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    <blockquote class="ipsBlockquote" data-author="bobily" data-cid="590726" data-time="1466644580">
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    <p>Peter Umaga-Jensen has joined the side (I think because Lowe injured himself?), so Tuitama's suspension should mean he gets some game time</p>
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    <p> </p>
    <p>Did they fly him over just for that one game? Must mean Trainor is not available either. Or maybe he was brought over to cover for Trainor?</p>
    <p> </p>
    <p>Yes, Lowe ended up at the bottom of a pile of bodies after being tackled and stayed on the ground - grabbing his leg - afterwards. Looked like hamstring injury, but haven't read/heard anything.</p>

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      <blockquote class="ipsBlockquote" data-author="Stargazer" data-cid="590741" data-time="1466645908"><p>Did they fly him over just for that one game? Must mean Trainor is not available either. Or maybe he was brought over to cover for Trainor?<br>
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      Yes, Lowe ended up at the bottom of a pile of bodies after being tackled and stayed on the ground - grabbing his leg - afterwards. Looked like hamstring injury, but haven't read/heard anything.</p></blockquote>
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      I forgot about Trainor. That could make more sense.

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        <p><strong>NZ team</strong> to play Australia for 5th place (Sunday 26 June from 3.35am on SKY Sports 1):</p>
        <p> </p>
        <div>1. Ayden Johnstone 2. Leni Apisai (c) 3. Sosefo Kautai 4. Quinten Strange 5. Hamish Dalzell 6. Luke Jacobson 7. Mitchell Jacobson  8. Marino Mikaele-Tu’u 9. Sam Nock 10. Stephen Perofeta 11. Jonah Lowe 12. Jordie Barrett 13. Patelesio Tomkinson 14. Caleb Makene 15. Shaun Stevenson</div>
        <div> </div>
        <div>Reserves: 16. Asafo Aumua 17. Sean Paranihi 18. Alex Fidow 19. Hapakuki Moala Liava’a  20. ?  21. Jonathan Taumateine 22. TJ Va’a 23. Peter Umaga Jensen</div>
        <div> </div>
        <div>Changes made:</div>
        <div>Prop Ayden Johnstone replaces Sean Paranihi who drops to the bench, Marino Mikaele-Tu’u reclaims the number 8 jersey from Hapakuki Moala Liava’a, while Peter Umaga Jensen will start from the bench, having flown over to join the squad as injury cover.</div>
        <div> </div>
        <div>It looks like Umaga Jensen has replaced Malo Tuitama on the bench.</div>
        <div> </div>
        <div><a data-ipb='nomediaparse' href='http://www.allblacks.com/News/29368/nz-u20-ready-for-showdown-with-australia'>http://www.allblacks.com/News/29368/nz-u20-ready-for-showdown-with-australia</a></div>
        <div> </div>
        <div>(The line-up has Mikaele-Tu'u both starting and on the bench; unsure who has replaced him on the bench.)</div>

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          <p>Two hours later, the All Blacks account posts an update on Twitter:</p>
          <p> </p>
          <p>#NZU20 UPDATE | Jonah Lowe is replaced at 11 by Peter Umaga-Jensen with Orbyn Leger coming in at number 23.</p>
          <p> </p>
          <p>What do they know now that they didn't know 2 hours ago? Weird. Still unclear who's at 20.</p>
          <p> </p>
          <p>New line-up:</p>
          <p> </p>
          <div>1. Ayden Johnstone 2. Leni Apisai (c) 3. Sosefo Kautai 4. Quinten Strange 5. Hamish Dalzell 6. Luke Jacobson 7. Mitchell Jacobson  8. Marino Mikaele-Tu’u 9. Sam Nock 10. Stephen Perofeta 11. Peter Umaga-Jensen 12. Jordie Barrett 13. Patelesio Tomkinson 14. Caleb Makene 15. Shaun Stevenson</div>
          <div> </div>
          <div>Reserves: 16. Asafo Aumua 17. Sean Paranihi 18. Alex Fidow 19. Hapakuki Moala Liava’a 20. ? 21. Jonathan Taumateine 22. TJ Va’a 23. Orbyn Leger</div>

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            <p>The World Rugby site has Isaia Walker-Leawere at 19 and Moala-Liava'a at 20. Which would seem to make more sense.</p>
            <p> </p>
            <p>Maybe they were hoping Jonah Lowe would come right before the game? Either way, glad that Peter Umaga-Jensen is getting a start.</p>
            <p> </p>
            <p>What was the point of bringing Leger along? I don't think they've even used him?</p>

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              <p>Great to see Peter Umaga Jensen selected, though Ive never seen him play 11. Usually a Fullback or Centre.</p>

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                <blockquote class="ipsBlockquote" data-author="bobily" data-cid="591332" data-time="1466808211">
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                <p>The World Rugby site has Isaia Walker-Leawere at 19 and Moala-Liava'a at 20. Which would seem to make more sense.</p>
                <p> </p>
                <p>Maybe they were hoping Jonah Lowe would come right before the game? Either way, glad that Peter Umaga-Jensen is getting a start.</p>
                <p> </p>
                <p><strong>What was the point of bringing Leger along?</strong> I don't think they've even used him?</p>
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                <p>Yeah, and what was the point of including Trainor in the squad? Emerson could have made a big difference. I know I'm repeating myself, but I'm still annoyed about his non-selection.</p>

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                  <blockquote class="ipsBlockquote" data-author="Stargazer" data-cid="591378" data-time="1466833316">
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                  <p>Yeah, and what was the point of including Trainor in the squad? Emerson could have made a big difference. I know I'm repeating myself, but I'm still annoyed about his non-selection.</p>
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                  <p>I'm no Emerson fluffer (he's got the Lindersfarne black mark against him of course ;)) but it was weird that he didn't make this team - he was one of the top 3 in the game the team actually won against the convicts and he seems to suit wing better than Lowe (as one example of a player who made the team ahead of him).</p>

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                    Popoali'i not made the team at all in any game in this junior rwc either has he?<br><br><br>
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                      <blockquote class="ipsBlockquote" data-author="Stargazer" data-cid="591378" data-time="1466833316">
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                      <p>Yeah, and what was the point of including Trainor in the squad? Emerson could have made a big difference. I know I'm repeating myself, but I'm still annoyed about his non-selection.</p>
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                      <p>Trainor deserved to get in the team after his U19, Ranfurly Shield, and Blues Dev performances. They didn't know Trainor was going to get injured after one game.</p>

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                        <blockquote class="ipsBlockquote" data-author="leytonandamanda" data-cid="591384" data-time="1466834422">
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                        <p>Popoali'i not made the team at all in any game in this junior rwc either has he?<br><br><br>
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                        <p>I think he made the bench in the first game, but I don't think he got on. With how Jacobson has been going, he probably should've got this last game.</p>

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                          <blockquote class="ipsBlockquote" data-author="Dice" data-cid="591401" data-time="1466838737">
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                          <p>Trainor deserved to get in the team after his U19, Ranfurly Shield, and Blues Dev performances. They didn't know Trainor was going to get injured after one game.</p>
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                          <p> </p>
                          <p>Trainor was seriously injured before the tournament (ruptured spleen?) and was expected to be out for much longer. They took a big gamble by selecting him and it miss-fired. In his only game, he didn't play well at all. Emerson deserved to be included just as much; thanks to him, the Magpies won the ITM Cup Championship Final in which he scored the winning try. He also performed well in the warm-up matches.</p>

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                            <blockquote class="ipsBlockquote" data-author="Stargazer" data-cid="591408" data-time="1466839807">
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                            <p>Trainor was seriously injured before the tournament (ruptured spleen?) and was expected to be out for much longer. They took a big gamble by selecting him and it miss-fired. In his only game, he didn't play well at all. Emerson deserved to be included just as much; thanks to him, the Magpies won the ITM Cup Championship Final in which he scored the winning try. He also performed well in the warm-up matches.</p>
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                            <p><span style="color:rgb(40,40,40);font-family:helvetica, arial, sans-serif;">He wasn't really expected to be out longer, no one really knew TBF, because it wasn't a common injury. They said he could've been out for between 6 weeks to a year, but it was much closer to 6 weeks than a year. </span></p>
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                            <p>In his one game, I thought he was ok, not bad. He hooked up well with the wingers in bad conditions and he had to play behind a well beaten pack.. He got hurt after taking a big hit to set up Tuitama for a try.</p>
                            <p> </p>
                            <p>Emerson probably did deserve to make the team, but not for Trainor. I doubt he makes a big difference in this tournament though, as he can't scrum, win lineouts or muscle up in the tight. The wingers in this team weren't a problem in this tournament.</p>

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                              leytonandamanda
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                              Shaun Stevenson has had to pull out of the game and caleb makene now goes to full back<br><br><br>
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                                <blockquote class="ipsBlockquote" data-author="leytonandamanda" data-cid="591828" data-time="1466869140">
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                                <p>Shaun Stevenson has had to pull out of the game and caleb makene now goes to full back<br><br><br>
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                                <p>Injured? I assume Leger to 14 & someone else taking his spot on the bench?</p>

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                                  <blockquote class="ipsBlockquote" data-author="Stargazer" data-cid="591830" data-time="1466869959"><p>Injured? I assume Leger to 14 & someone else taking his spot on the bench?</p></blockquote>
                                  Correct yes and popoali'i on the bench<br><br><br>
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                                    <p>Looks like the NZU20 team has had a visit from the injury bug. After Lowe and Stevenson being out injured, now Mikaele-Tu'u already off and Caleb Makene not looking well either. The commentator said there are only 2 backs on the bench.</p>

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                                      Makene off aswell<br><br><br>
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                                        Nz forwards looking very good so far<br><br><br>
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                                          <p>The injuries not stopping NZ from scoring tries. They're dominating Australia with 3 converted tries to 1: 21-7.</p>
                                          <p> </p>
                                          <p>By the way, I saw on the WR website that Italy beat Japan 41-17. That means that Japan will drop out of the tournament next year.</p>

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