1:
@Chris said in Bledisloe 1:
Fuck Clarke no idea in defence
Sevu Reece step up.
He did. Got dropped
didn't deserve it though.
Yeah you shouldn't get dropped for playing well, but this is foster
@Machpants said in Bledisloe 1:
@nostrildamus said in Bledisloe 1:
@Machpants said in Bledisloe 1:
@Steve said in Bledisloe 1:
@Chris said in Bledisloe 1:
Fuck Clarke no idea in defence
Sevu Reece step up.
He did. Got dropped
didn't deserve it though.
Yeah you shouldn't get dropped for playing well, but this is foster
Hmm.
"Dropped", not "replaced by a player that brings a different skill set"?
I'm a Reece fan.
And Clarke had his moments, good and awful, sometimes at the same time. But you can see why they pick him.
I just question the narrative that he was "dropped", when someone else is preferred.
But I suppose that doesn't fit the narrative.
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@Joans-Town-Jones said in Bledisloe 1:
@Victor-Meldrew said in Bledisloe 1:
@Joans-Town-Jones said in Bledisloe 1:
I'm sorry but why are they celebrating???
What would you prefer they did? Stab themselves?
After that, yes.
@Machpants said in Bledisloe 1:
@Joans-Town-Jones said in Bledisloe 1:
@Victor-Meldrew said in Bledisloe 1:
@Joans-Town-Jones said in Bledisloe 1:
I'm sorry but why are they celebrating???
What would you prefer they did? Stab themselves?
After that, yes.
Accountability
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@gt12 said in Bledisloe 1:
That’s a miiiiiiiile forward
I recall the comms going on about Foley taking the kick quickly so the TMO can't intervene.
Is that an actual protocol, or just what everyone thinks it is?
Somewhere, sometime, I recall someone saying that wasn't the case.
Can anyone confirm?
@booboo this is what Foster said on it
"The other one that wasn’t clearcut was when Kellaway scored and the TMO wanted to look at what was a very suspicious forward pass, and yet the conversion was allowed to be taken," Foster noted.
"All I know was he was telling the guy not to kick the conversion, because they were checking something."
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Speaking of spidercam.
Someone has transcribed the moments from the Foketi penalty until the ref calls turnover.
Foley is told directly and takes an age.
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@booboo said in Bledisloe 1:
Draw is as ggod as a loss
When I mistyped this post I was referring to the Bled.
Either result required us to win at EP (ignoring the likelihood of consecutive draws).
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With all of the focus on the time wasting call no one is looking at the call and actions just before.
That maul was driven sideways from yellow players joining from the sideline side. Same players then drove into the side and split the maul. Then the back section which had the ball had no numbers and went to ground for a yellow player that was on his knees to flop over the ball carrier and make a grab.
If you also add in the call against yellow that gave us the penalty before the line out you could say that Reynal really lost the plot in the final stanza.
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@booboo said in Bledisloe 1:
@Frye said in Bledisloe 1:
@game_film said in Bledisloe 1:
Look at Foley’s team mate screaming at him to kick it. He knew
The commentators saying it's unprecedented but honestly what Foley was doing was taking the piss.
Time wasting is a penalty
Totally. Point one out in an other test
@Machpants said in Bledisloe 1:
@booboo said in Bledisloe 1:
@Frye said in Bledisloe 1:
@game_film said in Bledisloe 1:
Look at Foley’s team mate screaming at him to kick it. He knew
The commentators saying it's unprecedented but honestly what Foley was doing was taking the piss.
Time wasting is a penalty
Totally. Point one out in an other test
Why?
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Speaking of spidercam.
Someone has transcribed the moments from the Foketi penalty until the ref calls turnover.
Foley is told directly and takes an age.
@KiwiMurph given you know he was kicking it seven rows back with distance irrelevant, he cant really point to the forward who were still fucking around too as his reason.
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That doesn't feel like a win to me. Granted, we still had to score, but sheesh.
Really empty victory. Really empty.
Massive sympathy to the Aussies.
@MajorRage said in Bledisloe 1:
That doesn't feel like a win to me. Granted, we still had to score, but sheesh.
Really empty victory. Really empty.
Massive sympathy to the Aussies.
I can see your pov, but for some reason I'm really happy with the result.
Showed character to come back from the fuck ups.
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@Derpus said in Bledisloe 1:
@booboo is that the first time that's been called this decade. Century maybe?
And was it wrong?
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@booboo said in Bledisloe 1:
@Joans-Town-Jones said in Bledisloe 1:
I'm sorry but why are they celebrating??? They had ample opportunity to put that game away with all the YCs, fucked endless opportunities to score, showed complete lack of aptitude in defense and got a unicorn at the end to win. I feel dirty and the ABs again, are complete shit.
Sorry. Thought we/they won?
The won jack shit. With all the advantage they had they needed a unicorn to win.
@Joans-Town-Jones said in Bledisloe 1:
@booboo said in Bledisloe 1:
@Joans-Town-Jones said in Bledisloe 1:
I'm sorry but why are they celebrating??? They had ample opportunity to put that game away with all the YCs, fucked endless opportunities to score, showed complete lack of aptitude in defense and got a unicorn at the end to win. I feel dirty and the ABs again, are complete shit.
Sorry. Thought we/they won?
The won jack shit. With all the advantage they had they needed a unicorn to win.
Sorry, you spelt "the game and Bledisloe Cup" wrong.
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@Kirwan said in Bledisloe 1:
@barbarian said in Bledisloe 1:
@Kirwan said in Bledisloe 1:
@barbarian said in Bledisloe 1:
Nah I’m sorry but that’s fucked. First and only time I’ve ever seen that call, and it’s in the 79th minute of a Bledisloe. Just absolute horse shit.
Take the win NZ. But it’s hardly a famous victory.
What was the ref supposed to do? Just wait for the hooter for the next minute?
Player has to take responsibility.
Blow time off. That’s what he does, and it’s what every ref has done in that situation.
Or just let Foley kick the ball three seconds later and not make the game about him.
But he made a call I’ve literally never seen before. On the back of an incredibly dubious penalty for sealing off.
He blew time off, warned him, put time on and told him to play. Then he impersonated a statue.
Ref was correct.
Someone in the media here has looked at it:
@NTA said in Bledisloe 1:
@Kirwan said in Bledisloe 1:
@barbarian said in Bledisloe 1:
@Kirwan said in Bledisloe 1:
@barbarian said in Bledisloe 1:
Nah I’m sorry but that’s fucked. First and only time I’ve ever seen that call, and it’s in the 79th minute of a Bledisloe. Just absolute horse shit.
Take the win NZ. But it’s hardly a famous victory.
What was the ref supposed to do? Just wait for the hooter for the next minute?
Player has to take responsibility.
Blow time off. That’s what he does, and it’s what every ref has done in that situation.
Or just let Foley kick the ball three seconds later and not make the game about him.
But he made a call I’ve literally never seen before. On the back of an incredibly dubious penalty for sealing off.
He blew time off, warned him, put time on and told him to play. Then he impersonated a statue.
Ref was correct.
Someone in the media here has looked at it:
He illustrates why the call was justified quite nicely, even though he trying to make the opposite point.
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Speaking of spidercam.
Someone has transcribed the moments from the Foketi penalty until the ref calls turnover.
Foley is told directly and takes an age.
@KiwiMurph said in Bledisloe 1:
Speaking of spidercam.
Someone has transcribed the moments from the Foketi penalty until the ref calls turnover.
Foley is told directly and takes an age.
That is the best evidence by far.
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Did my eyes deceive me or did Richie Mounga make a couple of good front on tackles last night?
@Frank said in Bledisloe 1:
Did my eyes deceive me or did Richie Mounga make a couple of good front on tackles last night?
He was the one who tracked back and made a tackle on Kellaway (?) who scored after CC shot out of the line. Fr a poor defender, so I've been told, he makes a lot of tackles.
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@KiwiMurph said in Bledisloe 1:
Speaking of spidercam.
Someone has transcribed the moments from the Foketi penalty until the ref calls turnover.
Foley is told directly and takes an age.
That is the best evidence by far.
@chimoaus said in Bledisloe 1:
@KiwiMurph said in Bledisloe 1:
Speaking of spidercam.
Someone has transcribed the moments from the Foketi penalty until the ref calls turnover.
Foley is told directly and takes an age.
That is the best evidence by far.
I like the way Whitelock and BBBR stopped some ABs getting involved in a confrontation with the Wallabies over the ref's decision. Don't want to give him an excuse to overturn his decision especially if self doubt had started to creep in.
