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Bledisloe 2

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    Taylor still needs to learn to throw again. But he might get a place on the EOYT yet. I'd go for Aumua, with Eklund and Thompson on the AB XV tour.

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      @No-Quarter It's absolutely laughable, how you're trying to track my comments so you can try to catch me on an inconsistency. Whoop-de-do, you found one! Pat yourself on the back! Fantastic effort.

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      @Stargazer Clarke was faultless tonight. Jordan was very good, and made some outstanding attacking plays, but made some mistakes too. But you still singled out Clarke for criticism. Tighten up.

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      • TimT Tim

        @Stargazer Clarke was faultless tonight. Jordan was very good, and made some outstanding attacking plays, but made some mistakes too. But you still singled out Clarke for criticism. Tighten up.

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        @Tim LOL.

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          Just watched the match then read this. Staggered RM got mom. I thought he was rather patchy all night. Taylor was as well. And I thought I saw a bit of sloppy stuff from our flankers as well as some good stuff. May have to watch again as some clearly saw that differently. Still think that Frizzell and Cane have much more presence.
          Glad to finally see Jordie at 12. He made a huge difference to our momentum. Lomax and Retallick made huge efforts and Sam Whitelock not far behind.
          Well done to the ref tonite.

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          • KirwanK Kirwan

            @Chris said in Bledisloe 2:

            @Old-Samurai-Jack said in Bledisloe 2:

            Did the Aussies make meters up fat man's ally? Did they destroy our maul? Did they gain the advantage on the blindside? All nopes? I think Akira had a great game.

            Stuff has a different view

            Akira Ioane: Didn’t do much to solve any No 6 questions. Aside from a ripped ball near his own line, nothing much to catch the eye apart from showing his skills with a deft left-foot kick and speedy chase. Replaced in the 70th minute. 5.5

            Just a poor take.

            He defended well, used his bulk to move bodies, this fabled thing about him not using his shoulder is simply untrue. Several examples in this game alone.

            Played tight like many have been asked him to show he can and did it well. Was throwing players back in gang tackles like a beast. Was fun to watch.

            He’s particularly strong in the maul too.

            One opportunity out wide and showed good skill to earn the team a 5m scrum. Rest of the time he did what he said he’d do the press conference, the dirty work so Ardie could run out on the wing.

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            @Kirwan Also Akira was 3rd = highest tackle count with no misses (and 2 turnovers won). one tackle behind Whitelock in 2nd. Papalii was first with 19 tackles with no misses. In fact the sanzaar stats say that the only 2 forwards (including reserves) who missed any tackles were de Groot with 1 and Lomax with 5 (a work on for him).

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            • StargazerS Stargazer

              @No-Quarter It's absolutely laughable, how you're trying to track my comments so you can try to catch me on an inconsistency. Whoop-de-do, you found one! Pat yourself on the back! Fantastic effort.

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              Kirwan
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              @Stargazer said in Bledisloe 2:

              @No-Quarter It's absolutely laughable, how you're trying to track my comments so you can try to catch me on an inconsistency. Whoop-de-do, you found one! Pat yourself on the back! Fantastic effort.

              You could try being more positive, and recognising good play from non-Crusaders?

              Just a thought.

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              • KirwanK Kirwan

                @Stargazer said in Bledisloe 2:

                @No-Quarter It's absolutely laughable, how you're trying to track my comments so you can try to catch me on an inconsistency. Whoop-de-do, you found one! Pat yourself on the back! Fantastic effort.

                You could try being more positive, and recognising good play from non-Crusaders?

                Just a thought.

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                @Kirwan Jordie was my MotM.

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                • N Nevorian

                  RM Cadbury Man of Match.

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                  @Nevorian said in Bledisloe 2:

                  RM Cadbury Man of Match.

                  That’s two who think he’s chocolate

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                  • TimT Tim

                    The lift on Papalii at 2 minutes in was a red card. His head was put into the Australian player on the deck. Very clear.

                    That is as clear a red card as I have seen. Drove him head first into the ground.

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                    @Tim said in Bledisloe 2:

                    The lift on Papalii at 2 minutes in was a red card. His head was put into the Australian player on the deck. Very clear.

                    That is as clear a red card as I have seen. Drove him head first into the ground.

                    Andrew Porter. Darcy Swain, Jed Holloway.

                    Reds according to laws.

                    No idea how all three escaped.

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                    • MiketheSnowM MiketheSnow

                      @Nevorian said in Bledisloe 2:

                      RM Cadbury Man of Match.

                      That’s two who think he’s chocolate

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                      @MiketheSnow said in Bledisloe 2:

                      @Nevorian said in Bledisloe 2:

                      RM Cadbury Man of Match.

                      That’s two who think he’s chocolate

                      Haha well played.

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                        #1227

                        18 mins in, the double tackle of Papalii and Ioane was very good at slowing the ball down.

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                          Retallick's best game in years. Body position much lower, getting through the line instead of being driven back.

                          Nisbett got Ioane and Savea confused at least six times.

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                          • TimT Tim

                            Retallick's best game in years. Body position much lower, getting through the line instead of being driven back.

                            Nisbett got Ioane and Savea confused at least six times.

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                            @Tim said in Bledisloe 2:

                            Nisbett got Ioane and Savea confused at least six times.

                            Nisbett wasn’t alone. The Aussie commentators got them mixed up also.

                            How could they, Ardie is at least 5 or 6 inches taller than Akira.

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                            • TimT Tim

                              Retallick's best game in years. Body position much lower, getting through the line instead of being driven back.

                              Nisbett got Ioane and Savea confused at least six times.

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                              @Tim I'm wondering if he's put a bit more bulk on after his time away. He's always been a bit heavier than Whitelock but seemed leaner when he first got back from his stint in Japan. I'm stoked he's getting into some form, he's only 31 and even with the demands of the modern game that's middle aged for a tight forward.

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                              • TimT Tim

                                Retallick's best game in years. Body position much lower, getting through the line instead of being driven back.

                                Nisbett got Ioane and Savea confused at least six times.

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                                @Tim said in Bledisloe 2:

                                Retallick's best game in years. Body position much lower, getting through the line instead of being driven back.

                                Nisbett got Ioane and Savea confused at least six times.

                                You've been super judgemental but he's actually had a good international season. We, right now, have a very good 3 lock attack
                                Just keep one out of the 6 shirt

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                                • KirwanK Kirwan

                                  @Chris said in Bledisloe 2:

                                  @Old-Samurai-Jack said in Bledisloe 2:

                                  Did the Aussies make meters up fat man's ally? Did they destroy our maul? Did they gain the advantage on the blindside? All nopes? I think Akira had a great game.

                                  Stuff has a different view

                                  Akira Ioane: Didn’t do much to solve any No 6 questions. Aside from a ripped ball near his own line, nothing much to catch the eye apart from showing his skills with a deft left-foot kick and speedy chase. Replaced in the 70th minute. 5.5

                                  Just a poor take.

                                  He defended well, used his bulk to move bodies, this fabled thing about him not using his shoulder is simply untrue. Several examples in this game alone.

                                  Played tight like many have been asked him to show he can and did it well. Was throwing players back in gang tackles like a beast. Was fun to watch.

                                  He’s particularly strong in the maul too.

                                  One opportunity out wide and showed good skill to earn the team a 5m scrum. Rest of the time he did what he said he’d do the press conference, the dirty work so Ardie could run out on the wing.

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                                  @Kirwan said in Bledisloe 2:

                                  @Chris said in Bledisloe 2:

                                  @Old-Samurai-Jack said in Bledisloe 2:

                                  Did the Aussies make meters up fat man's ally? Did they destroy our maul? Did they gain the advantage on the blindside? All nopes? I think Akira had a great game.

                                  Stuff has a different view

                                  Akira Ioane: Didn’t do much to solve any No 6 questions. Aside from a ripped ball near his own line, nothing much to catch the eye apart from showing his skills with a deft left-foot kick and speedy chase. Replaced in the 70th minute. 5.5

                                  Just a poor take.

                                  He defended well, used his bulk to move bodies, this fabled thing about him not using his shoulder is simply untrue. Several examples in this game alone.

                                  Played tight like many have been asked him to show he can and did it well. Was throwing players back in gang tackles like a beast. Was fun to watch.

                                  He’s particularly strong in the maul too.

                                  One opportunity out wide and showed good skill to earn the team a 5m scrum. Rest of the time he did what he said he’d do the press conference, the dirty work so Ardie could run out on the wing.

                                  I didn’t see his game that way IMO he’s not the answer at 6

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                                    Akira Ioane's try saving tackle on Wilson at 30:35 was brilliant. Wilson had great low body position and pace, and Ioane had to get super low and turn him back from the line in the tackle.

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                                      Then a ball at 33. When Australia was hot on attack there was some defensive heat.

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                                        Taylor lost three or four lineouts in the first half. There is no way he can be a starting option again.

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                                          At 36:45 Ioane took the ball forward and there were no supporting players. They were all watching the previous ruck. I thought that he had gotten isolated, but he just had no reasonable level of support. We should have scored there.

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