GOT - there will be spoilers
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<blockquote class="ipsBlockquote" data-author="Virgil" data-cid="590890" data-time="1466712247"><p>
Bastards have to be legitimised by the crown, also all of Roberts bastards were slaughtered by Joffery ( except Gendry)<br>
Reading into the 'history! Of GOT its definitely a grey area when it comes to bastards and if they have the right to rule. They tend to be very divisive, depends how well known and liked they are<br>
Jon Snow given what he has achieved would be accepted as the new Lord of Winterfell, though that depends on Sansa as technically she's next in line.</p></blockquote>
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Are we talking books or series? Robert still has at least one bastard in the Vale. I suspect Gendry will become lord of Stormsend in the series. -
<blockquote class="ipsBlockquote" data-author="Rancid Schnitzel" data-cid="590907" data-time="1466720407"><p>Are we talking books or series? Robert still has at least one bastard in the Vale. I suspect Gendry will become lord of Stormsend in the series.</p></blockquote>
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Tv show, but yeah in the books it's more detailed and complicated.<br><br>
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Tv show, but yeah in the books it's more detailed and complicated.<br><br>
Biggest difference being in the books is Dorne not being the cluster fuck of a mess that it is in the tv show.</p></blockquote>
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Yeah that has been an epic farkup. The Sand Snakes are an abomination. The stupid thing is that Dorne is in open rebellion against the crown and just murdered the sister of the King, but there hasn't been a word said about it. No, apparently Sersei was more concerned with capturing a castle in the riverlands. -
DON'T READ FURTHER IF YOU HAVEN'T SE N THE LAST EPISODE YET!<br><br>
Wow, Westeros is a lot different at the end of that episode than it was at the beginning.<br><br>
Queen Cersei screwed everybody, Queen Dani is on her way home with the Dothraki, Dornish, Greyjoys and Tyrells as allies, and Jon Snow is King in the North, although it looks like Littlefinger has got Sansa half convinced she should be head of House Stark and she could be his Queen on the Iron Throne. I can't work out if Jaime L is for or against his sister grabbing the throne...<br><br>
Jon Snow is confirmed as actually Ned Stark's nephew, presumably heir to the Baratheons.<br><br>
Oh and satisfying to see Walder Frey get his at the hands of Arya. Nice detail with his sons cooked in a pie, shades of Thyestes.<br><br>
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Was a pretty good episode. Didn't see that massacre coming. Just one thing re your summary. Johns father must be Raegar Targaryan. If they legally married then John has a better claim to the IT than Dany.
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<blockquote class="ipsBlockquote" data-author="Rancid Schnitzel" data-cid="592263" data-time="1467003311"><p>Was a pretty good episode. Didn't see that massacre coming. Just one thing re your summary. Johns father must be Raegar Targaryan. If they legally married then John has a better claim to the IT than Dany.</p></blockquote>
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Doh. I meant Targaryan. Yeah, that's the one.<br><br>
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Doh. I meant Targaryan. Yeah, that's the one.<br><br>
Bloody hell though, Cersei is a cold, hard piece of work isn't she?</p></blockquote>
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A genuine ice bitch. Is Jamie now her king?<br><br>
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<blockquote class="ipsBlockquote" data-author="Rancid Schnitzel" data-cid="592295" data-time="1467009062"><p>A genuine ice bitch. Is Jamie now her king?<br>
That Tommen suicide was pretty funny. Did not see that coming.</p></blockquote>
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So Dani is aligned with Houses Tyrell and Martell and has half the IIslands, a Dothraki horde, and 10k unsullied. Oh yeah, she also has 3 dragons. You'd think Cersei is royally fucked. But the winter may balance things out big-time. I don't think any of those on the way over have ever experienced anything like what's coming.<br><br>
I'm intrigued about the Sansa-LF thing. He's obviously trying to drive a wedge between her and John. Very interesting.<br><br>
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<p><strong>R + L = J </strong>mutherfuckers<br>
Yeah great fucken episode, great to see Lady Mormont getting a chance to show what a badass she is<br>
So bitches ( oops sorry ladies I mean woman) doing it for themselves.</p>
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<p>Nerd. I had to look that up to have a clue what you're on about. :)</p>
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<p>I quite liked this episode, one of the better finales they've done (they usually blow their load in the penultimate and then have a place setter in the final).</p>
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Yeah was a pretty good episode...I will refer back to last page or two where someone mentioned travel,times....Varys went from Mereen to Dorne and back in an episode...That is a long period of travel I'd of thought?<br><br>
Lady Mormont was brilliant. <br><br>
Not sure what Sansa is up to given she wants Jon there, but LF wanting the iron throne is a bit of a surprise. Sansa is pregnant right? Surely Sansa won't want her kid growing knowing who it's father is so will need to latch onto someone?<br><br>
Glad the HS has gone, surprised the way it was done and the carnage involved....I wonder if when Jamie finds out what Cersei did lead to Tommens death he will finally see what a nasty bitch she isn't? <br><br>
Loved that scene with Bronn, knew it was gonna be Arya who got to Frey, thought it'd be simpler, so that was a nice twist. <br><br>
So it's confirmed about jons lineage, I wonder if Tyrion will be a long lost brother also? <br><br>
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<p>So it's confirmed about jons lineage, I wonder if Tyrion will be a long lost brother also?<br><br>
What part does Bran have, given it is likely he is the only one that knows Jons secret, although it wouldn't surprise if LF knew as well.</p>
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<p>Tyrion would be Jon (Snow) Targaryen's uncle not brother, if the rumors are true that Mad King Aerys <span>took certain liberties with Joanna Lannister as speculated by fans. The World of Fire and Ice does point toward it quite a bit. Although both would be bastards, unless Aerys legitimized them after they were born.</span></p> -
<p>I love it how that kid king just nonchantly jumped onto the window and then out. That made me laugh.</p>
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<blockquote class="ipsBlockquote" data-author="Hooroo" data-cid="592426" data-time="1467057464"><p>I love it how that kid king just nonchantly jumped onto the window and then out. That made me laugh.<br><br>
That fleet of ships looks impressive but who are they off to fight? Not the cold looking creatures that Snow is going to have to defend/attack against</p></blockquote>
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They are off to Westeros, can't see them heading directly into Kings Landing ( Blackwater Bay)<br>
Have to wait 9 months but assuming it will be somewhere a 'bit' safer to make land.<br>
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<p>Tyrion would be Jon (Snow) Targaryen's uncle not brother, if the rumors are true that Mad King Aerys <span>took certain liberties with Joanna Lannister as speculated by fans. The World of Fire and Ice does point toward it quite a bit. Although both would be bastards, unless Aerys legitimized them after they were born.</span></p>
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<p>ah yes...but it does explain how he was able to cruise up to the dragons when they were chained up with dragon blood coursing through his veins.</p>
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<p>I guess Tywin taking him as his 'monster' son was better than people knowing his wife shagged about on him.</p>
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<p>saw a comment on FB about how Tommen gave new meaning to Kings Landing.</p>
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<p>Heading to Dorne I imagine or somewhere south of Kings Landing to prepare? Varys was back on the boat after meeting up with the Sand Bitches and Grandma salty pants (love her put downs - gold).</p>
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<p>Now that was a good final, tied (fried) up some loose ends and was stoked to see Arya deal to Frey. Is she a free agent now with her powers or ???</p>
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<p>Like how LF didn't declare for Jon but actually shared his ambitions with Sansa - she seems to be keeping that option open while support Jon.</p>
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<p>Predicting that Jon, Danerys and Tyrion end up being the dragon riders, that'll probably be how they work out they are related as the dragons might balk at eating Jon if/when their respective armies meet. From there it's all go to fuck up the White Walkers. Maybe Bran plays a part in bringing them together as allies rather than fighting each other... Still not sure what will happen with Jamie and his sister. Surely their forces can't match the other armies that are building?</p>
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<p>The King finally grew a pair and took matters into his own hands. Guess he felt he'd helped create the situation - sucks that his missus didn't escape, she was smart enough to work out something was going down.</p>
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<p>And who knew sparrows have teeth (well knives!) take that you crusty old perv!! </p>
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<p>Haven't seen the episode yet but pretty excited about it, hoping to catch it tonight. Not sure where Sam fits in to a series finale. That tub of lard could vanish off the face of Westeros and the story wouldn't be adversely effected in the slightest.</p>
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<p>Interesting comment from Virg re the dragons, after causing carnage you would hope they'd get somewhere for a lie down on the bigger ships.</p>
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<p>Who lived and died ? ( again, I'm not someone who gets precious about spoilers )</p>
