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Bledisloe 2

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  • StargazerS Stargazer

    @Crucial

    Referee: Andrew Brace (IRFU)
    Assistant Referee 1: Mathieu Raynal (FFR)
    Assistant Referee 2: Pierre Brousset (FFR)
    TMO: Ben Whitehouse (WRU)

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    @Stargazer said in Bledisloe 2:

    @Crucial

    Referee: Andrew Brace (IRFU)
    Assistant Referee 1: Mathieu Raynal (FFR)
    Assistant Referee 2: Pierre Brousset (FFR)
    TMO: Ben Whitehouse (WRU)

    Just googled and realised he is another one of these refs that WR rate highly but is prone to controversial performances in big games.
    Yippee.

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      Interesting that the stand down period for a failed HIA is 7 days. So technically Havili is available for Saturday. Not sure about that as realistically someone with concussion symptoms should only be on light training duties during the week but I'll guess we'll find out.

      Cane I think will play. I don't think it was a heavy knock and it's the same situation as with Sexton from the first to second test.

      If both are deemed fit then we might see the only change being Savea into 8 and Reece (or RTS) onto the bench. Maybe Ofa for Newell.

      I'd be happy with that. There was genuine periods of dominance in the first test, and if not for lapses in concentration it should have been a comfortable BP victory.

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      • StargazerS Stargazer

        @Crucial

        Referee: Andrew Brace (IRFU)
        Assistant Referee 1: Mathieu Raynal (FFR)
        Assistant Referee 2: Pierre Brousset (FFR)
        TMO: Ben Whitehouse (WRU)

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        @Stargazer said in Bledisloe 2:

        @Crucial

        Referee: Andrew Brace (IRFU)
        Assistant Referee 1: Mathieu Raynal (FFR)
        Assistant Referee 2: Pierre Brousset (FFR)
        TMO: Ben Whitehouse (WRU)

        Raynal running the touch. Reckon he might get a few words from the aussies

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          @Stargazer said in Bledisloe 2:

          @Crucial

          Referee: Andrew Brace (IRFU)
          Assistant Referee 1: Mathieu Raynal (FFR)
          Assistant Referee 2: Pierre Brousset (FFR)
          TMO: Ben Whitehouse (WRU)

          Raynal running the touch. Reckon he might get a few words from the aussies

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          @JK said in Bledisloe 2:

          @Stargazer said in Bledisloe 2:

          @Crucial

          Referee: Andrew Brace (IRFU)
          Assistant Referee 1: Mathieu Raynal (FFR)
          Assistant Referee 2: Pierre Brousset (FFR)
          TMO: Ben Whitehouse (WRU)

          Raynal running the touch. Reckon he might get a few words from the aussies

          And a nice round of applause from the EP crowd 😇

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          • F Frye

            Interesting that the stand down period for a failed HIA is 7 days. So technically Havili is available for Saturday. Not sure about that as realistically someone with concussion symptoms should only be on light training duties during the week but I'll guess we'll find out.

            Cane I think will play. I don't think it was a heavy knock and it's the same situation as with Sexton from the first to second test.

            If both are deemed fit then we might see the only change being Savea into 8 and Reece (or RTS) onto the bench. Maybe Ofa for Newell.

            I'd be happy with that. There was genuine periods of dominance in the first test, and if not for lapses in concentration it should have been a comfortable BP victory.

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            @Frye said in Bledisloe 2:

            Interesting that the stand down period for a failed HIA is 7 days. So technically Havili is available for Saturday. Not sure about that as realistically someone with concussion symptoms should only be on light training duties during the week but I'll guess we'll find out.

            That is so out of line with the NZR rugby guidelines. If you even complain of a headache two days after a possible concussion you are on a 21 day stand down with light training only happening toward the latter part of that.
            Apparently test players grow stronger brains?

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            • ACT CrusaderA ACT Crusader

              @Daffy-Jaffy said in Bledisloe 2:

              @booboo I think every time the Wallaby's are awarded a kick the crowd should just count out the seconds until the kick and then cheer when it is taken.

              You’re just mean bro, and I love it.

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              @ACT-Crusader said in Bledisloe 2:

              @Daffy-Jaffy said in Bledisloe 2:

              @booboo I think every time the Wallaby's are awarded a kick the crowd should just count out the seconds until the kick and then cheer when it is taken.

              You’re just mean bro, and I love it.

              Would be bloody funny. Even just chants of 'hurry up' would be good.

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              • CrucialC Crucial

                @ACT-Crusader said in Bledisloe 2:

                @Daffy-Jaffy said in Bledisloe 2:

                @booboo I think every time the Wallaby's are awarded a kick the crowd should just count out the seconds until the kick and then cheer when it is taken.

                You’re just mean bro, and I love it.

                Would be bloody funny. Even just chants of 'hurry up' would be good.

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                @Crucial said in Bledisloe 2:

                @ACT-Crusader said in Bledisloe 2:

                @Daffy-Jaffy said in Bledisloe 2:

                @booboo I think every time the Wallaby's are awarded a kick the crowd should just count out the seconds until the kick and then cheer when it is taken.

                You’re just mean bro, and I love it.

                Would be bloody funny. Even just chants of 'hurry up' would be good.

                Just give Foley a countdown from about 30 every time he has a penalty kick to touch

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                • canefanC canefan

                  @Crucial said in Bledisloe 2:

                  @ACT-Crusader said in Bledisloe 2:

                  @Daffy-Jaffy said in Bledisloe 2:

                  @booboo I think every time the Wallaby's are awarded a kick the crowd should just count out the seconds until the kick and then cheer when it is taken.

                  You’re just mean bro, and I love it.

                  Would be bloody funny. Even just chants of 'hurry up' would be good.

                  Just give Foley a countdown from about 30 every time he has a penalty kick to touch

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                  @canefan said in Bledisloe 2:

                  @Crucial said in Bledisloe 2:

                  @ACT-Crusader said in Bledisloe 2:

                  @Daffy-Jaffy said in Bledisloe 2:

                  @booboo I think every time the Wallaby's are awarded a kick the crowd should just count out the seconds until the kick and then cheer when it is taken.

                  You’re just mean bro, and I love it.

                  Would be bloody funny. Even just chants of 'hurry up' would be good.

                  Just give Foley a countdown from about 30 every time he has a penalty kick to touch

                  30? 20 is more than enough. 10 to make a point.

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                  • CrucialC Crucial

                    @ACT-Crusader said in Bledisloe 2:

                    @Daffy-Jaffy said in Bledisloe 2:

                    @booboo I think every time the Wallaby's are awarded a kick the crowd should just count out the seconds until the kick and then cheer when it is taken.

                    You’re just mean bro, and I love it.

                    Would be bloody funny. Even just chants of 'hurry up' would be good.

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                    @Crucial said in Bledisloe 2:

                    @ACT-Crusader said in Bledisloe 2:

                    @Daffy-Jaffy said in Bledisloe 2:

                    @booboo I think every time the Wallaby's are awarded a kick the crowd should just count out the seconds until the kick and then cheer when it is taken.

                    You’re just mean bro, and I love it.

                    Would be bloody funny. Even just chants of 'hurry up' would be good.

                    hopefully every time he touches the ball

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                    • CrucialC Crucial

                      @canefan said in Bledisloe 2:

                      @Crucial said in Bledisloe 2:

                      @ACT-Crusader said in Bledisloe 2:

                      @Daffy-Jaffy said in Bledisloe 2:

                      @booboo I think every time the Wallaby's are awarded a kick the crowd should just count out the seconds until the kick and then cheer when it is taken.

                      You’re just mean bro, and I love it.

                      Would be bloody funny. Even just chants of 'hurry up' would be good.

                      Just give Foley a countdown from about 30 every time he has a penalty kick to touch

                      30? 20 is more than enough. 10 to make a point.

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                      #179

                      @Crucial said in Bledisloe 2:

                      @canefan said in Bledisloe 2:

                      @Crucial said in Bledisloe 2:

                      @ACT-Crusader said in Bledisloe 2:

                      @Daffy-Jaffy said in Bledisloe 2:

                      @booboo I think every time the Wallaby's are awarded a kick the crowd should just count out the seconds until the kick and then cheer when it is taken.

                      You’re just mean bro, and I love it.

                      Would be bloody funny. Even just chants of 'hurry up' would be good.

                      Just give Foley a countdown from about 30 every time he has a penalty kick to touch

                      30? 20 is more than enough. 10 to make a point.

                      Yeah but he clearly feels he needs at least 30..... 😉

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                        Listened to a bit of SENZ Simthy talking to I Cristy Doran from Fox (think Monday?).

                        He seems convinced WR are going to back down and apologise. Just stated it as a fact.

                        Seems reflective of the Aussie sentiment.

                        I'm pretty sure WR is going to back the ref.

                        Will add to my enjoyment of the meltdown

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                        @booboo said in Bledisloe 2:

                        Listened to a bit of SENZ Simthy talking to I Cristy Doran from Fox (think Monday?).
                        He seems convinced WR are going to back down and apologise. Just stated it as a fact.

                        Christy Doran- girl's name BTW - is a fucking Fox stooge who was perfectly happy to write articles devaluing the game here in the lead up to negotiations.

                        Either s/he knows fuck all about rugby, or is doing a great job pretending to...

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                          Having seen a little of Andrew Brace, my assessment: one of those over-officious refs who manages to miss the really big stuff.

                          With two French ARs and a Welsh TMO it'll be a case of putting your punch card into the Randomiser and seeing what comes out...

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                            @booboo said in Bledisloe 2:

                            Listened to a bit of SENZ Simthy talking to I Cristy Doran from Fox (think Monday?).
                            He seems convinced WR are going to back down and apologise. Just stated it as a fact.

                            Christy Doran- girl's name BTW - is a fucking Fox stooge who was perfectly happy to write articles devaluing the game here in the lead up to negotiations.

                            Either s/he knows fuck all about rugby, or is doing a great job pretending to...

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                            • CrucialC Crucial

                              @Frye said in Bledisloe 2:

                              Interesting that the stand down period for a failed HIA is 7 days. So technically Havili is available for Saturday. Not sure about that as realistically someone with concussion symptoms should only be on light training duties during the week but I'll guess we'll find out.

                              That is so out of line with the NZR rugby guidelines. If you even complain of a headache two days after a possible concussion you are on a 21 day stand down with light training only happening toward the latter part of that.
                              Apparently test players grow stronger brains?

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                              @Crucial said in Bledisloe 2:

                              @Frye said in Bledisloe 2:

                              Interesting that the stand down period for a failed HIA is 7 days. So technically Havili is available for Saturday. Not sure about that as realistically someone with concussion symptoms should only be on light training duties during the week but I'll guess we'll find out.

                              That is so out of line with the NZR rugby guidelines. If you even complain of a headache two days after a possible concussion you are on a 21 day stand down with light training only happening toward the latter part of that.
                              Apparently test players grow stronger brains?

                              In theory, Test players have access to proper specialists who can assess effects on them. Amateurs get the extra low risk version with the longer stand down.

                              But, yeah.

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                                @Crucial said in Bledisloe 2:

                                @Frye said in Bledisloe 2:

                                Interesting that the stand down period for a failed HIA is 7 days. So technically Havili is available for Saturday. Not sure about that as realistically someone with concussion symptoms should only be on light training duties during the week but I'll guess we'll find out.

                                That is so out of line with the NZR rugby guidelines. If you even complain of a headache two days after a possible concussion you are on a 21 day stand down with light training only happening toward the latter part of that.
                                Apparently test players grow stronger brains?

                                In theory, Test players have access to proper specialists who can assess effects on them. Amateurs get the extra low risk version with the longer stand down.

                                But, yeah.

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                                @nzzp said in Bledisloe 2:

                                @Crucial said in Bledisloe 2:

                                @Frye said in Bledisloe 2:

                                Interesting that the stand down period for a failed HIA is 7 days. So technically Havili is available for Saturday. Not sure about that as realistically someone with concussion symptoms should only be on light training duties during the week but I'll guess we'll find out.

                                That is so out of line with the NZR rugby guidelines. If you even complain of a headache two days after a possible concussion you are on a 21 day stand down with light training only happening toward the latter part of that.
                                Apparently test players grow stronger brains?

                                In theory, Test players have access to proper specialists who can assess effects on them. Amateurs get the extra low risk version with the longer stand down.

                                But, yeah.

                                They still get baselined and go to specialists for assessment. Maybe there are special specialists? 😉

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                                  Havili and Cane don't appear in any of the photos of training that I've seen this week.

                                  RTS, Jacobson, Perofeta, Reece, Vaa'i, Ardie, Akira, Ennor, Frizell etc all do, so I expect some of them in the 23, but not Cane and Havili.

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                                    Havili and Cane don't appear in any of the photos of training that I've seen this week.

                                    RTS, Jacobson, Perofeta, Reece, Vaa'i, Ardie, Akira, Ennor, Frizell etc all do, so I expect some of them in the 23, but not Cane and Havili.

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                                    bayimports
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                                    @Stargazer said in Bledisloe 2:

                                    Havili and Cane don't appear in any of the photos of training that I've seen this week.

                                    RTS, Jacobson, Perofeta, Reece, Vaa'i, Ardie, Akira, Ennor, Frizell etc all do, so I expect some of them in the 23, but not Cane and Havili.

                                    There was an article from Hinton yesterday that alluded to Havili not far off, but Cane unlikely.. of course that could still mean both out, but Cane looks long odds for sure

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                                      i mean, havili's has a good run of games at 12, wouldn't hurt to give him a week

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                                      • B bayimports

                                        @Stargazer said in Bledisloe 2:

                                        Havili and Cane don't appear in any of the photos of training that I've seen this week.

                                        RTS, Jacobson, Perofeta, Reece, Vaa'i, Ardie, Akira, Ennor, Frizell etc all do, so I expect some of them in the 23, but not Cane and Havili.

                                        There was an article from Hinton yesterday that alluded to Havili not far off, but Cane unlikely.. of course that could still mean both out, but Cane looks long odds for sure

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                                        @bayimports said in Bledisloe 2:

                                        @Stargazer said in Bledisloe 2:

                                        Havili and Cane don't appear in any of the photos of training that I've seen this week.

                                        RTS, Jacobson, Perofeta, Reece, Vaa'i, Ardie, Akira, Ennor, Frizell etc all do, so I expect some of them in the 23, but not Cane and Havili.

                                        There was an article from Hinton yesterday that alluded to Havili not far off, but Cane unlikely.. of course that could still mean both out, but Cane looks long odds for sure

                                        That was guesswork from Hinton about Cane based on his history. He assumed that more care would be taken.

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                                        • CrucialC Crucial

                                          @bayimports said in Bledisloe 2:

                                          @Stargazer said in Bledisloe 2:

                                          Havili and Cane don't appear in any of the photos of training that I've seen this week.

                                          RTS, Jacobson, Perofeta, Reece, Vaa'i, Ardie, Akira, Ennor, Frizell etc all do, so I expect some of them in the 23, but not Cane and Havili.

                                          There was an article from Hinton yesterday that alluded to Havili not far off, but Cane unlikely.. of course that could still mean both out, but Cane looks long odds for sure

                                          That was guesswork from Hinton about Cane based on his history. He assumed that more care would be taken.

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                                          bayimports
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                                          @Crucial said in Bledisloe 2:

                                          @bayimports said in Bledisloe 2:

                                          @Stargazer said in Bledisloe 2:

                                          Havili and Cane don't appear in any of the photos of training that I've seen this week.

                                          RTS, Jacobson, Perofeta, Reece, Vaa'i, Ardie, Akira, Ennor, Frizell etc all do, so I expect some of them in the 23, but not Cane and Havili.

                                          There was an article from Hinton yesterday that alluded to Havili not far off, but Cane unlikely.. of course that could still mean both out, but Cane looks long odds for sure

                                          That was guesswork from Hinton about Cane based on his history. He assumed that more care would be taken.

                                          Sure its guesswork be he also made the same point as @Stargazer about who he had seen at training. Cane was still in his track pants for the skill units at the finish of Tuesday training. Media kept out of main session.

                                          I don't think its an unreasonable guess and why I agree with @Stargazer , I'm also picking he wont play (my guess)

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