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Bledisloe 2

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  • CrucialC Crucial

    @Daffy-Jaffy said in Bledisloe 2:

    Scott Barrett is probably our best performing forward according to Jase.
    Just shows that a coaches lens is different to a TV screen, eh?

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    @Crucial said in Bledisloe 2:

    @Daffy-Jaffy said in Bledisloe 2:

    Scott Barrett is probably our best performing forward according to Jase.
    Just shows that a coaches lens is different to a TV screen, eh?

    You reckon? I think there is a pretty general consensus around here that SB has surprised to the upside this season, and is locked (sorry) in to a position in the 23. I'd go further and say that I reckon 95% of posters would have him as the 3rd lock, and many would even have him in the top 2 at the moment as BBBR works his way back. Go further again, and I'd guess that there is even a significant cohort that would pick SB at 6 if the SB/BBBR duo are fit and starting.

    Aside from Sami who is clearly #1 (sorry Jase, we know you agree), what's the competition for #2? Ardie for the lovers out there, then daylight to SW I guess?

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    • voodooV voodoo

      @Crucial said in Bledisloe 2:

      @Daffy-Jaffy said in Bledisloe 2:

      Scott Barrett is probably our best performing forward according to Jase.
      Just shows that a coaches lens is different to a TV screen, eh?

      You reckon? I think there is a pretty general consensus around here that SB has surprised to the upside this season, and is locked (sorry) in to a position in the 23. I'd go further and say that I reckon 95% of posters would have him as the 3rd lock, and many would even have him in the top 2 at the moment as BBBR works his way back. Go further again, and I'd guess that there is even a significant cohort that would pick SB at 6 if the SB/BBBR duo are fit and starting.

      Aside from Sami who is clearly #1 (sorry Jase, we know you agree), what's the competition for #2? Ardie for the lovers out there, then daylight to SW I guess?

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      @voodoo said in Bledisloe 2:

      @Crucial said in Bledisloe 2:

      @Daffy-Jaffy said in Bledisloe 2:

      Scott Barrett is probably our best performing forward according to Jase.
      Just shows that a coaches lens is different to a TV screen, eh?

      You reckon? I think there is a pretty general consensus around here that SB has surprised to the upside this season, and is locked (sorry) in to a position in the 23. I'd go further and say that I reckon 95% of posters would have him as the 3rd lock, and many would even have him in the top 2 at the moment as BBBR works his way back. Go further again, and I'd guess that there is even a significant cohort that would pick SB at 6 if the SB/BBBR duo are fit and starting.

      Aside from Sami who is clearly #1 (sorry Jase, we know you agree), what's the competition for #2? Ardie for the lovers out there, then daylight to SW I guess?

      Yup, maybe we don't see him as the best,as a fern collective, but he's top 3!

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      15 S Barrett
      12 R Ioane
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      • voodooV voodoo

        @Crucial said in Bledisloe 2:

        @Daffy-Jaffy said in Bledisloe 2:

        Scott Barrett is probably our best performing forward according to Jase.
        Just shows that a coaches lens is different to a TV screen, eh?

        You reckon? I think there is a pretty general consensus around here that SB has surprised to the upside this season, and is locked (sorry) in to a position in the 23. I'd go further and say that I reckon 95% of posters would have him as the 3rd lock, and many would even have him in the top 2 at the moment as BBBR works his way back. Go further again, and I'd guess that there is even a significant cohort that would pick SB at 6 if the SB/BBBR duo are fit and starting.

        Aside from Sami who is clearly #1 (sorry Jase, we know you agree), what's the competition for #2? Ardie for the lovers out there, then daylight to SW I guess?

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        @voodoo I was going of the posts from the last game saying he was ineffective.

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        • CrucialC Crucial

          @Daffy-Jaffy said in Bledisloe 2:

          Scott Barrett is probably our best performing forward according to Jase.
          Just shows that a coaches lens is different to a TV screen, eh?

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          @Crucial said in Bledisloe 2:

          @Daffy-Jaffy said in Bledisloe 2:

          Scott Barrett is probably our best performing forward according to Jase.
          Just shows that a coaches lens is different to a TV screen, eh?

          I dont want to get into any debates over which position he should play πŸ™‚ but has a fucken big motor , no doubting that .

          I kind of get them wanting him out there for 80 mins .

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            https://www.stuff.co.nz/sport/rugby/all-blacks/129937661/wallaby-darcy-swain-gets-judiciary-date-after-ugly-quinn-tupaea-incident--and-a-long-ban-is-possible

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            • CrucialC Crucial

              @voodoo I was going of the posts from the last game saying he was ineffective.

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              @Crucial said in Bledisloe 2:

              @voodoo I was going of the posts from the last game saying he was ineffective.

              as a 6. Most on here would have him in top 2 locks now I suspect.
              I thought I heard Brodie say before the match that SB called the lineout strategy and probably would even from 6 and given the lineouts have improved over the year (?) it makes sense that Jason Ryan rates him highly (at least as lock)...but yes on listening to Ryan he highly rates him at 6 too. I'm also surprised a little, didn't notice him that much during the game..maybe he was doing all the dirty work...

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              • KiwiwombleK Kiwiwomble

                @Crucial no, i would say very very few people actually think...im going to injury this guy

                I have always just seen a difference between

                "im going to tackle this knee"

                and

                "im watching the ball....watching...watching...of shit where did you come from?"

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                @Kiwiwomble said in Bledisloe 2:

                @Crucial no, i would say very very few people actually think...im going to injury this guy

                I have always just seen a difference between

                "im going to tackle this knee"

                and

                "im watching the ball....watching...watching...of shit where did you come from?"

                That guy jumping in the air you talk about is doing it deliberately without care.

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                • BonesB Bones

                  @Kiwiwomble said in Bledisloe 2:

                  @Crucial no, i would say very very few people actually think...im going to injury this guy

                  I have always just seen a difference between

                  "im going to tackle this knee"

                  and

                  "im watching the ball....watching...watching...of shit where did you come from?"

                  That guy jumping in the air you talk about is doing it deliberately without care.

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                  @Bones and i see that as different to someone that sees a knee and still decides to tackle said knee....not without any responsibility...but different to the later for me

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                  • KiwiwombleK Kiwiwomble

                    @Bones and i see that as different to someone that sees a knee and still decides to tackle said knee....not without any responsibility...but different to the later for me

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                    @Kiwiwomble said in Bledisloe 2:

                    @Bones and i see that as different to someone that sees a knee and still decides to tackle said knee....not without any responsibility...but different to the later for me

                    I don't. You know others are going to be competing for the ball, pretending they don't exist is the same as seeing a knee and still driving.

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                    • BonesB Bones

                      @Kiwiwomble said in Bledisloe 2:

                      @Crucial no, i would say very very few people actually think...im going to injury this guy

                      I have always just seen a difference between

                      "im going to tackle this knee"

                      and

                      "im watching the ball....watching...watching...of shit where did you come from?"

                      That guy jumping in the air you talk about is doing it deliberately without care.

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                      @Bones said in Bledisloe 2:

                      @Kiwiwomble said in Bledisloe 2:

                      @Crucial no, i would say very very few people actually think...im going to injury this guy

                      I have always just seen a difference between

                      "im going to tackle this knee"

                      and

                      "im watching the ball....watching...watching...of shit where did you come from?"

                      That guy jumping in the air you talk about is doing it deliberately without care.

                      These guys are the best in the business. They know exactly what they are doing

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                      • BonesB Bones

                        @Kiwiwomble said in Bledisloe 2:

                        @Bones and i see that as different to someone that sees a knee and still decides to tackle said knee....not without any responsibility...but different to the later for me

                        I don't. You know others are going to be competing for the ball, pretending they don't exist is the same as seeing a knee and still driving.

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                        @Bones ok

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                        • KiwiwombleK Kiwiwomble

                          @Bones ok

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                          @Kiwiwomble said in Bledisloe 2:

                          @Bones ok

                          Being a coach I hope you're not teaching guys that they can just pretend they were only looking at the ball and they can get away with anything...

                          Maybe Swain only saw the ball and not QT.

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                          • BonesB Bones

                            @Kiwiwomble said in Bledisloe 2:

                            @Bones ok

                            Being a coach I hope you're not teaching guys that they can just pretend they were only looking at the ball and they can get away with anything...

                            Maybe Swain only saw the ball and not QT.

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                            @Bones thats not what i said

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                            • KiwiwombleK Kiwiwomble

                              @Bones thats not what i said

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                              Bones
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                              @Kiwiwomble said in Bledisloe 2:

                              @Bones thats not what i said

                              ok

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                              • canefanC canefan

                                @Bones said in Bledisloe 2:

                                @Kiwiwomble said in Bledisloe 2:

                                @Crucial no, i would say very very few people actually think...im going to injury this guy

                                I have always just seen a difference between

                                "im going to tackle this knee"

                                and

                                "im watching the ball....watching...watching...of shit where did you come from?"

                                That guy jumping in the air you talk about is doing it deliberately without care.

                                These guys are the best in the business. They know exactly what they are doing

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                                @canefan said in Bledisloe 2:

                                @Bones said in Bledisloe 2:

                                @Kiwiwomble said in Bledisloe 2:

                                @Crucial no, i would say very very few people actually think...im going to injury this guy

                                I have always just seen a difference between

                                "im going to tackle this knee"

                                and

                                "im watching the ball....watching...watching...of shit where did you come from?"

                                That guy jumping in the air you talk about is doing it deliberately without care.

                                These guys are the best in the business. They know exactly what they are doing

                                For a moment there I thought you were talking about the judiciary πŸ˜…

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                                • CrucialC Crucial

                                  @canefan said in Bledisloe 2:

                                  @Bones said in Bledisloe 2:

                                  @Kiwiwomble said in Bledisloe 2:

                                  @Crucial no, i would say very very few people actually think...im going to injury this guy

                                  I have always just seen a difference between

                                  "im going to tackle this knee"

                                  and

                                  "im watching the ball....watching...watching...of shit where did you come from?"

                                  That guy jumping in the air you talk about is doing it deliberately without care.

                                  These guys are the best in the business. They know exactly what they are doing

                                  For a moment there I thought you were talking about the judiciary πŸ˜…

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                                  #131

                                  @Crucial said in Bledisloe 2:

                                  @canefan said in Bledisloe 2:

                                  @Bones said in Bledisloe 2:

                                  @Kiwiwomble said in Bledisloe 2:

                                  @Crucial no, i would say very very few people actually think...im going to injury this guy

                                  I have always just seen a difference between

                                  "im going to tackle this knee"

                                  and

                                  "im watching the ball....watching...watching...of shit where did you come from?"

                                  That guy jumping in the air you talk about is doing it deliberately without care.

                                  These guys are the best in the business. They know exactly what they are doing

                                  For a moment there I thought you were talking about the judiciary πŸ˜…

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                                    @Crucial said in Bledisloe 2:

                                    @canefan said in Bledisloe 2:

                                    @Bones said in Bledisloe 2:

                                    @Kiwiwomble said in Bledisloe 2:

                                    @Crucial no, i would say very very few people actually think...im going to injury this guy

                                    I have always just seen a difference between

                                    "im going to tackle this knee"

                                    and

                                    "im watching the ball....watching...watching...of shit where did you come from?"

                                    That guy jumping in the air you talk about is doing it deliberately without care.

                                    These guys are the best in the business. They know exactly what they are doing

                                    For a moment there I thought you were talking about the judiciary πŸ˜…

                                    alt text

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                                    @Machpants That's a misconception that keeps on popping up. The Judiciary is not a lottery at all. The officiating is, and whether someone is cited maybe, too, but the Regulations and how they are applied are quite clear.

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                                    • StargazerS Stargazer

                                      @Machpants That's a misconception that keeps on popping up. The Judiciary is not a lottery at all. The officiating is, and whether someone is cited maybe, too, but the Regulations and how they are applied are quite clear.

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                                      @Stargazer said in Bledisloe 2:

                                      @Machpants That's a misconception that keeps on popping up. The Judiciary is not a lottery at all. The officiating is, but the Regulations and how they are applied are quite clear.

                                      Riiiiiiiiight. BBBR broken cheek and an upended Beaudy says you're talking arse

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                                      • M Machpants

                                        @Stargazer said in Bledisloe 2:

                                        @Machpants That's a misconception that keeps on popping up. The Judiciary is not a lottery at all. The officiating is, but the Regulations and how they are applied are quite clear.

                                        Riiiiiiiiight. BBBR broken cheek and an upended Beaudy says you're talking arse

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                                        @Machpants BBBR = the Irishman got yellow. Never reached the Judiciary.

                                        The decision and 4-week suspension of Arendse was entirely predictable and totally consistent with the Regulations and how they are consistently applied.

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                                        • StargazerS Stargazer

                                          @Machpants That's a misconception that keeps on popping up. The Judiciary is not a lottery at all. The officiating is, and whether someone is cited maybe, too, but the Regulations and how they are applied are quite clear.

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                                          @Stargazer said in Bledisloe 2:

                                          @Machpants That's a misconception that keeps on popping up. The Judiciary is not a lottery at all. The officiating is, and whether someone is cited maybe, too, but the Regulations and how they are applied are quite clear.

                                          Up to the point where they pull some shit out about the player telling his mum how much shame he feels so we will reduce the regulated ban.
                                          Start points are also totally at the panel discretion.

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