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All Blacks XV 2022

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  • BonesB Bones

    @ACT-Crusader I think out of anyone, Gatland probably deserves a shot as he's proved to be a good facilitator in big games... the return of David Holwell.

    Ioane the closest to Mo/Beauds in style.

    Perofeta though, plays the game they're wanting with the flat backline, so at least give him a fucking go.

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    @Bones said in All Blacks XV:

    @ACT-Crusader I think out of anyone, Gatland probably deserves a shot as he's proved to be a good facilitator in big games... the return of David Holwell.

    Ioane the closest to Mo/Beauds in style.

    Perofeta though, plays the game they're wanting with the flat backline, so at least give him a fucking go.

    Garland has impressed this year. He’s always been a solid game manager, great boot, steady playmaker but boy has he started taking on the line this year. He deserves a shot IMO.

    Josh Ioane is fast becoming the 2nd coming of Orene Ai’i.

    Five eighths will either be one of McDonald or Perofeta and then Gatland plus a younger player - Aidan Morgan maybe? Pure bolter would be someone like Cashmore, Reihana.

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      @Bones said in All Blacks XV:

      @ACT-Crusader I think out of anyone, Gatland probably deserves a shot as he's proved to be a good facilitator in big games... the return of David Holwell.

      Ioane the closest to Mo/Beauds in style.

      Perofeta though, plays the game they're wanting with the flat backline, so at least give him a fucking go.

      Garland has impressed this year. He’s always been a solid game manager, great boot, steady playmaker but boy has he started taking on the line this year. He deserves a shot IMO.

      Josh Ioane is fast becoming the 2nd coming of Orene Ai’i.

      Five eighths will either be one of McDonald or Perofeta and then Gatland plus a younger player - Aidan Morgan maybe? Pure bolter would be someone like Cashmore, Reihana.

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      @TheMojoman said in All Blacks XV:

      McDonald

      Fuck I thought I was going senile....was racking my brain! I realise now you possibly mean DMac?

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        What is the philosophy behind "All Blacks XV" ? Will it be a team to test young players for the future (Murray, Springer, Hotham, Lakai, Bell, to name just a few) ? Or will it be an All Blacks "B" side (with players such as TJP, Weber, Sowakula, Ta'avao) ? Or will it be a mix of the two ?

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        • C cgrant

          What is the philosophy behind "All Blacks XV" ? Will it be a team to test young players for the future (Murray, Springer, Hotham, Lakai, Bell, to name just a few) ? Or will it be an All Blacks "B" side (with players such as TJP, Weber, Sowakula, Ta'avao) ? Or will it be a mix of the two ?

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          @cgrant This is the original media release about the All Blacks XV:

          https://www.allblacks.com/news/new-high-performance-team-to-tour-from-2020/

          "The high-performance benefits of this team will be significant. It will help to develop the next group of players, many of whom will likely become our future All Blacks, as well as give further opportunities for our coaches and other team personnel.

          "We also believe that this will aid with retention of players and personnel in New Zealand, which will benefit our Super Rugby clubs and provincial unions as well as the All Blacks," Cass said.

          Cass said that, while the concept of a second-tier national team was not new in New Zealand, the intention was for the All Blacks XV to become a regular national team playing second-tier overseas opposition.

          "Teams such as the New Zealand A team and the Junior All Blacks who last played in the Pacific Nations Cup in 2009 have filled a similar high-performance role and have done so effectively, with a very high percentage going on to play for the All Blacks.

          "These teams have been sporadic in the past, and we believe that there is great value in making this a regular national team going forward.

          "Beyond its high-performance role, this new team also has real commercial value for NZR. It will play offshore in growing rugby markets that are of strategic and commercial importance, allowing us to showcase and grow New Zealand's brand of rugby in many more parts of the world," Cass said.

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            The problem with Gatland is his ceiling. If this is a squad to get potential ABs game time Gatland is not the guy. Yes, the next coming of David Howell who never was going to be an AB. I would take Plummer before Gatland and as Crucial mentioned put Perofeta in their for game time. I am not in the know about other potential talent out their.

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              #164

              For the benefit of NZ rugby, Perofeta has to go as the primary 10. We need to find out if he is up to the job.

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              • Crazy HorseC Crazy Horse

                For the benefit of NZ rugby, Perofeta has to go as the primary 10. We need to find out if he is up to the job.

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                #165

                @Crazy-Horse Depth at No 10 is what we really recquire at present. Wonder if there is any correlation between how our depth was when the Juniour All Blacks last played.

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                • S SBW1

                  @Crazy-Horse Depth at No 10 is what we really recquire at present. Wonder if there is any correlation between how our depth was when the Juniour All Blacks last played.

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                  Zarn Sullivan.

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                    Numia and Aumua are not doing their chances any harm with their recent form. Likewise TJ and Morgan. And Delany although I don't think he will make it. Like Morgan.

                    Lakai is maybe a bit young still

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                    • Crazy HorseC Crazy Horse

                      For the benefit of NZ rugby, Perofeta has to go as the primary 10. We need to find out if he is up to the job.

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                      @Crazy-Horse said in All Blacks XV:

                      For the benefit of NZ rugby, Perofeta has to go as the primary 10. We need to find out if he is up to the job.

                      Agree. McKenzie thankfully is showing what he's capable of for Waikato. But Perofeta needs time at first if he is to be considered a serious replacement option for the top side

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                      • WingerW Winger

                        Numia and Aumua are not doing their chances any harm with their recent form. Likewise TJ and Morgan. And Delany although I don't think he will make it. Like Morgan.

                        Lakai is maybe a bit young still

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                        @Winger said in All Blacks XV:

                        Numia and Aumua are not doing their chances any harm with their recent form.

                        Aumua might be playing his into the full EOYT squad

                        Definitely a better option than Taylor

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                        • DuluthD Duluth

                          @Winger said in All Blacks XV:

                          Numia and Aumua are not doing their chances any harm with their recent form.

                          Aumua might be playing his into the full EOYT squad

                          Definitely a better option than Taylor

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                          @Duluth If he doesn't keep planting his shoulder in opponent's faces.

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                          • StargazerS Stargazer

                            @Duluth If he doesn't keep planting his shoulder in opponent's faces.

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                            @Stargazer said in All Blacks XV:

                            @Duluth If he doesn't keep planting his shoulder in opponent's faces.

                            Agree. But surely the Wellington coaches can stop him doing this. He doesn't seem to be a dirty player, just careless

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                              @Duluth If he doesn't keep planting his shoulder in opponent's faces.

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                              @Stargazer said in All Blacks XV:

                              @Duluth If he doesn't keep planting his shoulder in opponent's faces.

                              And can bloody learn to throw. Get sick of seeing Welly get a penalty and kick to touch, only to lose the lineout.

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                              • BonesB Bones

                                @Stargazer said in All Blacks XV:

                                @Duluth If he doesn't keep planting his shoulder in opponent's faces.

                                And can bloody learn to throw. Get sick of seeing Welly get a penalty and kick to touch, only to lose the lineout.

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                                @Bones said in All Blacks XV:

                                @Stargazer said in All Blacks XV:

                                @Duluth If he doesn't keep planting his shoulder in opponent's faces.

                                And can bloody learn to throw. Get sick of seeing Welly get a penalty and kick to touch, only to lose the lineout.

                                His throwing has been good recently.

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                                • WingerW Winger

                                  @Bones said in All Blacks XV:

                                  @Stargazer said in All Blacks XV:

                                  @Duluth If he doesn't keep planting his shoulder in opponent's faces.

                                  And can bloody learn to throw. Get sick of seeing Welly get a penalty and kick to touch, only to lose the lineout.

                                  His throwing has been good recently.

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                                  @Winger said in All Blacks XV:

                                  @Bones said in All Blacks XV:

                                  @Stargazer said in All Blacks XV:

                                  @Duluth If he doesn't keep planting his shoulder in opponent's faces.

                                  And can bloody learn to throw. Get sick of seeing Welly get a penalty and kick to touch, only to lose the lineout.

                                  His throwing has been good recently.

                                  I think I turned the rugby on for the shield match and it was a lineout immediately. We lost it.

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                                  • BonesB Bones

                                    @Winger said in All Blacks XV:

                                    @Bones said in All Blacks XV:

                                    @Stargazer said in All Blacks XV:

                                    @Duluth If he doesn't keep planting his shoulder in opponent's faces.

                                    And can bloody learn to throw. Get sick of seeing Welly get a penalty and kick to touch, only to lose the lineout.

                                    His throwing has been good recently.

                                    I think I turned the rugby on for the shield match and it was a lineout immediately. We lost it.

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                                    @Bones said in All Blacks XV:

                                    @Winger said in All Blacks XV:

                                    @Bones said in All Blacks XV:

                                    @Stargazer said in All Blacks XV:

                                    @Duluth If he doesn't keep planting his shoulder in opponent's faces.

                                    And can bloody learn to throw. Get sick of seeing Welly get a penalty and kick to touch, only to lose the lineout.

                                    His throwing has been good recently.

                                    I think I turned the rugby on for the shield match and it was a lineout immediately. We lost it.

                                    So it's nothing to do with Aumua, it's you

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                                    • M Machpants

                                      @Bones said in All Blacks XV:

                                      @Winger said in All Blacks XV:

                                      @Bones said in All Blacks XV:

                                      @Stargazer said in All Blacks XV:

                                      @Duluth If he doesn't keep planting his shoulder in opponent's faces.

                                      And can bloody learn to throw. Get sick of seeing Welly get a penalty and kick to touch, only to lose the lineout.

                                      His throwing has been good recently.

                                      I think I turned the rugby on for the shield match and it was a lineout immediately. We lost it.

                                      So it's nothing to do with Aumua, it's you

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                                      Bones
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                                      @Machpants said in All Blacks XV:

                                      @Bones said in All Blacks XV:

                                      @Winger said in All Blacks XV:

                                      @Bones said in All Blacks XV:

                                      @Stargazer said in All Blacks XV:

                                      @Duluth If he doesn't keep planting his shoulder in opponent's faces.

                                      And can bloody learn to throw. Get sick of seeing Welly get a penalty and kick to touch, only to lose the lineout.

                                      His throwing has been good recently.

                                      I think I turned the rugby on for the shield match and it was a lineout immediately. We lost it.

                                      So it's nothing to do with Aumua, it's you

                                      I will be watching the ABs.

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                                      • BonesB Bones

                                        @Machpants said in All Blacks XV:

                                        @Bones said in All Blacks XV:

                                        @Winger said in All Blacks XV:

                                        @Bones said in All Blacks XV:

                                        @Stargazer said in All Blacks XV:

                                        @Duluth If he doesn't keep planting his shoulder in opponent's faces.

                                        And can bloody learn to throw. Get sick of seeing Welly get a penalty and kick to touch, only to lose the lineout.

                                        His throwing has been good recently.

                                        I think I turned the rugby on for the shield match and it was a lineout immediately. We lost it.

                                        So it's nothing to do with Aumua, it's you

                                        I will be watching the ABs.

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                                        @Bones said in All Blacks XV:

                                        @Machpants said in All Blacks XV:

                                        @Bones said in All Blacks XV:

                                        @Winger said in All Blacks XV:

                                        @Bones said in All Blacks XV:

                                        @Stargazer said in All Blacks XV:

                                        @Duluth If he doesn't keep planting his shoulder in opponent's faces.

                                        And can bloody learn to throw. Get sick of seeing Welly get a penalty and kick to touch, only to lose the lineout.

                                        His throwing has been good recently.

                                        I think I turned the rugby on for the shield match and it was a lineout immediately. We lost it.

                                        So it's nothing to do with Aumua, it's you

                                        I will be watching the ABs.

                                        Can you miss the next game, please? I'm going to that one

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                                        • M Machpants

                                          @Bones said in All Blacks XV:

                                          @Machpants said in All Blacks XV:

                                          @Bones said in All Blacks XV:

                                          @Winger said in All Blacks XV:

                                          @Bones said in All Blacks XV:

                                          @Stargazer said in All Blacks XV:

                                          @Duluth If he doesn't keep planting his shoulder in opponent's faces.

                                          And can bloody learn to throw. Get sick of seeing Welly get a penalty and kick to touch, only to lose the lineout.

                                          His throwing has been good recently.

                                          I think I turned the rugby on for the shield match and it was a lineout immediately. We lost it.

                                          So it's nothing to do with Aumua, it's you

                                          I will be watching the ABs.

                                          Can you miss the next game, please? I'm going to that one

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                                          @Machpants said in All Blacks XV:

                                          @Bones said in All Blacks XV:

                                          @Machpants said in All Blacks XV:

                                          @Bones said in All Blacks XV:

                                          @Winger said in All Blacks XV:

                                          @Bones said in All Blacks XV:

                                          @Stargazer said in All Blacks XV:

                                          @Duluth If he doesn't keep planting his shoulder in opponent's faces.

                                          And can bloody learn to throw. Get sick of seeing Welly get a penalty and kick to touch, only to lose the lineout.

                                          His throwing has been good recently.

                                          I think I turned the rugby on for the shield match and it was a lineout immediately. We lost it.

                                          So it's nothing to do with Aumua, it's you

                                          I will be watching the ABs.

                                          Can you miss the next game, please? I'm going to that one

                                          Aumua won't be.

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