Star Wars VII ****contains spoilers****
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Episode one out of the way.
Nothing but English and Scottish supporting actors. Feels like a UK soap.
The chick is hot.
Andor is ok enough as a main character.
I have no idea what the plot is yet.
Fuck all action. Strange flashbacks.
Despite the odd Droid and Alien walking around this doesn’t feel like Star Wars. AT ALL.
Everything I feared about this show seems to have come to fruition, maybe my sons are right to avoid it.
Sigh, onto the next one, I hope to fuck it improves.
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@MN5 yeah, definitely a slow build
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@Kiwiwomble said in Star Wars VII ****contains spoilers****:
@MN5 yeah, definitely a slow build
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Why the fuck do they care so much about two dead troops ?
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Still watching ep 2…production value is better than BoBF at least and we’re not on tattoine
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@Kiwiwomble said in Star Wars VII ****contains spoilers****:
Still watching ep 2…production value is better than BoBF at least and we’re not on tattoine
I’m not sure either of these things are saving it. Christ on a bike it’s shite so far.
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I’m in, even the wife was “one more?”….every different story to your usual Star Wars…just set in the same universe, so far what I had heard it would be, much more of a slow Cold War vibe spy/thriller deal…where you’re not 100% sure what’s going on but I expect a reveal towards the end
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@Kiwiwomble said in Star Wars VII ****contains spoilers****:
I’m in, even the wife was “one more?”….every different story to your usual Star Wars…just set in the same universe, so far what I had heard it would be, much more of a slow Cold War vibe spy/thriller deal…where you’re not 100% sure what’s going on but I expect a reveal towards the end
Ok I have to confess that episode was pretty decent.
Refreshing to see fighting on a more even keel as opposed to Fett/Mando/Fennic/Bo Katan/Cara Dune or whoever effortlessly mowing down hordes of enemies.
That’s something that’s plagued recent shows…..even Han and Luke didn’t kick arse in ridiculous ways like they do.
Also fairly sure that’s the first swearing anyone has ever heard in Star Wars.
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Loved it.
Yep it’s not trying to appeal to kids (or big kids) at all but they have been saying this is meant to be a more adult show.
Definitely had Rogue One vides by the end of Ep 3.
I’m just taking it as a story in a galaxy far far away. One that we have some familiarity with.
Some cool ships and stuff too.Great setup and maybe now we get some missions.
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Yeah, ep 3 is where is really starts to settle into what it’s going to be
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@MN5 said in Star Wars VII ****contains spoilers****:
They essentially started with the boring stuff at the start which is often dangerous in a show
If it wasn’t SW I probably woulda given up to be honest but there’s enough there to keep me interested now.
It was really a pilot split up as 3 eps. Can see why it was all released together.
I reckon it is very promising. The origin stuff is out of the way. I liked the way it didn't try too hard to be SW. No Stormtroopers, lightsabers, big baddies...yet. Just a proper story. This showrunner would have done a pretty good Obi-Wan I reckon although the trad SW does work with campness and pace better. -
@Crucial said in Star Wars VII ****contains spoilers****:
@MN5 said in Star Wars VII ****contains spoilers****:
They essentially started with the boring stuff at the start which is often dangerous in a show
If it wasn’t SW I probably woulda given up to be honest but there’s enough there to keep me interested now.
It was really a pilot split up as 3 eps. Can see why it was all released together.
I reckon it is very promising. The origin stuff is out of the way. I liked the way it didn't try too hard to be SW. No Stormtroopers, lightsabers, big baddies...yet. Just a proper story. This showrunner would have done a pretty good Obi-Wan I reckon although the trad SW does work with campness and pace better.I think the lasers, speeders etc definitely helped it feel more “Star Wars” in that last episode and after my initial gripe I’m accepting all the Poms as supporting characters.
Andor is obviously a bit of a scrapper and pretty ruthless so there’s enough there for me to care what happens to him. It should go without saying that he’ll have some run ins with Imperials down the line and I’m hoping there’s some memorable monsters/aliens too.
We know Mon Mothma is coming up and it will be interesting to see if they shoehorn in any other characters that we know. ( He’ll also meet K2SO for the first time as well )
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@MN5 said in Star Wars VII ****contains spoilers****:
@Crucial said in Star Wars VII ****contains spoilers****:
@MN5 said in Star Wars VII ****contains spoilers****:
They essentially started with the boring stuff at the start which is often dangerous in a show
If it wasn’t SW I probably woulda given up to be honest but there’s enough there to keep me interested now.
It was really a pilot split up as 3 eps. Can see why it was all released together.
I reckon it is very promising. The origin stuff is out of the way. I liked the way it didn't try too hard to be SW. No Stormtroopers, lightsabers, big baddies...yet. Just a proper story. This showrunner would have done a pretty good Obi-Wan I reckon although the trad SW does work with campness and pace better.I think the lasers, speeders etc definitely helped it feel more “Star Wars” in that last episode and after my initial gripe I’m accepting all the Poms as supporting characters.
Andor is obviously a bit of a scrapper and pretty ruthless so there’s enough there for me to care what happens to him. It should go without saying that he’ll have some run ins with Imperials down the line and I’m hoping there’s some memorable monsters/aliens too.
We know Mon Mothma is coming up and it will be interesting to see if they shoehorn in any other characters that we know. ( He’ll also meet K2SO for the first time as well )
I hope they keep the tie ins limited to the lead up to R1. Considering that SW is set in a whole galaxy it can seem like a small town at times with the random popping up of characters as fan fodder.
In the early (now legends) books the concept of these company run planets was common and made sense. The Empire had influence at threat over them but allowed them to be their own bullies. Meant someone else did their job for them. The oppression that triggered the Rebels came in many forms and many remained after the Emperor was toast. -
@Crucial said in Star Wars VII ****contains spoilers****:
@MN5 said in Star Wars VII ****contains spoilers****:
@Crucial said in Star Wars VII ****contains spoilers****:
@MN5 said in Star Wars VII ****contains spoilers****:
They essentially started with the boring stuff at the start which is often dangerous in a show
If it wasn’t SW I probably woulda given up to be honest but there’s enough there to keep me interested now.
It was really a pilot split up as 3 eps. Can see why it was all released together.
I reckon it is very promising. The origin stuff is out of the way. I liked the way it didn't try too hard to be SW. No Stormtroopers, lightsabers, big baddies...yet. Just a proper story. This showrunner would have done a pretty good Obi-Wan I reckon although the trad SW does work with campness and pace better.I think the lasers, speeders etc definitely helped it feel more “Star Wars” in that last episode and after my initial gripe I’m accepting all the Poms as supporting characters.
Andor is obviously a bit of a scrapper and pretty ruthless so there’s enough there for me to care what happens to him. It should go without saying that he’ll have some run ins with Imperials down the line and I’m hoping there’s some memorable monsters/aliens too.
We know Mon Mothma is coming up and it will be interesting to see if they shoehorn in any other characters that we know. ( He’ll also meet K2SO for the first time as well )
I hope they keep the tie ins limited to the lead up to R1. Considering that SW is set in a whole galaxy it can seem like a small town at times with the random popping up of characters as fan fodder.
In the early (now legends) books the concept of these company run planets was common and made sense. The Empire had influence at threat over them but allowed them to be their own bullies. Meant someone else did their job for them. The oppression that triggered the Rebels came in many forms and many remained after the Emperor was toast.Hmmmmm I thought by this period the Empire was pretty much everywhere ? ( ie Storm Troopers stationed on Tattoine in ANH )
The guys who went after Andor were a security team contracting to the Empire, is that what you thought too ?
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@MN5 said in Star Wars VII ****contains spoilers****:
@Crucial said in Star Wars VII ****contains spoilers****:
@MN5 said in Star Wars VII ****contains spoilers****:
@Crucial said in Star Wars VII ****contains spoilers****:
@MN5 said in Star Wars VII ****contains spoilers****:
They essentially started with the boring stuff at the start which is often dangerous in a show
If it wasn’t SW I probably woulda given up to be honest but there’s enough there to keep me interested now.
It was really a pilot split up as 3 eps. Can see why it was all released together.
I reckon it is very promising. The origin stuff is out of the way. I liked the way it didn't try too hard to be SW. No Stormtroopers, lightsabers, big baddies...yet. Just a proper story. This showrunner would have done a pretty good Obi-Wan I reckon although the trad SW does work with campness and pace better.I think the lasers, speeders etc definitely helped it feel more “Star Wars” in that last episode and after my initial gripe I’m accepting all the Poms as supporting characters.
Andor is obviously a bit of a scrapper and pretty ruthless so there’s enough there for me to care what happens to him. It should go without saying that he’ll have some run ins with Imperials down the line and I’m hoping there’s some memorable monsters/aliens too.
We know Mon Mothma is coming up and it will be interesting to see if they shoehorn in any other characters that we know. ( He’ll also meet K2SO for the first time as well )
I hope they keep the tie ins limited to the lead up to R1. Considering that SW is set in a whole galaxy it can seem like a small town at times with the random popping up of characters as fan fodder.
In the early (now legends) books the concept of these company run planets was common and made sense. The Empire had influence at threat over them but allowed them to be their own bullies. Meant someone else did their job for them. The oppression that triggered the Rebels came in many forms and many remained after the Emperor was toast.Hmmmmm I thought by this period the Empire was pretty much everywhere ? ( ie Storm Troopers stationed on Tattoine in ANH )
The guys who went after Andor were a security team contracting to the Empire, is that what you thought too ?
They were a company security team from what I saw. The boss guy explained the set up reasonably well in that he was reporting further up the company chain and no one wants heat or eyes on what they do, presumably because the company has to report to the Empire.
In other shows and books it has been fairly well shown that while the Empire had presence all over it was to remind places who could come in and apply heat if required. A threat.
Even Tattoine was left to it's own devices from what we have seen apart from a handful of Troopers showing the flag. -
@Crucial said in Star Wars VII ****contains spoilers****:
@MN5 said in Star Wars VII ****contains spoilers****:
@Crucial said in Star Wars VII ****contains spoilers****:
@MN5 said in Star Wars VII ****contains spoilers****:
@Crucial said in Star Wars VII ****contains spoilers****:
@MN5 said in Star Wars VII ****contains spoilers****:
They essentially started with the boring stuff at the start which is often dangerous in a show
If it wasn’t SW I probably woulda given up to be honest but there’s enough there to keep me interested now.
It was really a pilot split up as 3 eps. Can see why it was all released together.
I reckon it is very promising. The origin stuff is out of the way. I liked the way it didn't try too hard to be SW. No Stormtroopers, lightsabers, big baddies...yet. Just a proper story. This showrunner would have done a pretty good Obi-Wan I reckon although the trad SW does work with campness and pace better.I think the lasers, speeders etc definitely helped it feel more “Star Wars” in that last episode and after my initial gripe I’m accepting all the Poms as supporting characters.
Andor is obviously a bit of a scrapper and pretty ruthless so there’s enough there for me to care what happens to him. It should go without saying that he’ll have some run ins with Imperials down the line and I’m hoping there’s some memorable monsters/aliens too.
We know Mon Mothma is coming up and it will be interesting to see if they shoehorn in any other characters that we know. ( He’ll also meet K2SO for the first time as well )
I hope they keep the tie ins limited to the lead up to R1. Considering that SW is set in a whole galaxy it can seem like a small town at times with the random popping up of characters as fan fodder.
In the early (now legends) books the concept of these company run planets was common and made sense. The Empire had influence at threat over them but allowed them to be their own bullies. Meant someone else did their job for them. The oppression that triggered the Rebels came in many forms and many remained after the Emperor was toast.Hmmmmm I thought by this period the Empire was pretty much everywhere ? ( ie Storm Troopers stationed on Tattoine in ANH )
The guys who went after Andor were a security team contracting to the Empire, is that what you thought too ?
They were a company security team from what I saw. The boss guy explained the set up reasonably well in that he was reporting further up the company chain and no one wants heat or eyes on what they do, presumably because the company has to report to the Empire.
In other shows and books it has been fairly well shown that while the Empire had presence all over it was to remind places who could come in and apply heat if required. A threat.
Even Tattoine was left to it's own devices from what we have seen apart from a handful of Troopers showing the flag.Yeah true, it was implied that “The Hutts ran things” on Tattooine. There wasn’t a huge amount of troopers there.
Being Star Wars I would like Andor to come up against some Alien crime lord and use his wits to prevail.
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@MN5 said in Star Wars VII ****contains spoilers****:
@Crucial said in Star Wars VII ****contains spoilers****:
@MN5 said in Star Wars VII ****contains spoilers****:
@Crucial said in Star Wars VII ****contains spoilers****:
@MN5 said in Star Wars VII ****contains spoilers****:
@Crucial said in Star Wars VII ****contains spoilers****:
@MN5 said in Star Wars VII ****contains spoilers****:
They essentially started with the boring stuff at the start which is often dangerous in a show
If it wasn’t SW I probably woulda given up to be honest but there’s enough there to keep me interested now.
It was really a pilot split up as 3 eps. Can see why it was all released together.
I reckon it is very promising. The origin stuff is out of the way. I liked the way it didn't try too hard to be SW. No Stormtroopers, lightsabers, big baddies...yet. Just a proper story. This showrunner would have done a pretty good Obi-Wan I reckon although the trad SW does work with campness and pace better.I think the lasers, speeders etc definitely helped it feel more “Star Wars” in that last episode and after my initial gripe I’m accepting all the Poms as supporting characters.
Andor is obviously a bit of a scrapper and pretty ruthless so there’s enough there for me to care what happens to him. It should go without saying that he’ll have some run ins with Imperials down the line and I’m hoping there’s some memorable monsters/aliens too.
We know Mon Mothma is coming up and it will be interesting to see if they shoehorn in any other characters that we know. ( He’ll also meet K2SO for the first time as well )
I hope they keep the tie ins limited to the lead up to R1. Considering that SW is set in a whole galaxy it can seem like a small town at times with the random popping up of characters as fan fodder.
In the early (now legends) books the concept of these company run planets was common and made sense. The Empire had influence at threat over them but allowed them to be their own bullies. Meant someone else did their job for them. The oppression that triggered the Rebels came in many forms and many remained after the Emperor was toast.Hmmmmm I thought by this period the Empire was pretty much everywhere ? ( ie Storm Troopers stationed on Tattoine in ANH )
The guys who went after Andor were a security team contracting to the Empire, is that what you thought too ?
They were a company security team from what I saw. The boss guy explained the set up reasonably well in that he was reporting further up the company chain and no one wants heat or eyes on what they do, presumably because the company has to report to the Empire.
In other shows and books it has been fairly well shown that while the Empire had presence all over it was to remind places who could come in and apply heat if required. A threat.
Even Tattoine was left to it's own devices from what we have seen apart from a handful of Troopers showing the flag.Yeah true, it was implied that “The Hutts ran things” on Tattooine. There wasn’t a huge amount of troopers there.
Being Star Wars I would like Andor to come up against some Alien crime lord and use his wits to prevail.
I think this show may be more like Rebels for adults. Showing the oppression and formation of rebellion from a different angle and not quite so close to the main characters. Remember that no one really knew who he was in R1.
I'm not so enthused about Saw Gerrera appearing. Terrible character. -
@Crucial said in Star Wars VII ****contains spoilers****:
@MN5 said in Star Wars VII ****contains spoilers****:
@Crucial said in Star Wars VII ****contains spoilers****:
@MN5 said in Star Wars VII ****contains spoilers****:
@Crucial said in Star Wars VII ****contains spoilers****:
@MN5 said in Star Wars VII ****contains spoilers****:
@Crucial said in Star Wars VII ****contains spoilers****:
@MN5 said in Star Wars VII ****contains spoilers****:
They essentially started with the boring stuff at the start which is often dangerous in a show
If it wasn’t SW I probably woulda given up to be honest but there’s enough there to keep me interested now.
It was really a pilot split up as 3 eps. Can see why it was all released together.
I reckon it is very promising. The origin stuff is out of the way. I liked the way it didn't try too hard to be SW. No Stormtroopers, lightsabers, big baddies...yet. Just a proper story. This showrunner would have done a pretty good Obi-Wan I reckon although the trad SW does work with campness and pace better.I think the lasers, speeders etc definitely helped it feel more “Star Wars” in that last episode and after my initial gripe I’m accepting all the Poms as supporting characters.
Andor is obviously a bit of a scrapper and pretty ruthless so there’s enough there for me to care what happens to him. It should go without saying that he’ll have some run ins with Imperials down the line and I’m hoping there’s some memorable monsters/aliens too.
We know Mon Mothma is coming up and it will be interesting to see if they shoehorn in any other characters that we know. ( He’ll also meet K2SO for the first time as well )
I hope they keep the tie ins limited to the lead up to R1. Considering that SW is set in a whole galaxy it can seem like a small town at times with the random popping up of characters as fan fodder.
In the early (now legends) books the concept of these company run planets was common and made sense. The Empire had influence at threat over them but allowed them to be their own bullies. Meant someone else did their job for them. The oppression that triggered the Rebels came in many forms and many remained after the Emperor was toast.Hmmmmm I thought by this period the Empire was pretty much everywhere ? ( ie Storm Troopers stationed on Tattoine in ANH )
The guys who went after Andor were a security team contracting to the Empire, is that what you thought too ?
They were a company security team from what I saw. The boss guy explained the set up reasonably well in that he was reporting further up the company chain and no one wants heat or eyes on what they do, presumably because the company has to report to the Empire.
In other shows and books it has been fairly well shown that while the Empire had presence all over it was to remind places who could come in and apply heat if required. A threat.
Even Tattoine was left to it's own devices from what we have seen apart from a handful of Troopers showing the flag.Yeah true, it was implied that “The Hutts ran things” on Tattooine. There wasn’t a huge amount of troopers there.
Being Star Wars I would like Andor to come up against some Alien crime lord and use his wits to prevail.
I think this show may be more like Rebels for adults. Showing the oppression and formation of rebellion from a different angle and not quite so close to the main characters. Remember that no one really knew who he was in R1.
I'm not so enthused about Saw Gerrera appearing. Terrible character.Couldn’t agree more. There might be a backstory and cool action scene about how he lost his limbs but I’m not holding out too much hope.
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I watched the first three episodes today, I think they were different ones (at least the first two) than you watched @MN5 as I've found all three pretty good.
Also, I thought they pretty much explained in the first ep that the company are essentially a vassal of the Empire and are charged with running the bunch of planets in the sector so that would explain why no Storm Troopers.
But, I'm slightly worried though that we wont be seeing the hot chick again.
