All Blacks XV 2022
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@broughie said in All Blacks XV:
@Bovidae PT is not a consistent enough player to be a leader. Baffled!
Hopefully it means that TJ is only there in a supporting role. Good servant of the game but well past it.
@Crucial said in All Blacks XV:
@broughie said in All Blacks XV:
@Bovidae PT is not a consistent enough player to be a leader. Baffled!
Hopefully it means that TJ is only there in a supporting role. Good servant of the game but well past it.
leading the Haka....
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@Tim said in All Blacks XV:
Argh this is disappointing, way too many Cantabs in there. What has Brewis done? what has Dominic Gardener done apart from be solid? Lio-Willie aswell, really?
Guys like Caleb Delany, Peter Lakai, Justin Sangster, Devan Flanders, Kurt Eklund, Brayden Iose etc have all been way better than these guys.
It's pretty much a massive middle finger to the rest of the country.
@Canes4life said in All Blacks XV:
It's pretty much a massive middle finger to the rest of the country.
Plenty of motivation for some of those BOP players to prove a point this weekend.
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@Canes4life said in All Blacks XV:
@Tim said in All Blacks XV:
Argh this is disappointing, way too many Cantabs in there. What has Brewis done? what has Dominic Gardener done? Lio-Willie aswell, really?
Guys like Caleb Delany, Peter Lakai, Justin Sangster, Devan Flanders, Kurt Eklund, Brayden Iose etc have all been way better than these guys.
It's pretty much a massive middle finger to the rest of the country.
Come on man. We all know there are some touch and go selections. But, that is a top quality Hurricanes/Wellington, what about my players post. We all want 'our' players and certainly some of these selections are bullshit. But if the guys you wanted were named there would be a similar uproar!
@SouthernMann said in All Blacks XV:
@Canes4life said in All Blacks XV:
@Tim said in All Blacks XV:
Argh this is disappointing, way too many Cantabs in there. What has Brewis done? what has Dominic Gardener done? Lio-Willie aswell, really?
Guys like Caleb Delany, Peter Lakai, Justin Sangster, Devan Flanders, Kurt Eklund, Brayden Iose etc have all been way better than these guys.
It's pretty much a massive middle finger to the rest of the country.
Come on man. We all know there are some touch and go selections. But, that is a top quality Hurricanes/Wellington, what about my players post. We all want 'our' players and certainly some of these selections are bullshit. But if the guys you wanted were named there would be a similar uproar!
Touch and go lol? Brewis being selected is a joke. It's pretty obvious what players have been performing during Super/Npc and some of those players certainly aren't top calibre. Pretty ordinary tbh.
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@broughie said in All Blacks XV:
@Bovidae PT is not a consistent enough player to be a leader. Baffled!
Hopefully it means that TJ is only there in a supporting role. Good servant of the game but well past it.
@Crucial said in All Blacks XV:
@broughie said in All Blacks XV:
@Bovidae PT is not a consistent enough player to be a leader. Baffled!
Hopefully it means that TJ is only there in a supporting role. Good servant of the game but well past it.
He out-performed Weber on the weekend so what does that make Weber?
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@SouthernMann said in All Blacks XV:
@Canes4life said in All Blacks XV:
@Tim said in All Blacks XV:
Argh this is disappointing, way too many Cantabs in there. What has Brewis done? what has Dominic Gardener done? Lio-Willie aswell, really?
Guys like Caleb Delany, Peter Lakai, Justin Sangster, Devan Flanders, Kurt Eklund, Brayden Iose etc have all been way better than these guys.
It's pretty much a massive middle finger to the rest of the country.
Come on man. We all know there are some touch and go selections. But, that is a top quality Hurricanes/Wellington, what about my players post. We all want 'our' players and certainly some of these selections are bullshit. But if the guys you wanted were named there would be a similar uproar!
Touch and go lol? Brewis being selected is a joke. It's pretty obvious what players have been performing during Super/Npc and some of those players certainly aren't top calibre. Pretty ordinary tbh.
@Canes4life said in All Blacks XV:
Touch and go lol? Brewis being selected is a joke. It's pretty obvious what players have been performing during Super/Npc and some of those players certainly aren't top calibre. Pretty ordinary tbh.
Ryan and Feek seem to be working well with the props. If they see real potential in Brewis what's the problem?
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@SouthernMann said in All Blacks XV:
@Canes4life said in All Blacks XV:
@Tim said in All Blacks XV:
Argh this is disappointing, way too many Cantabs in there. What has Brewis done? what has Dominic Gardener done? Lio-Willie aswell, really?
Guys like Caleb Delany, Peter Lakai, Justin Sangster, Devan Flanders, Kurt Eklund, Brayden Iose etc have all been way better than these guys.
It's pretty much a massive middle finger to the rest of the country.
Come on man. We all know there are some touch and go selections. But, that is a top quality Hurricanes/Wellington, what about my players post. We all want 'our' players and certainly some of these selections are bullshit. But if the guys you wanted were named there would be a similar uproar!
Touch and go lol? Brewis being selected is a joke. It's pretty obvious what players have been performing during Super/Npc and some of those players certainly aren't top calibre. Pretty ordinary tbh.
@Canes4life said in All Blacks XV:
@SouthernMann said in All Blacks XV:
@Canes4life said in All Blacks XV:
@Tim said in All Blacks XV:
Argh this is disappointing, way too many Cantabs in there. What has Brewis done? what has Dominic Gardener done? Lio-Willie aswell, really?
Guys like Caleb Delany, Peter Lakai, Justin Sangster, Devan Flanders, Kurt Eklund, Brayden Iose etc have all been way better than these guys.
It's pretty much a massive middle finger to the rest of the country.
Come on man. We all know there are some touch and go selections. But, that is a top quality Hurricanes/Wellington, what about my players post. We all want 'our' players and certainly some of these selections are bullshit. But if the guys you wanted were named there would be a similar uproar!
Touch and go lol? Brewis being selected is a joke. It's pretty obvious what players have been performing during Super/Npc and some of those players certainly aren't top calibre. Pretty ordinary tbh.
As I said. Some selections are bullshit, and look to be rubber stamped by 2022 Crusaders forwards cosch Jason Ryan. But your players as just as much nobodies as those getting the business class tickets. Delany, Sangster, first year out of school Lakai, Iose and Flanders. They have decent futures. Just don't know if they are the ones stomping up and down going pick me. The Otago and Highlanders fan in me is amazed Nareki, our Umag-Jensen, Holland and even potentially Ainsley didn't get a look in. I just think you are having a laugh, just like the selectors with some of your names. I just feel sorry for big Pita Gus!
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My main issue that I have is that it seems like tbere is a big log jam in some franchises around identified players in some positions. NZR should encourage the players to move the players around. You can't be an All Black playing the Super season for Lincoln.
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@Canes4life said in All Blacks XV:
@SouthernMann said in All Blacks XV:
@Canes4life said in All Blacks XV:
@Tim said in All Blacks XV:
Argh this is disappointing, way too many Cantabs in there. What has Brewis done? what has Dominic Gardener done? Lio-Willie aswell, really?
Guys like Caleb Delany, Peter Lakai, Justin Sangster, Devan Flanders, Kurt Eklund, Brayden Iose etc have all been way better than these guys.
It's pretty much a massive middle finger to the rest of the country.
Come on man. We all know there are some touch and go selections. But, that is a top quality Hurricanes/Wellington, what about my players post. We all want 'our' players and certainly some of these selections are bullshit. But if the guys you wanted were named there would be a similar uproar!
Touch and go lol? Brewis being selected is a joke. It's pretty obvious what players have been performing during Super/Npc and some of those players certainly aren't top calibre. Pretty ordinary tbh.
As I said. Some selections are bullshit, and look to be rubber stamped by 2022 Crusaders forwards cosch Jason Ryan. But your players as just as much nobodies as those getting the business class tickets. Delany, Sangster, first year out of school Lakai, Iose and Flanders. They have decent futures. Just don't know if they are the ones stomping up and down going pick me. The Otago and Highlanders fan in me is amazed Nareki, our Umag-Jensen, Holland and even potentially Ainsley didn't get a look in. I just think you are having a laugh, just like the selectors with some of your names. I just feel sorry for big Pita Gus!
@SouthernMann said in All Blacks XV:
Nareki, our Umag-Jensen, Holland and even potentially Ainsley
yeah, Nareki, our Umaga-Jensen, Holland and even potentially Ainsley have all looked better than the players around them this year....but i was trying to control my bias
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@Crucial said in All Blacks XV:
@broughie said in All Blacks XV:
@Bovidae PT is not a consistent enough player to be a leader. Baffled!
Hopefully it means that TJ is only there in a supporting role. Good servant of the game but well past it.
He out-performed Weber on the weekend so what does that make Weber?
@Canes4life said in All Blacks XV:
@Crucial said in All Blacks XV:
@broughie said in All Blacks XV:
@Bovidae PT is not a consistent enough player to be a leader. Baffled!
Hopefully it means that TJ is only there in a supporting role. Good servant of the game but well past it.
He out-performed Weber on the weekend so what does that make Weber?
A halfback playing in a worse team? TJs pass is way too slow for international ruby now.
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@Canes4life said in All Blacks XV:
@Crucial said in All Blacks XV:
@broughie said in All Blacks XV:
@Bovidae PT is not a consistent enough player to be a leader. Baffled!
Hopefully it means that TJ is only there in a supporting role. Good servant of the game but well past it.
He out-performed Weber on the weekend so what does that make Weber?
A halfback playing in a worse team? TJs pass is way too slow for international ruby now.
@Crucial and at a level that barely makes a difference to the AB coaches anyway.
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@Canes4life said in All Blacks XV:
@SouthernMann said in All Blacks XV:
@Canes4life said in All Blacks XV:
@Tim said in All Blacks XV:
Argh this is disappointing, way too many Cantabs in there. What has Brewis done? what has Dominic Gardener done? Lio-Willie aswell, really?
Guys like Caleb Delany, Peter Lakai, Justin Sangster, Devan Flanders, Kurt Eklund, Brayden Iose etc have all been way better than these guys.
It's pretty much a massive middle finger to the rest of the country.
Come on man. We all know there are some touch and go selections. But, that is a top quality Hurricanes/Wellington, what about my players post. We all want 'our' players and certainly some of these selections are bullshit. But if the guys you wanted were named there would be a similar uproar!
Touch and go lol? Brewis being selected is a joke. It's pretty obvious what players have been performing during Super/Npc and some of those players certainly aren't top calibre. Pretty ordinary tbh.
As I said. Some selections are bullshit, and look to be rubber stamped by 2022 Crusaders forwards cosch Jason Ryan. But your players as just as much nobodies as those getting the business class tickets. Delany, Sangster, first year out of school Lakai, Iose and Flanders. They have decent futures. Just don't know if they are the ones stomping up and down going pick me. The Otago and Highlanders fan in me is amazed Nareki, our Umag-Jensen, Holland and even potentially Ainsley didn't get a look in. I just think you are having a laugh, just like the selectors with some of your names. I just feel sorry for big Pita Gus!
@SouthernMann said in All Blacks XV:
I just feel sorry for big Pita Gus!
yep, he never looked like a long term AB, and was in poor form when selected, I had similar misgivings when Seta Tamanivalu was selected for his handful of tests.
TBF though, I think wanted to represent NZ over Fiji, but still shit situation for him.
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@Canes4life said in All Blacks XV:
@Crucial said in All Blacks XV:
@broughie said in All Blacks XV:
@Bovidae PT is not a consistent enough player to be a leader. Baffled!
Hopefully it means that TJ is only there in a supporting role. Good servant of the game but well past it.
He out-performed Weber on the weekend so what does that make Weber?
A halfback playing in a worse team? TJs pass is way too slow for international ruby now.
@Crucial said in All Blacks XV:
@Canes4life said in All Blacks XV:
@Crucial said in All Blacks XV:
@broughie said in All Blacks XV:
@Bovidae PT is not a consistent enough player to be a leader. Baffled!
Hopefully it means that TJ is only there in a supporting role. Good servant of the game but well past it.
He out-performed Weber on the weekend so what does that make Weber?
A halfback playing in a worse team? TJs pass is way too slow for international ruby now.
Yeah but I don't think Weber is much chop now either. From those three I hope Roigard starts.
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@SouthernMann said in All Blacks XV:
I just feel sorry for big Pita Gus!
yep, he never looked like a long term AB, and was in poor form when selected, I had similar misgivings when Seta Tamanivalu was selected for his handful of tests.
TBF though, I think wanted to represent NZ over Fiji, but still shit situation for him.
@taniwharugby said in All Blacks XV:
@SouthernMann said in All Blacks XV:
I just feel sorry for big Pita Gus!
yep, he never looked like a long term AB, and was in poor form when selected, I had similar misgivings when Seta Tamanivalu was selected for his handful of tests.
TBF though, I think wanted to represent NZ over Fiji, but still shit situation for him.
thats fair, i think this selection just highlights the poor decision they made early in the year rather than this being particularly surprising or bad
whole international career down to 25 mins over 2 games including a try
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@SouthernMann said in All Blacks XV:
I just feel sorry for big Pita Gus!
yep, he never looked like a long term AB, and was in poor form when selected, I had similar misgivings when Seta Tamanivalu was selected for his handful of tests.
TBF though, I think wanted to represent NZ over Fiji, but still shit situation for him.
@taniwharugby said in All Blacks XV:
@SouthernMann said in All Blacks XV:
I just feel sorry for big Pita Gus!
yep, he never looked like a long term AB, and was in poor form when selected, I had similar misgivings when Seta Tamanivalu was selected for his handful of tests.
TBF though, I think wanted to represent NZ over Fiji, but still shit situation for him.
I just wonder whether these guys get decent advice, when they are eligible for multiple nations. Does someone have an honest conversation; you are probably not going to be a 50, 30 or even 15 test All Black. Will half a dozen caps fill your apetite for the black jersey. Or wpuld you rather play 50 tests for Fiji. In saying that, predictions around their futures in the test team can be hard to predict until they are out there, same with fit in the team environment. We alao don't know what has happened behind closed doors.
