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Blindside

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  • nostrildamusN nostrildamus

    @Bones said in Blindside:

    @broughie said in Blindside:

    @nostrildamus I agree. He is not physical enough. Some of those missed tackles were poor. Some of our skill losses maybe should park themselves at second five.

    I didn't even notice him missing tackles.

    Everyone knew he was going to be rusty as fuck before he even played, but he still gets lambasted for being rusty.

    2 missed tackles according to ESPN https://www.espn.com/rugby/playerstats?gameId=595490&league=244293 and I don't trust it but that sounds right.
    Personally I can understand he wasn't physically ready for test rugby but that doesn't explain the kick. He did some other good things though and arguably distributes and links better than Ardie <excuse me while I put on a Wellington flame-resistant suit>...

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    @nostrildamus ESPN stats are fine; it's Rugbypass' stats that are dodgy.

    The SANZAAR stats also say he made 9 tackles and missed 2.

    https://super.rugby/therugbychampionship/match-centre/?season=2023&competition=214&match=931239

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    • nostrildamusN nostrildamus

      @Bones said in Blindside:

      @broughie said in Blindside:

      @nostrildamus I agree. He is not physical enough. Some of those missed tackles were poor. Some of our skill losses maybe should park themselves at second five.

      I didn't even notice him missing tackles.

      Everyone knew he was going to be rusty as fuck before he even played, but he still gets lambasted for being rusty.

      2 missed tackles according to ESPN https://www.espn.com/rugby/playerstats?gameId=595490&league=244293 and I don't trust it but that sounds right.
      Personally I can understand he wasn't physically ready for test rugby but that doesn't explain the kick. He did some other good things though and arguably distributes and links better than Ardie <excuse me while I put on a Wellington flame-resistant suit>...

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      @nostrildamus the kick is unforgivable. Everything else I can give a lot of leeway.

      Oh and we don't sell those in Wellington.

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      • BonesB Bones

        @nostrildamus the kick is unforgivable. Everything else I can give a lot of leeway.

        Oh and we don't sell those in Wellington.

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        @Bones said in Blindside:

        @nostrildamus the kick is unforgivable. Everything else I can give a lot of leeway.

        Oh and we don't sell those in Wellington.

        I think you can buy one from Blackwoods Newtown store..

        but I meant Wellington/Canes-proof, I dare not compare St Ardie to others when a certain Canes supporter (not you) is around..

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        • Canes4lifeC Canes4life

          Caleb Delany has been fantastic for Wellington this year. I’d also like to see Cullen Grace at 6 at some point.

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          @Canes4life said in Blindside:

          Caleb Delany has been fantastic for Wellington this year. I’d also like to see Cullen Grace at 6 at some point.

          I am not totally convinced. Yes, he has been very dynamic for the Canes this year, but he is a bit too lean for a blindside at the highest level where he would face big munters. I must admit I haven't watched many Wellington NPC games but I found him pretty anonymous vs Otago. In that game, the dominant "6" was Sean Withy who is more an openside than a blindside LF, IMO.

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            One of the missed tackles would have been on Foley (the forward pass try) which was a poor effort - the other one may have been when he missed Koroibete who was running sideways and taken by Samisoni.

            Otherwise he was plenty physical though - may some good strong carries and counter-rucked leading to the turnover for Samisoni's try.

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            • C cgrant

              @Canes4life said in Blindside:

              Caleb Delany has been fantastic for Wellington this year. I’d also like to see Cullen Grace at 6 at some point.

              I am not totally convinced. Yes, he has been very dynamic for the Canes this year, but he is a bit too lean for a blindside at the highest level where he would face big munters. I must admit I haven't watched many Wellington NPC games but I found him pretty anonymous vs Otago. In that game, the dominant "6" was Sean Withy who is more an openside than a blindside LF, IMO.

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              @cgrant said in Blindside:

              @Canes4life said in Blindside:

              Caleb Delany has been fantastic for Wellington this year. I’d also like to see Cullen Grace at 6 at some point.

              I am not totally convinced. Yes, he has been very dynamic for the Canes this year, but he is a bit too lean for a blindside at the highest level where he would face big munters. I must admit I haven't watched many Wellington NPC games but I found him pretty anonymous vs Otago. In that game, the dominant "6" was Sean Withy who is more an openside than a blindside LF, IMO.

              He was a lot leaner last year but to me he’s put on a bit of beef and has been fairly dominant in both the carry and tackle in this years NPC. Delany, Lakai and Aumua have clearly been Wellington’s standout forwards this year. I definitely think he’s a better 6 than lock and I hope he continues to develop his game. Seems like a smart operator / communicator aswell which is a bonus.

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              • KiwiMurphK KiwiMurph

                One of the missed tackles would have been on Foley (the forward pass try) which was a poor effort - the other one may have been when he missed Koroibete who was running sideways and taken by Samisoni.

                Otherwise he was plenty physical though - may some good strong carries and counter-rucked leading to the turnover for Samisoni's try.

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                @KiwiMurph said in Blindside:

                One of the missed tackles would have been on Foley (the forward pass try) which was a poor effort - the other one may have been when he missed Koroibete who was running sideways and taken by Samisoni.

                Otherwise he was plenty physical though - may some good strong carries and counter-rucked leading to the turnover for Samisoni's try.

                Sami T gets as much shit for that try as anyone (though Fern favs never cop too much heat)

                Foley steps inside, and should have been straight in to Sami's shoulder. Sami cuddles him, and old man foley makes the miracle offload.

                Poor shit all round really

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                • mariner4lifeM mariner4life

                  @KiwiMurph said in Blindside:

                  One of the missed tackles would have been on Foley (the forward pass try) which was a poor effort - the other one may have been when he missed Koroibete who was running sideways and taken by Samisoni.

                  Otherwise he was plenty physical though - may some good strong carries and counter-rucked leading to the turnover for Samisoni's try.

                  Sami T gets as much shit for that try as anyone (though Fern favs never cop too much heat)

                  Foley steps inside, and should have been straight in to Sami's shoulder. Sami cuddles him, and old man foley makes the miracle offload.

                  Poor shit all round really

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                  @mariner4life Jeff Wilson will be wondering about the lack of fuss over Sami losing the ball over the line whilst being tackled by a halfback! 🙂

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                    Those stats tell me that Will Jordan would have topped the tackle stats if he had not missed 5 of them

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                    • CrucialC Crucial

                      Those stats tell me that Will Jordan would have topped the tackle stats if he had not missed 5 of them

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                      @Crucial said in Blindside:

                      Those stats tell me that Will Jordan would have topped the tackle stats if he had not missed 5 of them

                      Unlike Clarke he's normally at least in a position to attempt the tackle

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                      • M Machpants

                        @Crucial said in Blindside:

                        Those stats tell me that Will Jordan would have topped the tackle stats if he had not missed 5 of them

                        Unlike Clarke he's normally at least in a position to attempt the tackle

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                        @Machpants said in Blindside:

                        @Crucial said in Blindside:

                        Those stats tell me that Will Jordan would have topped the tackle stats if he had not missed 5 of them

                        Unlike Clarke he's normally at least in a position to attempt the tackle

                        And that's better? Same result. 5/13 made is terrible yet some want him as last line and sweeper?

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                        • M Machpants

                          @Crucial said in Blindside:

                          Those stats tell me that Will Jordan would have topped the tackle stats if he had not missed 5 of them

                          Unlike Clarke he's normally at least in a position to attempt the tackle

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                          @Machpants said in Blindside:

                          @Crucial said in Blindside:

                          Those stats tell me that Will Jordan would have topped the tackle stats if he had not missed 5 of them

                          Unlike Clarke he's normally at least in a position to attempt the tackle

                          He's often in a position to contest kicks too! But looks like he takes the same attitude to that as he does to tackling.

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