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  • barbarianB Offline
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    #516

    <blockquote class="ipsBlockquote" data-author="canefan" data-cid="590701" data-time="1466641801">
    <div>
    <p>If I'm the GSW GM I'm playing hardball because Barnes did not shine at money time.  His no show in the finals would not have helped his value with other teams</p>
    </div>
    </blockquote>
    <p> </p>
    <p>No, that's right. But it's delicate. He is still a good player, who fits well in their system. And there aren't too many guys like him out there. </p>
    <p> </p>
    <p>So they won't offer top dollar (which he could probably get with the cap rise and the dearth of good free agents), but they won't hold back either. Three horrible games doesn't necessarily make him a horrible player.</p>
    <p> </p>
    <p>Talk is GSW will make a play for Dirk Nowitzki if they can't get Durant. Either guy would certainly fill a gap in their lineup- a big who can be a shooting threat anywhere on the court. Not sure Dirk would leave Dallas, like Durant and OKC.</p>

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    • BovidaeB Offline
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      #517

      <p>OKC makes a move:</p>
      <p> </p>
      <p>The Orlando Magic acquired forward Serge Ibaka in a multiplayer trade Thursday night with the Oklahoma City Thunder.  The Thunder received guard Victor Oladipo, forward Ersan Ilyasova and the rights to power forward Domantas Sabonis (son of Arvydas), who was taken with the 11th pick in the NBA draft on Thursday night.</p>
      <p> </p>
      <p>Sounds like a good deal for OKC.</p>

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      • barbarianB Offline
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        #518

        <p>That's a good trade for OKC. Rate Oladipo, and Ibaka clearly has regressed in the Thunder line-up the last few years.</p>

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        • ACT CrusaderA Offline
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          #519

          <p>Lakers will make a play for Barnes and he may still get close to a max deal.</p>

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          • raznomoreR Offline
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            #520

            Oladipo is a huge signing for OKC. If KD stays it has to be seen as a major coup. Ibaka had fallen off massively as an inside force. No they have great perimeter defender as well interior with adams <br><br>
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            • canefanC Offline
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              #521

              <blockquote class="ipsBlockquote" data-author="ACT Crusader" data-cid="591148" data-time="1466749145">
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              <p>Lakers will make a play for Barnes and he may still get close to a max deal.</p>
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              </blockquote>
              <p>Physically he ticks a lot of boxes but I'm not sure he is worth it based on his playoffs performance. </p>

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              • barbarianB Offline
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                #522

                <p>I just think Barnes will struggle being top or 2nd banana. He's been fourth banana at GSW, and struggled there. So taking big money to go to a shitty team (eg the Lakers), he gets the pressure that comes with it, the expectation that he should chalk up 20+ points a game. And I doubt he can handle that.</p>

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                • canefanC Offline
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                  wrote on last edited by
                  #523

                  <blockquote class="ipsBlockquote" data-author="barbarian" data-cid="591816" data-time="1466863393">
                  <div>
                  <p>I just think Barnes will struggle being top or 2nd banana. He's been fourth banana at GSW, and struggled there. So taking big money to go to a shitty team (eg the Lakers), he gets the pressure that comes with it, the expectation that he should chalk up 20+ points a game. And I doubt he can handle that.</p>
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                  </blockquote>
                  <p>As a Lakers supporter I don't want him there.  We need a strong locker room presence to try and help these kids along, Barnes doesn't strike me as being that guy</p>

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                  • Baron Silas GreenbackB Offline
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                    Baron Silas Greenback
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                    #524

                    <p>Jalen made an interesting point about the trade. If Durant resigns, and they get rid of a few pieces like Illyasova and Singler. Then they would have the chance to sign Horford. Donovan was hi college coach and they are tight.</p>
                    <p> </p>
                    <p>You would then have a lineup of</p>
                    <p>Durant</p>
                    <p>Westbrook</p>
                    <p>Horford</p>
                    <p>Roberson</p>
                    <p>Adams</p>
                    <p> </p>
                    <p>Oladipo</p>
                    <p>Kanter</p>
                    <p>Payne</p>
                    <p>Sabonis</p>
                    <p>Morrow</p>
                    <p>Collison</p>
                    <p>McGary</p>
                    <p> </p>
                    <p> </p>
                    <p>Now THAT is a great squad.</p>

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                    • canefanC Offline
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                      #525

                      <p>They could do with a knock down shooting guard to spread the floor.  Roberson can do a lot of things but he was exposed in the playoffs as a guy who can't shoot a high enough percentage from the arc.  Surely they can get someone who can park up on the 3 point line and drain 3's</p>

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                      • BovidaeB Offline
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                        #526

                        <p>There was talk of moving Roberson to PF, where his lack of outside shot wouldn't be such an issue.  He would be undersized but is very athletic and can rebound so it might work.</p>
                        <p> </p>
                        <p>BSG, no Waiters?  He is a free agent, but I'd expect OKC to re-sign him.</p>

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                        • Baron Silas GreenbackB Offline
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                          Baron Silas Greenback
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                          #527

                          <blockquote class="ipsBlockquote" data-author="Bovidae" data-cid="592205" data-time="1466991569">
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                          <p>There was talk of moving Roberson to PF, where his lack of outside shot wouldn't be such an issue.  He would be undersized but is very athletic and can rebound so it might work.</p>
                          <p> </p>
                          <p>BSG, no Waiters?  He is a free agent, but I'd expect OKC to re-sign him.</p>
                          </div>
                          </blockquote>
                          <p> </p>
                          <p> </p>
                          <p>Maybe, but if they want Horford... it is him or Kanter.</p>

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                            Spongebob

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                              <p><img src="https://images-na.ssl-images-amazon.com/images/I/312bnbSXerL._SX425_.jpg" alt="312bnbSXerL.SX425.jpg"></p>

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                              • canefanC Offline
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                                Take that man straight to In N Out burger!

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                                • BovidaeB Offline
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                                  Bovidae
                                  wrote on last edited by
                                  #531

                                  <p>Durant is going to meet with OKC, then 5 other teams (Warriors, Spurs, Heat, Celtics and Clippers).</p>
                                  <p> </p>
                                  <p>The smart money is for KD to sign a 1 yr deal with the Thunder and try to win it all next season.  Both he and Westbrook would be free agents in 2017.</p>

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                                  • Baron Silas GreenbackB Offline
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                                    Baron Silas Greenback
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                                    #532

                                    <p>OKC will be shitting brick now. Looks like Durant might be heading out of town.</p>
                                    <p> </p>
                                    <p>If he goes to Warriors, I will think a lot less of him. Just seems to be showing a quitters mentality.</p>
                                    <p>Is legacy would take a hit, as would his bank balance.</p>

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                                    • barbarianB Offline
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                                      #533

                                      <p>Seems like it's now a decision between GSW and OKC, though I haven't seen anything solid to suggest he's leaving.</p>
                                      <p> </p>
                                      <p>Not sure how him leaving OKC would be a 'quitters mentality'. He'd be chasing rings, pure and simple. And that in itself would define his legacy - if he wins said rings then the move will have been the right one. If not, he looks like an idiot.</p>
                                      <p> </p>
                                      <p>Unlike Lebron, Cleveland and 'the decision', KD doesn't have the 'home town' thing hanging over him, which gives him a little more freedom and means the backlash won't be as strong if he leaves.</p>
                                      <p> </p>
                                      <p>My money is still on him signing a one-year deal with OKC and giving it one last shake with a stronger roster.</p>

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                                        #534

                                        <p>dudes are getting paid this year. Some outrageous sums being thrown around at average players. </p>

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                                        • Baron Silas GreenbackB Offline
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                                          Baron Silas Greenback
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                                          #535

                                          <blockquote class="ipsBlockquote" data-author="barbarian" data-cid="593891" data-time="1467608247">
                                          <div>
                                          <p>Seems like it's now a decision between GSW and OKC, though I haven't seen anything solid to suggest he's leaving.</p>
                                          <p> </p>
                                          <p>Not sure how him leaving OKC would be a 'quitters mentality'. He'd be chasing rings, pure and simple. And that in itself would define his legacy - if he wins said rings then the move will have been the right one. If not, he looks like an idiot.</p>
                                          <p> </p>
                                          <p>Unlike Lebron, Cleveland and 'the decision', KD doesn't have the 'home town' thing hanging over him, which gives him a little more freedom and means the backlash won't be as strong if he leaves.</p>
                                          <p> </p>
                                          <p>My money is still on him signing a one-year deal with OKC and giving it one last shake with a stronger roster.</p>
                                          </div>
                                          </blockquote>
                                          <p> </p>
                                          <p> </p>
                                          <p>I think it is showing that cannot be the guy to lead a contender to the title. He would be quitting on his team, a team that was within touching distance of the title.</p>
                                          <p>I dont have an issue in this way with him leaving for Boston, going to GSW is just a low move IMO.  I think he is getting bad advice if he does goes to GSW. But that will be proven in years to come. He wins a title? So what? They won a title without him, and they have the best regular season ever. </p>
                                          <p> </p>
                                          <p>It is a pro game, but this is just a bullshit move, I think you underestimate how the PR of this would go down. The backlash would be worse in long run. Le Bron didnt leave to a championship team, he contributed to building it.</p>

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