Bledisloe 2
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@Kirwan said in Bledisloe 2:
@nzzp said in Bledisloe 2:
@Tim JB at 12... So will Jordan stays on the wing? Wtaf
He has to improve under the highball and with his tackling before getting the 15 gig.
I get that - but I think Reece is a much better 14. I just dno't get it; if we're not putting him at fullback, is he really better than Reece on the wing?
@nzzp said in Bledisloe 2:
@Kirwan said in Bledisloe 2:
@nzzp said in Bledisloe 2:
@Tim JB at 12... So will Jordan stays on the wing? Wtaf
He has to improve under the highball and with his tackling before getting the 15 gig.
I get that - but I think Reece is a much better 14. I just dno't get it; if we're not putting him at fullback, is he really better than Reece on the wing?
Isn't the rumour that Reece is looking overseas? So they have that policy of if it's close, then pick the guy staying?
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@mariner4life said in Bledisloe 2:
I've now realised, given the bench, that we will probably expect our 8 to switch positions as well.
No wonder our 2nd halves are scratchy. On top of subs coming on, our subs also push so many guys to new positions.
Maybe. They might just sub Ardie and have the Blues backrow.
@Kirwan no way is that happening.
Of the games Ardie played this year pretty sure he has played the full minutes
Edit: Looks like since 2019 (inclusive) he has been subbed 3 times (not this year) and subbed on once (31 tests)
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@mariner4life said in Bledisloe 2:
I've now realised, given the bench, that we will probably expect our 8 to switch positions as well.
No wonder our 2nd halves are scratchy. On top of subs coming on, our subs also push so many guys to new positions.
Maybe. They might just sub Ardie and have the Blues backrow.
@Kirwan said in Bledisloe 2:
@mariner4life said in Bledisloe 2:
I've now realised, given the bench, that we will probably expect our 8 to switch positions as well.
No wonder our 2nd halves are scratchy. On top of subs coming on, our subs also push so many guys to new positions.
Maybe. They might just sub Ardie and have the Blues backrow.
Are you trying to lose?
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@nzzp said in Bledisloe 2:
@Kirwan said in Bledisloe 2:
@nzzp said in Bledisloe 2:
@Tim JB at 12... So will Jordan stays on the wing? Wtaf
He has to improve under the highball and with his tackling before getting the 15 gig.
I get that - but I think Reece is a much better 14. I just dno't get it; if we're not putting him at fullback, is he really better than Reece on the wing?
Isn't the rumour that Reece is looking overseas? So they have that policy of if it's close, then pick the guy staying?
@Kirwan said in Bledisloe 2:
@nzzp said in Bledisloe 2:
@Kirwan said in Bledisloe 2:
@nzzp said in Bledisloe 2:
@Tim JB at 12... So will Jordan stays on the wing? Wtaf
He has to improve under the highball and with his tackling before getting the 15 gig.
I get that - but I think Reece is a much better 14. I just dno't get it; if we're not putting him at fullback, is he really better than Reece on the wing?
Isn't the rumour that Reece is looking overseas? So they have that policy of if it's close, then pick the guy staying?
Hopefully he doesn't stuff it up this time round.
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Some other info from the Foster press conference via Stuff:
- The Barrett selection at No 12 was down in part to the 60 minutes he enjoyed there last week.
- Taukei'aho shift to the bench is workload related. Taylor "in a good space".
- No issue with Swain ban, although he hasn't read the full decision.
- Whitelock named captain due to Savea missing a week to welcome third child.
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@nzzp said in Bledisloe 2:
@Kirwan said in Bledisloe 2:
@nzzp said in Bledisloe 2:
@Tim JB at 12... So will Jordan stays on the wing? Wtaf
He has to improve under the highball and with his tackling before getting the 15 gig.
I get that - but I think Reece is a much better 14. I just dno't get it; if we're not putting him at fullback, is he really better than Reece on the wing?
Isn't the rumour that Reece is looking overseas? So they have that policy of if it's close, then pick the guy staying?
@Kirwan said in Bledisloe 2:
@nzzp said in Bledisloe 2:
@Kirwan said in Bledisloe 2:
@nzzp said in Bledisloe 2:
@Tim JB at 12... So will Jordan stays on the wing? Wtaf
He has to improve under the highball and with his tackling before getting the 15 gig.
I get that - but I think Reece is a much better 14. I just dno't get it; if we're not putting him at fullback, is he really better than Reece on the wing?
Isn't the rumour that Reece is looking overseas? So they have that policy of if it's close, then pick the guy staying?
Lol like Tuinukuafe?
That policy, whenever it was around (a long time ago honestly), is clearly just applied wherever they feel like it.
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Did notice BB coming on last week and completely taking over. Did he come on at 1st-five or did he just think, "Stand back, I'll take it from here"?
@Old-Samurai-Jack said in Bledisloe 2:
Did notice BB coming on last week and completely taking over. Did he come on at 1st-five or did he just think, "Stand back, I'll take it from here"?
He basically played 2nd 5 in attack. Played fullback when OZ were in attack.
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The Taylor selection is the puzzling one for me when samisoni is obviously fit enough for the bench
Maybe scooter has a niggle ?
Beaudy tends to play more fb more than anywhere else these days .
They rightly or wrongly see Jordan as a 14 not a 15 at this level
@kiwiinmelb said in Bledisloe 2:
Beaudy tends to play more fb more than anywhere else these days .
They rightly or wrongly see Jordan as a 14 not a 15 at this level
Never likely to shift Jordan to 15, if that would mean keeping Beaudy on the bench.
Much as some of the fans would like to see Will at 15, he's locked in as their right wing - and Jordie is locked in at fullback, so they'd only use Will at FB in an emergency.
On his position at right wing, rumours of his demise (on the fern) are much exaggerated IMO.
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@Kirwan said in Bledisloe 2:
@nzzp said in Bledisloe 2:
@Kirwan said in Bledisloe 2:
@nzzp said in Bledisloe 2:
@Tim JB at 12... So will Jordan stays on the wing? Wtaf
He has to improve under the highball and with his tackling before getting the 15 gig.
I get that - but I think Reece is a much better 14. I just dno't get it; if we're not putting him at fullback, is he really better than Reece on the wing?
Isn't the rumour that Reece is looking overseas? So they have that policy of if it's close, then pick the guy staying?
Lol like Tuinukuafe?
That policy, whenever it was around (a long time ago honestly), is clearly just applied wherever they feel like it.
@Frye said in Bledisloe 2:
@Kirwan said in Bledisloe 2:
@nzzp said in Bledisloe 2:
@Kirwan said in Bledisloe 2:
@nzzp said in Bledisloe 2:
@Tim JB at 12... So will Jordan stays on the wing? Wtaf
He has to improve under the highball and with his tackling before getting the 15 gig.
I get that - but I think Reece is a much better 14. I just dno't get it; if we're not putting him at fullback, is he really better than Reece on the wing?
Isn't the rumour that Reece is looking overseas? So they have that policy of if it's close, then pick the guy staying?
Lol like Tuinukuafe?
That policy, whenever it was around (a long time ago honestly), is clearly just applied wherever they feel like it.
That was a stop gap to improve De Groot's fitness. Here it's a choice between Jordan and Reece.
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@kiwiinmelb said in Bledisloe 2:
Beaudy tends to play more fb more than anywhere else these days .
They rightly or wrongly see Jordan as a 14 not a 15 at this level
Never likely to shift Jordan to 15, if that would mean keeping Beaudy on the bench.
Much as some of the fans would like to see Will at 15, he's locked in as their right wing - and Jordie is locked in at fullback, so they'd only use Will at FB in an emergency.
On his position at right wing, rumours of his demise (on the fern) are much exaggerated IMO.
@Chris-B said in Bledisloe 2:
@kiwiinmelb said in Bledisloe 2:
Beaudy tends to play more fb more than anywhere else these days .
They rightly or wrongly see Jordan as a 14 not a 15 at this level
Never likely to shift Jordan to 15, if that would mean keeping Beaudy on the bench.
Much as some of the fans would like to see Will at 15, he's locked in as their right wing - and Jordie is locked in at fullback, so they'd only use Will at FB in an emergency.
On his position at right wing, rumours of his demise (on the fern) are much exaggerated IMO.
Won't be if he keeps missing five tackles a game in a position that doesn't make a lot of tackles, no matter great he is on attack.
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@Kirwan said in Bledisloe 2:
@mariner4life said in Bledisloe 2:
I've now realised, given the bench, that we will probably expect our 8 to switch positions as well.
No wonder our 2nd halves are scratchy. On top of subs coming on, our subs also push so many guys to new positions.
Maybe. They might just sub Ardie and have the Blues backrow.
Are you trying to lose?
@mariner4life said in Bledisloe 2:
@Kirwan said in Bledisloe 2:
@mariner4life said in Bledisloe 2:
I've now realised, given the bench, that we will probably expect our 8 to switch positions as well.
No wonder our 2nd halves are scratchy. On top of subs coming on, our subs also push so many guys to new positions.
Maybe. They might just sub Ardie and have the Blues backrow.
Are you trying to lose?
Don't be silly. Team has been clearly selected for combinations.
They are either going to move Ardie to seven or swap him completely. They don't do either often, so whatever they do will be unusual.
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@mariner4life said in Bledisloe 2:
@Crucial said in Bledisloe 2:
Who is our cover at 6?
Vaai. Savea. Shit maybe even Sotutu.
Vaai, Dalton then Savea. Sotutu just plays eight.
Won't be surprised if they leave Akira out there for the full 80.
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@Tim So Codie gets a lifeline. I like that the bench front row is unlikely to lose a scrum and may win some ball, but there's not a lot of mobility from Laulala as the game is supposed to "open up".
Second row picks itself. Hopefully Vaa'i can get some quality time on the field.
No complaints about the backrow.
Halves pick themselves.
Pleased to see they went for the obvious in a centre pairing with Rieko given injuries. I felt Jordie played well last week.
Would've preferred to see Reece get a start.
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@Chris-B said in Bledisloe 2:
@kiwiinmelb said in Bledisloe 2:
Beaudy tends to play more fb more than anywhere else these days .
They rightly or wrongly see Jordan as a 14 not a 15 at this level
Never likely to shift Jordan to 15, if that would mean keeping Beaudy on the bench.
Much as some of the fans would like to see Will at 15, he's locked in as their right wing - and Jordie is locked in at fullback, so they'd only use Will at FB in an emergency.
On his position at right wing, rumours of his demise (on the fern) are much exaggerated IMO.
Won't be if he keeps missing five tackles a game in a position that doesn't make a lot of tackles, no matter great he is on attack.
@Kirwan said in Bledisloe 2:
@Chris-B said in Bledisloe 2:
@kiwiinmelb said in Bledisloe 2:
Beaudy tends to play more fb more than anywhere else these days .
They rightly or wrongly see Jordan as a 14 not a 15 at this level
Never likely to shift Jordan to 15, if that would mean keeping Beaudy on the bench.
Much as some of the fans would like to see Will at 15, he's locked in as their right wing - and Jordie is locked in at fullback, so they'd only use Will at FB in an emergency.
On his position at right wing, rumours of his demise (on the fern) are much exaggerated IMO.
Won't be if he keeps missing five tackles a game in a position that doesn't make a lot of tackles, no matter great he is on attack.
Depends on what they are.
One was a bad miss on Samu.
One was never likely to be made when Koroibete was running away from him.
One was probably in the first minute of play when he and (I think SBarrett) bundled an Aussie into touch but, Will fell over at the end.
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@Frye said in Bledisloe 2:
@Kirwan said in Bledisloe 2:
@nzzp said in Bledisloe 2:
@Kirwan said in Bledisloe 2:
@nzzp said in Bledisloe 2:
@Tim JB at 12... So will Jordan stays on the wing? Wtaf
He has to improve under the highball and with his tackling before getting the 15 gig.
I get that - but I think Reece is a much better 14. I just dno't get it; if we're not putting him at fullback, is he really better than Reece on the wing?
Isn't the rumour that Reece is looking overseas? So they have that policy of if it's close, then pick the guy staying?
Lol like Tuinukuafe?
That policy, whenever it was around (a long time ago honestly), is clearly just applied wherever they feel like it.
That was a stop gap to improve De Groot's fitness. Here it's a choice between Jordan and Reece.
@Kirwan said in Bledisloe 2:
@Frye said in Bledisloe 2:
@Kirwan said in Bledisloe 2:
@nzzp said in Bledisloe 2:
@Kirwan said in Bledisloe 2:
@nzzp said in Bledisloe 2:
@Tim JB at 12... So will Jordan stays on the wing? Wtaf
He has to improve under the highball and with his tackling before getting the 15 gig.
I get that - but I think Reece is a much better 14. I just dno't get it; if we're not putting him at fullback, is he really better than Reece on the wing?
Isn't the rumour that Reece is looking overseas? So they have that policy of if it's close, then pick the guy staying?
Lol like Tuinukuafe?
That policy, whenever it was around (a long time ago honestly), is clearly just applied wherever they feel like it.
That was a stop gap to improve De Groot's fitness. Here it's a choice between Jordan and Reece.
Exactly. Applied as arbitrarily as they feel like it.
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@Kirwan said in Bledisloe 2:
@Frye said in Bledisloe 2:
@Kirwan said in Bledisloe 2:
@nzzp said in Bledisloe 2:
@Kirwan said in Bledisloe 2:
@nzzp said in Bledisloe 2:
@Tim JB at 12... So will Jordan stays on the wing? Wtaf
He has to improve under the highball and with his tackling before getting the 15 gig.
I get that - but I think Reece is a much better 14. I just dno't get it; if we're not putting him at fullback, is he really better than Reece on the wing?
Isn't the rumour that Reece is looking overseas? So they have that policy of if it's close, then pick the guy staying?
Lol like Tuinukuafe?
That policy, whenever it was around (a long time ago honestly), is clearly just applied wherever they feel like it.
That was a stop gap to improve De Groot's fitness. Here it's a choice between Jordan and Reece.
Exactly. Applied as arbitrarily as they feel like it.
@Frye said in Bledisloe 2:
@Kirwan said in Bledisloe 2:
@Frye said in Bledisloe 2:
@Kirwan said in Bledisloe 2:
@nzzp said in Bledisloe 2:
@Kirwan said in Bledisloe 2:
@nzzp said in Bledisloe 2:
@Tim JB at 12... So will Jordan stays on the wing? Wtaf
He has to improve under the highball and with his tackling before getting the 15 gig.
I get that - but I think Reece is a much better 14. I just dno't get it; if we're not putting him at fullback, is he really better than Reece on the wing?
Isn't the rumour that Reece is looking overseas? So they have that policy of if it's close, then pick the guy staying?
Lol like Tuinukuafe?
That policy, whenever it was around (a long time ago honestly), is clearly just applied wherever they feel like it.
That was a stop gap to improve De Groot's fitness. Here it's a choice between Jordan and Reece.
Exactly. Applied as arbitrarily as they feel like it.
Yeah....for the benefit of the team. Or would you prefer they cut off their nose to spite their face?
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@Frye said in Bledisloe 2:
@Kirwan said in Bledisloe 2:
@Frye said in Bledisloe 2:
@Kirwan said in Bledisloe 2:
@nzzp said in Bledisloe 2:
@Kirwan said in Bledisloe 2:
@nzzp said in Bledisloe 2:
@Tim JB at 12... So will Jordan stays on the wing? Wtaf
He has to improve under the highball and with his tackling before getting the 15 gig.
I get that - but I think Reece is a much better 14. I just dno't get it; if we're not putting him at fullback, is he really better than Reece on the wing?
Isn't the rumour that Reece is looking overseas? So they have that policy of if it's close, then pick the guy staying?
Lol like Tuinukuafe?
That policy, whenever it was around (a long time ago honestly), is clearly just applied wherever they feel like it.
That was a stop gap to improve De Groot's fitness. Here it's a choice between Jordan and Reece.
Exactly. Applied as arbitrarily as they feel like it.
Yeah....for the benefit of the team. Or would you prefer they cut off their nose to spite their face?
@Kirwan said in Bledisloe 2:
@Frye said in Bledisloe 2:
@Kirwan said in Bledisloe 2:
@Frye said in Bledisloe 2:
@Kirwan said in Bledisloe 2:
@nzzp said in Bledisloe 2:
@Kirwan said in Bledisloe 2:
@nzzp said in Bledisloe 2:
@Tim JB at 12... So will Jordan stays on the wing? Wtaf
He has to improve under the highball and with his tackling before getting the 15 gig.
I get that - but I think Reece is a much better 14. I just dno't get it; if we're not putting him at fullback, is he really better than Reece on the wing?
Isn't the rumour that Reece is looking overseas? So they have that policy of if it's close, then pick the guy staying?
Lol like Tuinukuafe?
That policy, whenever it was around (a long time ago honestly), is clearly just applied wherever they feel like it.
That was a stop gap to improve De Groot's fitness. Here it's a choice between Jordan and Reece.
Exactly. Applied as arbitrarily as they feel like it.
Yeah....for the benefit of the team. Or would you prefer they cut off their nose to spite their face?
It's complete speculation on your part.
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Looks like a bit of planned rotation for workload, impacted by injuries. Would think a few players are at last chance saloon for EOYT. Let's just see who fronts and who does not.
Whoever pushed RTS into specialising at 12 has ruined a career in my view. He would have been a shoo-in for back 3 with our winger issues gone. Gutted if Reece is going offshore..
I am a bit worried whether loosies will stand up to a centre field barrage. Wonder who replaces Leota?
