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Bledisloe 2

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  • KirwanK Kirwan

    @mariner4life said in Bledisloe 2:

    @Kirwan said in Bledisloe 2:

    @mariner4life said in Bledisloe 2:

    @Kirwan said in Bledisloe 2:

    @mariner4life said in Bledisloe 2:

    I've now realised, given the bench, that we will probably expect our 8 to switch positions as well.

    No wonder our 2nd halves are scratchy. On top of subs coming on, our subs also push so many guys to new positions.

    Maybe. They might just sub Ardie and have the Blues backrow.

    Are you trying to lose?

    Don't be silly. Team has been clearly selected for combinations.

    They are either going to move Ardie to seven or swap him completely. They don't do either often, so whatever they do will be unusual.

    Don't be silly

    The team has been selected with what's left

    The top 2 blindsides are out so akira starts
    The top 7 is out so Dalton plays

    The top 2 inside centres are out, and RTS isn't ready so JB plays. BB is the next fullback. Even the bench is just the next guys

    This is necessity, not some glowing recommendation on getting a bunch of Blues players to play together

    If everyone was fit and fresh most of the guys we are talking about wouldn't even be in the 23

    Just repeating my line is, well silly.

    But not as silly as saying most of the guys would be out of the 23. Akira and Dalton have been involved with the other players fit.

    Frizzel is fit, by the way.

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    bayimports
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    #322

    @Kirwan said in Bledisloe 2:

    @mariner4life said in Bledisloe 2:

    @Kirwan said in Bledisloe 2:

    @mariner4life said in Bledisloe 2:

    @Kirwan said in Bledisloe 2:

    @mariner4life said in Bledisloe 2:

    I've now realised, given the bench, that we will probably expect our 8 to switch positions as well.

    No wonder our 2nd halves are scratchy. On top of subs coming on, our subs also push so many guys to new positions.

    Maybe. They might just sub Ardie and have the Blues backrow.

    Are you trying to lose?

    Don't be silly. Team has been clearly selected for combinations.

    They are either going to move Ardie to seven or swap him completely. They don't do either often, so whatever they do will be unusual.

    Don't be silly

    The team has been selected with what's left

    The top 2 blindsides are out so akira starts
    The top 7 is out so Dalton plays

    The top 2 inside centres are out, and RTS isn't ready so JB plays. BB is the next fullback. Even the bench is just the next guys

    This is necessity, not some glowing recommendation on getting a bunch of Blues players to play together

    If everyone was fit and fresh most of the guys we are talking about wouldn't even be in the 23

    Frizzel is fit, by the way.

    Not sure if that is completely true, sounds like he needs more time

    https://www.stuff.co.nz/sport/rugby/all-blacks/300694794/all-blacks-sam-whitelock-named-captain-for-test-against-wallabies-in-auckland

    Shannon Frizell, who wasn’t available to play in Melbourne because of sore ribs, has also been given more time to recover.

    I do agree with your other points

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    • BovidaeB Bovidae

      Some other info from the Foster press conference via Stuff:

      • The Barrett selection at No 12 was down in part to the 60 minutes he enjoyed there last week.
      • Taukei'aho shift to the bench is workload related. Taylor "in a good space".
      • No issue with Swain ban, although he hasn't read the full decision.
      • Whitelock named captain due to Savea missing a week to welcome third child.
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      #323

      @Bovidae said in Bledisloe 2:

      Some other info from the Foster press conference via Stuff:

      • The Barrett selection at No 12 was down in part to the 60 minutes he enjoyed there last week.
      • Taukei'aho shift to the bench is workload related. Taylor "in a good space".
      • No issue with Swain ban, although he hasn't read the full decision.
      • Whitelock named captain due to Savea missing a week to welcome third child.

      What about Scott. Is he injured
      Taylor starting is an odd one though.

      edit. In the stuff article

      Akira Ioane has been brought into blindside flanker, ahead of Scott Barrett who has not been named in the match-day 23 because he was listed as being unavailable for selection.

      Foster said the All Blacks had been “managing’’ Barrett, who had been bothered by a sore Achilles tendon and calf muscle, and it was decided it was best to rest him. Shannon Frizell, who wasn’t available to play in Melbourne because of sore ribs, has also been given more time to recover.

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        https://i.imgur.com/lOaXsOy.jpg

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        #324

        @Tim Is this a late April fools joke?

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        • WingerW Winger

          @Bovidae said in Bledisloe 2:

          Some other info from the Foster press conference via Stuff:

          • The Barrett selection at No 12 was down in part to the 60 minutes he enjoyed there last week.
          • Taukei'aho shift to the bench is workload related. Taylor "in a good space".
          • No issue with Swain ban, although he hasn't read the full decision.
          • Whitelock named captain due to Savea missing a week to welcome third child.

          What about Scott. Is he injured
          Taylor starting is an odd one though.

          edit. In the stuff article

          Akira Ioane has been brought into blindside flanker, ahead of Scott Barrett who has not been named in the match-day 23 because he was listed as being unavailable for selection.

          Foster said the All Blacks had been “managing’’ Barrett, who had been bothered by a sore Achilles tendon and calf muscle, and it was decided it was best to rest him. Shannon Frizell, who wasn’t available to play in Melbourne because of sore ribs, has also been given more time to recover.

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          @Winger

          I posted about Barrett earlier.

          Foster said the All Blacks had been “managing’’ Barrett, who had been bothered by a sore Achilles tendon and calf muscle, and it was decided it was best to rest him.

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          • A ARHS

            Looks like a bit of planned rotation for workload, impacted by injuries. Would think a few players are at last chance saloon for EOYT. Let's just see who fronts and who does not.
            Whoever pushed RTS into specialising at 12 has ruined a career in my view. He would have been a shoo-in for back 3 with our winger issues gone. Gutted if Reece is going offshore..
            I am a bit worried whether loosies will stand up to a centre field barrage. Wonder who replaces Leota?

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            @ARHS said in Bledisloe 2:

            I am a bit worried whether loosies will stand up to a centre field barrage. Wonder who replaces Leota?

            I read that Neville will return so maybe Holloway back to 6.

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            • HoorooH Do not disturb
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              Hooroo
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              #327

              Boy oh boy is Savea in for a big night with Akiera doing fuck all on defence.

              BB at the back looking all hopeless while Jordan is misplaced on the wing.

              At least Codie Taylor is starting as that will overshadow all the other weaknesses on show.

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              • B bayimports

                @Kirwan said in Bledisloe 2:

                @mariner4life said in Bledisloe 2:

                @Kirwan said in Bledisloe 2:

                @mariner4life said in Bledisloe 2:

                @Kirwan said in Bledisloe 2:

                @mariner4life said in Bledisloe 2:

                I've now realised, given the bench, that we will probably expect our 8 to switch positions as well.

                No wonder our 2nd halves are scratchy. On top of subs coming on, our subs also push so many guys to new positions.

                Maybe. They might just sub Ardie and have the Blues backrow.

                Are you trying to lose?

                Don't be silly. Team has been clearly selected for combinations.

                They are either going to move Ardie to seven or swap him completely. They don't do either often, so whatever they do will be unusual.

                Don't be silly

                The team has been selected with what's left

                The top 2 blindsides are out so akira starts
                The top 7 is out so Dalton plays

                The top 2 inside centres are out, and RTS isn't ready so JB plays. BB is the next fullback. Even the bench is just the next guys

                This is necessity, not some glowing recommendation on getting a bunch of Blues players to play together

                If everyone was fit and fresh most of the guys we are talking about wouldn't even be in the 23

                Frizzel is fit, by the way.

                Not sure if that is completely true, sounds like he needs more time

                https://www.stuff.co.nz/sport/rugby/all-blacks/300694794/all-blacks-sam-whitelock-named-captain-for-test-against-wallabies-in-auckland

                Shannon Frizell, who wasn’t available to play in Melbourne because of sore ribs, has also been given more time to recover.

                I do agree with your other points

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                Kirwan
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                #328

                @bayimports said in Bledisloe 2:

                @Kirwan said in Bledisloe 2:

                @mariner4life said in Bledisloe 2:

                @Kirwan said in Bledisloe 2:

                @mariner4life said in Bledisloe 2:

                @Kirwan said in Bledisloe 2:

                @mariner4life said in Bledisloe 2:

                I've now realised, given the bench, that we will probably expect our 8 to switch positions as well.

                No wonder our 2nd halves are scratchy. On top of subs coming on, our subs also push so many guys to new positions.

                Maybe. They might just sub Ardie and have the Blues backrow.

                Are you trying to lose?

                Don't be silly. Team has been clearly selected for combinations.

                They are either going to move Ardie to seven or swap him completely. They don't do either often, so whatever they do will be unusual.

                Don't be silly

                The team has been selected with what's left

                The top 2 blindsides are out so akira starts
                The top 7 is out so Dalton plays

                The top 2 inside centres are out, and RTS isn't ready so JB plays. BB is the next fullback. Even the bench is just the next guys

                This is necessity, not some glowing recommendation on getting a bunch of Blues players to play together

                If everyone was fit and fresh most of the guys we are talking about wouldn't even be in the 23

                Frizzel is fit, by the way.

                Not sure if that is completely true, sounds like he needs more time

                https://www.stuff.co.nz/sport/rugby/all-blacks/300694794/all-blacks-sam-whitelock-named-captain-for-test-against-wallabies-in-auckland

                Shannon Frizell, who wasn’t available to play in Melbourne because of sore ribs, has also been given more time to recover.

                I do agree with your other points

                Foster said he could have played in a pinch, so is fit but given more time to recover.

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                • MN5M MN5

                  I’m really disappointed at the lack of melting down at the news that Taylor is starting. Sort it out guys.

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                  #329

                  @MN5 said in Bledisloe 2:

                  I’m really disappointed at the lack of melting down at the news that Taylor is starting. Sort it out guys.

                  Beyond melting down to be honest. I’m going to be watching him in a dimmed room with a crystal glass of scotch and a loaded revolver. I’m not taking any chances since they revived me from the arsenic last time he played.

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                    #330

                    Wallabies team

                    1. James Slipper (c) (122 Tests)
                    2. David Porecki (6 Tests)
                    3. Allan Alaalatoa (59 Tests)
                    4. Jed Holloway (5 Tests)
                    5. Cadeyrn Neville (2 Tests)
                    6. Rob Valetini (26 Tests)
                    7. Pete Samu (27 Tests)
                    8. Harry Wilson (11 Tests)
                    9. Jake Gordon (15 Tests)
                    10. Bernard Foley (72 Tests)
                    11. Marika Koroibete (50 Tests)
                    12. Lalakai Foketi (3 Tests)
                    13. Len Ikitau (20 Tests)
                    14. Tom Wright (17 Tests)
                    15. Andrew Kellaway (17 Tests)
                      Replacements
                    16. Folau Fainga’a (32 Tests)
                    17. Angus Bell (19 Tests)
                    18. Pone Fa’amausili (2 Tests)
                    19. Nick Frost (4 Tests)
                    20. Fraser McReight (7 Tests)
                    21. Nic White (55 Tests)
                    22. Reece Hodge (59 Tests)
                    23. Jordan Petaia (21 Tests)
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                      For who prefers pictures:

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                        Machpants
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                        #332

                        Akira and Dalton better step the fuck up, because after last game I'd pick Samu and Valentini over them

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                        • M Machpants

                          Akira and Dalton better step the fuck up, because after last game I'd pick Samu and Valentini over them

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                          broughie
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                          @Machpants yep. My faith in a Akira is at the PT level.

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                            • M Machpants

                              Akira and Dalton better step the fuck up, because after last game I'd pick Samu and Valentini over them

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                              @Machpants said in Bledisloe 2:

                              Akira and Dalton better step the fuck up, because after last game I'd pick Samu and Valentini over them

                              Akira got 12 minutes game time.

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                                https://mobile.twitter.com/OllieRitchie1/status/1572788466727129088

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                                  #337

                                  Geez Dave is becoming a real Aussie whinger isn’t he?

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                                  • CrucialC Crucial

                                    Geez Dave is becoming a real Aussie whinger isn’t he?

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                                    @Crucial said in Bledisloe 2:

                                    Geez Dave is becoming a real Aussie whinged isn’t he?

                                    Becoming like Warren Gatland.

                                    Maybe it’s a Chiefs thing…

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                                    • CrucialC Crucial

                                      Geez Dave is becoming a real Aussie whinger isn’t he?

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                                      @Crucial said in Bledisloe 2:

                                      Geez Dave is becoming a real Aussie whinged isn’t he?

                                      It seems to be necessary at that level - talking the game down to grow it.

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                                      • KiwiMurphK KiwiMurph

                                        https://mobile.twitter.com/OllieRitchie1/status/1572788466727129088

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                                        @KiwiMurph but he thought Swains clean out was ok?

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                                          Apparently Ioane thought the boomerang advance was disrespectful to the haka. If this is true, he's a fucking tool. They don't have to stand there like dummies, and it's great that they responded, and will do so again this weekend

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