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All Blacks XV 2022

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  • TheMojomanT TheMojoman

    @taniwharugby said in All Blacks XV:

    @gt12 unless Goodhue can find a yard or 2 of pace, which is unlikely given his injury history, I think International rugby may have passed him by, which is a shame as he has a good rugby brain..

    Unfortunately for Goodhue, injury has wrecked his career. Now with Jordie a legit option at 12 he falls further behind. 12 is probably the most log-jammed of positions - Jordie, Havili, ALB, RTS, Tupaea, Goodhue, PUJ, TUJ, Nankivell in that order if all are injury free.

    Goodhue seems to have gone down the size route, weighing in at 105KG at the moment. I don't think we'll see him getting any quicker or more agile given his knee injuries.

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    @TheMojoman said in All Blacks XV:

    @taniwharugby said in All Blacks XV:

    @gt12 unless Goodhue can find a yard or 2 of pace, which is unlikely given his injury history, I think International rugby may have passed him by, which is a shame as he has a good rugby brain..

    Unfortunately for Goodhue, injury has wrecked his career. Now with Jordie a legit option at 12 he falls further behind. 12 is probably the most log-jammed of positions - Jordie, Havili, ALB, RTS, Tupaea, Goodhue, PUJ, TUJ, Nankivell in that order if all are injury free.

    Goodhue seems to have gone down the size route, weighing in at 105KG at the moment. I don't think we'll see him getting any quicker or more agile given his knee injuries.

    Pfffft, Frans Steyn got fatter and fatter and still got picked for the Boks

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    • A ARHS

      I think they both lack some of the high end subtleties and skills needed for international level but show bursts of strong play at lower level. TUJ Procter and Sullivan seem to have a higher ceiling.

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      @ARHS said in All Blacks XV:

      Procter

      Is there another Procter running around NZ rugby that I haven't seen? Because that guy Billy is basic even at NPC.

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        Just further on Procter. I was saying pretty much the same thing about his brother at the same stage of his career and he turned out to be excellent, then buggered off, so give it 3 or so years I guess...

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        • BonesB Bones

          Just further on Procter. I was saying pretty much the same thing about his brother at the same stage of his career and he turned out to be excellent, then buggered off, so give it 3 or so years I guess...

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          @Bones said in All Blacks XV:

          Just further on Procter. I was saying pretty much the same thing about his brother at the same stage of his career and he turned out to be excellent, then buggered off, so give it 3 or so years I guess...

          Like his brother he offered little on attack. Good defender though. Both were / are good defenders

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            @Bones said in All Blacks XV:

            Just further on Procter. I was saying pretty much the same thing about his brother at the same stage of his career and he turned out to be excellent, then buggered off, so give it 3 or so years I guess...

            Like his brother he offered little on attack. Good defender though. Both were / are good defenders

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            @Winger his brother eventually turned into basically a Tamati Ellison clone. It took a long time though.

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              This tour could be great for providing game time for fringe ABs like RTS, Perofeta, Ross, Jacobson, Fakatava, and ALB.

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                Foster did make this comment:

                Because of their schedule and the need for them (All Blacks XV) to develop as a team, there would be minimal crossover between the sides.

                Some of the players @Tim mentions would be better to play regularly for this team rather than only play once for the ABs against Japan.

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                • BovidaeB Bovidae

                  Foster did make this comment:

                  Because of their schedule and the need for them (All Blacks XV) to develop as a team, there would be minimal crossover between the sides.

                  Some of the players @Tim mentions would be better to play regularly for this team rather than only play once for the ABs against Japan.

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                  @Bovidae said in All Blacks XV:

                  Foster did make this comment:

                  Because of their schedule and the need for them (All Blacks XV) to develop as a team, there would be minimal crossover between the sides.

                  Some of the players @Tim mentions would be better to play regularly for this team rather than only play once for the ABs against Japan.

                  I very much agree with that, put them in as leaders of the XV for game time. It's a risk, with injury, for the ABs, but better for player development. Not like this year another loss means anything major ๐Ÿ˜‰

                  I don't see it happening sadly, I think the best will go with the ABs, rest with XV

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                    So just Canada and BaaBaas locked in so far?

                    I'm excited to see the talent available get an opportunity. A great reward for those performers from the NPC but also genuine opportunity for those on the bubble of test selection.

                    I have no idea what the other 2 opponents will be made up from. Surely the Euro clubs would be extremely averse to releasing players at this time of year. A French Barbarian selection would be fantastic though if they could make it happen.

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                    • F Frye

                      So just Canada and BaaBaas locked in so far?

                      I'm excited to see the talent available get an opportunity. A great reward for those performers from the NPC but also genuine opportunity for those on the bubble of test selection.

                      I have no idea what the other 2 opponents will be made up from. Surely the Euro clubs would be extremely averse to releasing players at this time of year. A French Barbarian selection would be fantastic though if they could make it happen.

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                      @Frye said in All Blacks XV:

                      So just Canada and BaaBaas locked in so far?

                      Ireland have announced this

                      Ireland โ€˜Aโ€™ will take on an All Blacks XV at the RDS in Dublin on the evening of Friday, November 4.
                      

                      I understand there is supposed to be one more fixture too.

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                      • TimT Tim

                        This tour could be great for providing game time for fringe ABs like RTS, Perofeta, Ross, Jacobson, Fakatava, and ALB.

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                        @Tim said in All Blacks XV:

                        This tour could be great for providing game time for fringe ABs like RTS, Perofeta, Ross, Jacobson, Fakatava, and ALB.

                        I see what you did there ๐Ÿ˜€

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                        • ACT CrusaderA ACT Crusader

                          @Tim said in All Blacks XV:

                          This tour could be great for providing game time for fringe ABs like RTS, Perofeta, Ross, Jacobson, Fakatava, and ALB.

                          I see what you did there ๐Ÿ˜€

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                          @ACT-Crusader said in All Blacks XV:

                          @Tim said in All Blacks XV:

                          This tour could be great for providing game time for fringe ABs like RTS, Perofeta, Ross, Jacobson, Fakatava, and ALB.

                          I see what you did there ๐Ÿ˜€

                          He did use a comma, so perhaps he meant all of the others were fringe and ALB was not?

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                            @canefan either way it doesnโ€™t matter. ALB is a 50+ test AB and if he can run and play then he should be with the ABs. Other than injury he has been a mainstay in the 23 since 2016.

                            If R Ioane was coming back from injury I doubt they would be putting him in an B team for a run or to get match fit.

                            Iโ€™d put Faingaโ€™anuku in the AB XV side and ALB straight back into the ABs.

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                              The Japan AB test seems ideal to get ALB some minutes.

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                                Without being nasty about it. he is short of a gallop.

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                                • S SBW1

                                  @Chris-B Very surprised he is not being looked at by the Crusaders given that he is playing for Ta$man. He is quite a unit.

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                                  @SBW1 said in All Blacks XV:

                                  @Chris-B Very surprised he is not being looked at by the Crusaders given that he is playing for Ta$man. He is quite a unit.

                                  Seems to have improved significantly over the past year to 18 months. He may well already be locked in with MP - if they're smart he will be.

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                                    @SBW1 said in All Blacks XV:

                                    @Chris-B Very surprised he is not being looked at by the Crusaders given that he is playing for Ta$man. He is quite a unit.

                                    Seems to have improved significantly over the past year to 18 months. He may well already be locked in with MP - if they're smart he will be.

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                                    @Chris-B said in All Blacks XV:

                                    @SBW1 said in All Blacks XV:

                                    @Chris-B Very surprised he is not being looked at by the Crusaders given that he is playing for Ta$man. He is quite a unit.

                                    Seems to have improved significantly over the past year to 18 months. He may well already be locked in with MP - if they're smart he will be.

                                    Yeah resigned with MP for 2023.

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                                      Like to see Poihipi get run with XV. Lovely steps for that try vs Auks.

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                                      • ChrisC Chris

                                        @Chris-B said in All Blacks XV:

                                        @SBW1 said in All Blacks XV:

                                        @Chris-B Very surprised he is not being looked at by the Crusaders given that he is playing for Ta$man. He is quite a unit.

                                        Seems to have improved significantly over the past year to 18 months. He may well already be locked in with MP - if they're smart he will be.

                                        Yeah resigned with MP for 2023.

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                                        @Chris https://moanapasifika.co.nz/moana-pasifika-retain-strong-talent-for-2023-super-rugby-pacific-season/#:~:text=Moana Pasifika retain strong talent for 2023 Super,Taefu%2C for the 2023 Super Rugby Pacific Season.

                                        Says he is signed for next year and was a vital part of their squad with the most amount of MVPs.

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