The hot takes and unpopular opinions
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@antipodean said in The hot takes and unpopular opinions:
@MN5 said in The hot takes and unpopular opinions:
@antipodean said in The hot takes and unpopular opinions:
@MN5 said in The hot takes and unpopular opinions:
@antipodean said in The hot takes and unpopular opinions:
@broughie said in The hot takes and unpopular opinions:
Jazz is too complicated for the average bear but their are some good catchy stuff like:
The better I become as a musician, the more I like (good) jazz.
Saying you’re a good muso is such a “jazz” thing.
I didn't say I was good, just that I was getting better.
Same thing. I bet you hit “wrong” notes and blame all the guys you’re jamming with
I call that bit jazz.
Actually that reminded me the first time I tried drumming, and the guitarist who was much, much better at keeping time than I was (and was probably half my weight) was so incensed I thought he was going to hit me.
Nobody does jazz like these guys
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This thread had too much agreement going on..
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@MN5 said in The hot takes and unpopular opinions:
@Rancid-Schnitzel said in The hot takes and unpopular opinions:
@Frank said in The hot takes and unpopular opinions:
Robin Williams was never that funny. (1 in 10 jokes landed)
Nick Cave is pretentious as fuck.
Friends was weak American comedy, still is American comedy, and will always be weak American comedy.
John Cleese has not even been mildly funny since A Fish Called Wanda.
British gameshows with comedians on them generally add up to way less than the sum of their parts.
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Totally agree. Actually liked him alot as a dramatic actor but was painfully unfunny sometimes.
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No shit.
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Nail on head. Some scenes are genuinely funny but God so much shit. That Phoebe was so crap.
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Probably. Couldn't tell you what he's been in since other than that pitiful zoo film. I think he may have voiced a Shrek film as well.
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Disagree. Some absolute crackers.
Joey was good value. Chandler was too on occasion. Ross was just a dick ( and actually not a nice person either ? )
Monica and Rachel at least had the hot thing going and they had their moments. Couldn’t agree more about Phoebe, I think I’d rather have my fingernails ripped out than catch up with my friends and listen to her sing in a cafe.
My understanding is that David Schwimmer (Ross) was the one that got equal pay for all the actors and their big paychecks so I assume they all love him. My wife loves the show so plenty of friends references in our playful dialogue.
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@chimoaus said in The hot takes and unpopular opinions:
@MN5 said in The hot takes and unpopular opinions:
@Rancid-Schnitzel said in The hot takes and unpopular opinions:
@Frank said in The hot takes and unpopular opinions:
Robin Williams was never that funny. (1 in 10 jokes landed)
Nick Cave is pretentious as fuck.
Friends was weak American comedy, still is American comedy, and will always be weak American comedy.
John Cleese has not even been mildly funny since A Fish Called Wanda.
British gameshows with comedians on them generally add up to way less than the sum of their parts.
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Totally agree. Actually liked him alot as a dramatic actor but was painfully unfunny sometimes.
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No shit.
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Nail on head. Some scenes are genuinely funny but God so much shit. That Phoebe was so crap.
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Probably. Couldn't tell you what he's been in since other than that pitiful zoo film. I think he may have voiced a Shrek film as well.
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Disagree. Some absolute crackers.
Joey was good value. Chandler was too on occasion. Ross was just a dick ( and actually not a nice person either ? )
Monica and Rachel at least had the hot thing going and they had their moments. Couldn’t agree more about Phoebe, I think I’d rather have my fingernails ripped out than catch up with my friends and listen to her sing in a cafe.
My understanding is that David Schwimmer (Ross) was the one that got equal pay for all the actors and their big paychecks so I assume they all love him. My wife loves the show so plenty of friends references in our playful dialogue.
How I met your mother was a superior show using a similar format. But Friends' impact on popular culture was greater
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I could take or leave Robin Williams
Off the top of my head, cant think of anything Nick Cave has done (although I am sure I have heard plenty of his stuff)
I liked Friends.
Loved Fish called Wanda
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@Crucial said in The hot takes and unpopular opinions:
@MN5 said in The hot takes and unpopular opinions:
@Crucial said in The hot takes and unpopular opinions:
This album is a good one for some accessible jazz
Lester Nygard has gone hipster
But wait, there's more!
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@JC said in The hot takes and unpopular opinions:
@scribe I would give that two upvotes if I could. Jazz. Niiice.
You misspelled Jaaaazz.
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Robin Williams
- Never thought he was funny
- Just an early version of Jim Carrey. Screwing up one's face and making funny voices - does not a comic make.
Nick Cave
- Pretentious - yes - but not sure it's a particularly hot take... pretty much been his persona, with the Bad Seeds at least,
- But - fucking good. I get that some people don't like his music, but...
- One of the best live performers I've ever seen
- Somehow, he takes one of his "dirges", and transforms it into a stadium anthem. I fucking like his stuff, but still don't understand how he does that
Friends
- Again - I don't think any dislike of this is a particularly hot take
- It is the epitomy of mainstream low-risk low-reward US sitcom
- It is the Butter Chicken of sitcoms.
John Cleese
- Not sure I've seen, heard of, definitely not paid any attention to - any of his stuff since Wanda
- So - happy to take the Fern consensus, and not go searching for any of it
British Comedy Panel-Shows
- Have I Got News For You - is terrible. Only ever redeemed by getting somebody amusing as a guest host.
- Most of the others - I actually enjoy. Sure - they're a bit hit-and-miss, which one would expect due to the format.
- Mock The Week is vastly funnier than HIGNFY for "current events"
- 8 out of 10 Cats was good, and 8 out of 10 Cats does Countdown works surprisingly well mostly (except for the "wacky skits")
- Would I Lie To You was usually good - especially whenever Bob Mortimer was involved. The fucking anecdotes that guy has.
- TaskMaster - had its moments.
- Oh - and I was going to say I really miss Never Mind the Buzzcocks - but see they've revived it. Sweet.
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@Kruse said in The hot takes and unpopular opinions:
Robin Williams
- Never thought he was funny
- Just an early version of Jim Carrey. Screwing up one's face and making funny voices - does not a comic make.
Nick Cave
- Pretentious - yes - but not sure it's a particularly hot take... pretty much been his persona, with the Bad Seeds at least,
- But - fucking good. I get that some people don't like his music, but...
- One of the best live performers I've ever seen
- Somehow, he takes one of his "dirges", and transforms it into a stadium anthem. I fucking like his stuff, but still don't understand how he does that
Friends
- Again - I don't think any dislike of this is a particularly hot take
- It is the epitomy of mainstream low-risk low-reward US sitcom
- It is the Butter Chicken of sitcoms.
John Cleese
- Not sure I've seen, heard of, definitely not paid any attention to - any of his stuff since Wanda
- So - happy to take the Fern consensus, and not go searching for any of it
British Comedy Panel-Shows
- Have I Got News For You - is terrible. Only ever redeemed by getting somebody amusing as a guest host.
- Most of the others - I actually enjoy. Sure - they're a bit hit-and-miss, which one would expect due to the format.
- Mock The Week is vastly funnier than HIGNFY for "current events"
- 8 out of 10 Cats was good, and 8 out of 10 Cats does Countdown works surprisingly well mostly (except for the "wacky skits")
- Would I Lie To You was usually good - especially whenever Bob Mortimer was involved. The fucking anecdotes that guy has.
- TaskMaster - had its moments.
- Oh - and I was going to say I really miss Never Mind the Buzzcocks - but see they've revived it. Sweet.
The Butter Chicken of sitcoms - that's very good mate
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@Crucial said in The hot takes and unpopular opinions:
@Machpants I won’t ask how you even new that existed
Reeves and Mortimer, now there's a guarantee of satisfaction
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@Kruse said in The hot takes and unpopular opinions:
Robin Williams
- Never thought he was funny
- Just an early version of Jim Carrey. Screwing up one's face and making funny voices - does not a comic make.
Nick Cave
- Pretentious - yes - but not sure it's a particularly hot take... pretty much been his persona, with the Bad Seeds at least,
- But - fucking good. I get that some people don't like his music, but...
- One of the best live performers I've ever seen
- Somehow, he takes one of his "dirges", and transforms it into a stadium anthem. I fucking like his stuff, but still don't understand how he does that
Friends
- Again - I don't think any dislike of this is a particularly hot take
- It is the epitomy of mainstream low-risk low-reward US sitcom
- It is the Butter Chicken of sitcoms.
John Cleese
- Not sure I've seen, heard of, definitely not paid any attention to - any of his stuff since Wanda
- So - happy to take the Fern consensus, and not go searching for any of it
British Comedy Panel-Shows
- Have I Got News For You - is terrible. Only ever redeemed by getting somebody amusing as a guest host.
- Most of the others - I actually enjoy. Sure - they're a bit hit-and-miss, which one would expect due to the format.
- Mock The Week is vastly funnier than HIGNFY for "current events"
- 8 out of 10 Cats was good, and 8 out of 10 Cats does Countdown works surprisingly well mostly (except for the "wacky skits")
- Would I Lie To You was usually good - especially whenever Bob Mortimer was involved. The fucking anecdotes that guy has.
- TaskMaster - had its moments.
- Oh - and I was going to say I really miss Never Mind the Buzzcocks - but see they've revived it. Sweet.
I’m speaking ill of the dead I know but I could never stand this kinda shit from Robin Williams.
But still, he was better at what he did than Nick Cave.
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@voodoo said in The hot takes and unpopular opinions:
@Kruse said in The hot takes and unpopular opinions:
Robin Williams
- Never thought he was funny
- Just an early version of Jim Carrey. Screwing up one's face and making funny voices - does not a comic make.
Nick Cave
- Pretentious - yes - but not sure it's a particularly hot take... pretty much been his persona, with the Bad Seeds at least,
- But - fucking good. I get that some people don't like his music, but...
- One of the best live performers I've ever seen
- Somehow, he takes one of his "dirges", and transforms it into a stadium anthem. I fucking like his stuff, but still don't understand how he does that
Friends
- Again - I don't think any dislike of this is a particularly hot take
- It is the epitomy of mainstream low-risk low-reward US sitcom
- It is the Butter Chicken of sitcoms.
John Cleese
- Not sure I've seen, heard of, definitely not paid any attention to - any of his stuff since Wanda
- So - happy to take the Fern consensus, and not go searching for any of it
British Comedy Panel-Shows
- Have I Got News For You - is terrible. Only ever redeemed by getting somebody amusing as a guest host.
- Most of the others - I actually enjoy. Sure - they're a bit hit-and-miss, which one would expect due to the format.
- Mock The Week is vastly funnier than HIGNFY for "current events"
- 8 out of 10 Cats was good, and 8 out of 10 Cats does Countdown works surprisingly well mostly (except for the "wacky skits")
- Would I Lie To You was usually good - especially whenever Bob Mortimer was involved. The fucking anecdotes that guy has.
- TaskMaster - had its moments.
- Oh - and I was going to say I really miss Never Mind the Buzzcocks - but see they've revived it. Sweet.
The Butter Chicken of sitcoms - that's very good mate
I like butter chicken
And Friends -
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Friends was great for what it was. Millions of fans can't all be totally wrong. But I much prefer vindaloo to butter chicken.
I never enjoyed Robin Williams as a comic, though he was great in Good Will Hunting and GMV.
No opinion on Nick Cave.
Liked Faulty Towers (noting it'd never get nade these days), never got into Monty Python though.
QI was great. Would I Lie to You is awesome.
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Popular doesn't equal good.
Rolling Stone magazine recently released their Top 100 TV shows. The list includes series and talk shows, and is US-centric. Like all polls, I don't take these too seriously.
The Top 10 was:
- The Sopranos
- The Simpsons
- Breaking Bad
- The Wire
- Fleabag
- Seinfeld
- Mad Men
- Cheers
- Atlanta
- The Mary Tyler Moore Show
The 100 Greatest TV Shows of All Time
The definitive ranking of the 100 best shows in TV history, as determined by a poll of actors, producers, showrunners, critics, and the staff of Rolling Stone.
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I found Better Call Saul and Breaking Bad to have some periods of tedium in them.
It was very clever, but the endless lawyerly yappings of Saul, and the whining teenage victim cries of Jesse Pinkman (How could you do this Walt??????) got a bit boring.
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