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Hurricanes 2023

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  • WingerW Winger

    @Canes4life said in Hurricanes 2023:

    So Tosi is the 6th prop, Devery is the third hooker, and Gibson has been dropped.

    That squad is strong and I think we can definitely win the title. Need to keep key players fit though.

    Happy that Tyler has been kept. Gibson is a bit ordinary. And there are three+ 7 options now including Lakai & Savea

    Disappointing for Sheck but the other young wellington prop (Siale Lauaki) might replace Franks in 2024

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    @Winger said in Hurricanes 2023:

    @Canes4life said in Hurricanes 2023:

    So Tosi is the 6th prop, Devery is the third hooker, and Gibson has been dropped.

    That squad is strong and I think we can definitely win the title. Need to keep key players fit though.

    Happy that Tyler has been kept. Gibson is a bit ordinary. And there are three+ 7 options now including Lakai & Savea

    Disappointing for Sheck but the other young wellington prop (Siale Lauaki) might replace Franks in 2024

    There’s also Gus Brown coming through from Napier Boys High School who is someone the Canes will want to keep.

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      A few mentions of Lakai as 7 but he doesn't really look like a 7 to me. Doesn't play that way anyway.

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      • Canes4lifeC Canes4life

        @Winger said in Hurricanes 2023:

        @Canes4life said in Hurricanes 2023:

        So Tosi is the 6th prop, Devery is the third hooker, and Gibson has been dropped.

        That squad is strong and I think we can definitely win the title. Need to keep key players fit though.

        Happy that Tyler has been kept. Gibson is a bit ordinary. And there are three+ 7 options now including Lakai & Savea

        Disappointing for Sheck but the other young wellington prop (Siale Lauaki) might replace Franks in 2024

        There’s also Gus Brown coming through from Napier Boys High School who is someone the Canes will want to keep.

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        @Canes4life said in Hurricanes 2023:

        @Winger said in Hurricanes 2023:

        @Canes4life said in Hurricanes 2023:

        So Tosi is the 6th prop, Devery is the third hooker, and Gibson has been dropped.

        That squad is strong and I think we can definitely win the title. Need to keep key players fit though.

        Happy that Tyler has been kept. Gibson is a bit ordinary. And there are three+ 7 options now including Lakai & Savea

        Disappointing for Sheck but the other young wellington prop (Siale Lauaki) might replace Franks in 2024

        There’s also Gus Brown coming through from Napier Boys High School who is someone the Canes will want to keep.

        How did Tosi go this year? and Mafileo?

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        • KiwiMurphK KiwiMurph

          Big opportunity for Brett Cameron who has looked a better player since his overseas stint.

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          @KiwiMurph said in Hurricanes 2023:

          Big opportunity for Brett Cameron who has looked a better player since his overseas stint.

          Hope he steps up. Morgan and Love are not there yet. JGB was outstanding vs Auckland but ordinary in the final. But Morgan came on with 25 minutes left and was worse than JGB. He might be another player like JGB that can vary a lot week by week

          If both were always close to their best they would be good + super rugby players. Love might eventually get there but a long way to go still

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          • WingerW Winger

            @Canes4life said in Hurricanes 2023:

            @Winger said in Hurricanes 2023:

            @Canes4life said in Hurricanes 2023:

            So Tosi is the 6th prop, Devery is the third hooker, and Gibson has been dropped.

            That squad is strong and I think we can definitely win the title. Need to keep key players fit though.

            Happy that Tyler has been kept. Gibson is a bit ordinary. And there are three+ 7 options now including Lakai & Savea

            Disappointing for Sheck but the other young wellington prop (Siale Lauaki) might replace Franks in 2024

            There’s also Gus Brown coming through from Napier Boys High School who is someone the Canes will want to keep.

            How did Tosi go this year? and Mafileo?

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            @Winger said in Hurricanes 2023:

            @Canes4life said in Hurricanes 2023:

            @Winger said in Hurricanes 2023:

            @Canes4life said in Hurricanes 2023:

            So Tosi is the 6th prop, Devery is the third hooker, and Gibson has been dropped.

            That squad is strong and I think we can definitely win the title. Need to keep key players fit though.

            Happy that Tyler has been kept. Gibson is a bit ordinary. And there are three+ 7 options now including Lakai & Savea

            Disappointing for Sheck but the other young wellington prop (Siale Lauaki) might replace Franks in 2024

            There’s also Gus Brown coming through from Napier Boys High School who is someone the Canes will want to keep.

            How did Tosi go this year? and Mafileo?

            Mafileo has been called into the All Blacks XV after a strong year for the Canes and BOP.

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              Mafileo to play tight or loose head next year? Seems like tight head is much stronger at the scrum for the Hurricanes.

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              • WingerW Winger

                @KiwiMurph said in Hurricanes 2023:

                Big opportunity for Brett Cameron who has looked a better player since his overseas stint.

                Hope he steps up. Morgan and Love are not there yet. JGB was outstanding vs Auckland but ordinary in the final. But Morgan came on with 25 minutes left and was worse than JGB. He might be another player like JGB that can vary a lot week by week

                If both were always close to their best they would be good + super rugby players. Love might eventually get there but a long way to go still

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                @Winger said in Hurricanes 2023:

                @KiwiMurph said in Hurricanes 2023:

                Big opportunity for Brett Cameron who has looked a better player since his overseas stint.

                Hope he steps up. Morgan and Love are not there yet. JGB was outstanding vs Auckland but ordinary in the final. But Morgan came on with 25 minutes left and was worse than JGB. He might be another player like JGB that can vary a lot week by week

                If both were always close to their best they would be good + super rugby players. Love might eventually get there but a long way to go still

                Morgan was really consistent for the Lions this year, but I agree he had a bit of a shocker coming on in the final. I was impressed with the way he lead the Canes towards the back end of their campaign this year and I’d prefer him to start over Cameron. I think we’ll see them share the duties though tbh.

                The main weakness of Morgan is his kicking, all other areas of his game seem to be top notch so hopefully he can develop that part of his game in the off-season.

                I think Love will only come into 10 if needed. He’s been great at fullback for the Lions and it’s definitely his best position.

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                • TimT Tim

                  Mafileo to play tight or loose head next year? Seems like tight head is much stronger at the scrum for the Hurricanes.

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                  @Tim said in Hurricanes 2023:

                  Mafileo to play tight or loose head next year? Seems like tight head is much stronger at the scrum for the Hurricanes.

                  He can play both sides at a high level which is a huge asset.

                  He finished the year as starting loose-head for the Canes but played tight-head for Bay of Plenty.

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                    Sounds like Barrett will start the year off at 12:

                    https://www.msn.com/en-nz/sports/other/hurricanes-reveal-what-position-jordie-barrett-will-play-for-super-rugby-2023/ar-AA13nj8n?ocid=entnewsntp&cvid=0fd521e10ae74b19bec6942e576c4cd2

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                    • Canes4lifeC Canes4life

                      Sounds like Barrett will start the year off at 12:

                      https://www.msn.com/en-nz/sports/other/hurricanes-reveal-what-position-jordie-barrett-will-play-for-super-rugby-2023/ar-AA13nj8n?ocid=entnewsntp&cvid=0fd521e10ae74b19bec6942e576c4cd2

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                      @Canes4life Good. Hope he stays there.

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                      • KiwiMurphK KiwiMurph

                        @Canes4life Good. Hope he stays there.

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                        @KiwiMurph said in Hurricanes 2023:

                        @Canes4life Good. Hope he stays there.

                        If J Barrett ends up locking down the 12 jersey for both club and country, someone like Higgins might have to shift out one to accommodate. I think Higgins would go alright at centre anyway.

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                        • Canes4lifeC Canes4life

                          @KiwiMurph said in Hurricanes 2023:

                          @Canes4life Good. Hope he stays there.

                          If J Barrett ends up locking down the 12 jersey for both club and country, someone like Higgins might have to shift out one to accommodate. I think Higgins would go alright at centre anyway.

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                          @Canes4life In the meantime when Jordie is rested Higgins can get time at 12 - I would think in a World Cup year Jordie may have a few breaks.

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                          • KiwiMurphK KiwiMurph

                            @Canes4life In the meantime when Jordie is rested Higgins can get time at 12 - I would think in a World Cup year Jordie may have a few breaks.

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                            @KiwiMurph said in Hurricanes 2023:

                            @Canes4life In the meantime when Jordie is rested Higgins can get time at 12 - I would think in a World Cup year Jordie may have a few breaks.

                            Perfect opportunity to ease Higgins into Super Rugby even though he already looks ready.

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                            • Canes4lifeC Canes4life

                              @KiwiMurph said in Hurricanes 2023:

                              @Canes4life Good. Hope he stays there.

                              If J Barrett ends up locking down the 12 jersey for both club and country, someone like Higgins might have to shift out one to accommodate. I think Higgins would go alright at centre anyway.

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                              @Canes4life said in Hurricanes 2023:

                              @KiwiMurph said in Hurricanes 2023:

                              @Canes4life Good. Hope he stays there.

                              If J Barrett ends up locking down the 12 jersey for both club and country, someone like Higgins might have to shift out one to accommodate. I think Higgins would go alright at centre anyway.

                              By geez Canes have already got Sullivan and Proctor at 13, we pretty spoilt in midfield

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                              • Dan54D Dan54

                                @Canes4life said in Hurricanes 2023:

                                @KiwiMurph said in Hurricanes 2023:

                                @Canes4life Good. Hope he stays there.

                                If J Barrett ends up locking down the 12 jersey for both club and country, someone like Higgins might have to shift out one to accommodate. I think Higgins would go alright at centre anyway.

                                By geez Canes have already got Sullivan and Proctor at 13, we pretty spoilt in midfield

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                                @Dan54 said in Hurricanes 2023:

                                @Canes4life said in Hurricanes 2023:

                                @KiwiMurph said in Hurricanes 2023:

                                @Canes4life Good. Hope he stays there.

                                If J Barrett ends up locking down the 12 jersey for both club and country, someone like Higgins might have to shift out one to accommodate. I think Higgins would go alright at centre anyway.

                                By geez Canes have already got Sullivan and Proctor at 13, we pretty spoilt in midfield

                                and an All Black in PUJ (when fit).

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                                • KiwiMurphK KiwiMurph

                                  @Dan54 said in Hurricanes 2023:

                                  @Canes4life said in Hurricanes 2023:

                                  @KiwiMurph said in Hurricanes 2023:

                                  @Canes4life Good. Hope he stays there.

                                  If J Barrett ends up locking down the 12 jersey for both club and country, someone like Higgins might have to shift out one to accommodate. I think Higgins would go alright at centre anyway.

                                  By geez Canes have already got Sullivan and Proctor at 13, we pretty spoilt in midfield

                                  and an All Black in PUJ (when fit).

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                                  @KiwiMurph Yep mate, I just not as convinced about PUJ as some are, but regardless he does add good depth.

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                                  • Dan54D Dan54

                                    @Canes4life said in Hurricanes 2023:

                                    @KiwiMurph said in Hurricanes 2023:

                                    @Canes4life Good. Hope he stays there.

                                    If J Barrett ends up locking down the 12 jersey for both club and country, someone like Higgins might have to shift out one to accommodate. I think Higgins would go alright at centre anyway.

                                    By geez Canes have already got Sullivan and Proctor at 13, we pretty spoilt in midfield

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                                    @Dan54 said in Hurricanes 2023:

                                    @Canes4life said in Hurricanes 2023:

                                    @KiwiMurph said in Hurricanes 2023:

                                    @Canes4life Good. Hope he stays there.

                                    If J Barrett ends up locking down the 12 jersey for both club and country, someone like Higgins might have to shift out one to accommodate. I think Higgins would go alright at centre anyway.

                                    By geez Canes have already got Sullivan and Proctor at 13, we pretty spoilt in midfield

                                    I feel a bit sorry for Sullivan, he might have been better to stay at the Chiefs, and should definitely have gone to the Landers.

                                    Having said that, if he can't shake loose Proctor, maybe he isn't next level good anyway.

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                                      So after the dust has settled and we now know the squad for 2023 I feel like we can name two very solid 15s based off squad depth. There is going to be plenty of competition to get into that match day 23 towards the business end of the season which is always healthy. Some very good players are going to miss out but I’m sure injuries will strike.

                                      1st 15:

                                      1. Mafileo
                                      2. Aumua
                                      3. Lomax
                                      4. Sangster
                                      5. Walker-Leawere
                                      6. Delany
                                      7. Savea
                                      8. Lakai
                                      9. Perenara
                                      10. Morgan
                                      11. Rayasi
                                      12. Higgins
                                      13. Proctor
                                      14. Moorby
                                      15. Barrett

                                      2nd XV:

                                      1. Numia/Rakete-Stones
                                      2. Coles
                                      3. Franks
                                      4. Blackwell
                                      5. Bird
                                      6. Howden
                                      7. Kirifi
                                      8. Flanders
                                      9. Roigard
                                      10. Cameron
                                      11. Naholo
                                      12. Umaga-Jensen
                                      13. Sullivan
                                      14. Savea
                                      15. Love
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                                      • gt12G gt12

                                        @Dan54 said in Hurricanes 2023:

                                        @Canes4life said in Hurricanes 2023:

                                        @KiwiMurph said in Hurricanes 2023:

                                        @Canes4life Good. Hope he stays there.

                                        If J Barrett ends up locking down the 12 jersey for both club and country, someone like Higgins might have to shift out one to accommodate. I think Higgins would go alright at centre anyway.

                                        By geez Canes have already got Sullivan and Proctor at 13, we pretty spoilt in midfield

                                        I feel a bit sorry for Sullivan, he might have been better to stay at the Chiefs, and should definitely have gone to the Landers.

                                        Having said that, if he can't shake loose Proctor, maybe he isn't next level good anyway.

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                                        @gt12 said in Hurricanes 2023:

                                        @Dan54 said in Hurricanes 2023:

                                        @Canes4life said in Hurricanes 2023:

                                        @KiwiMurph said in Hurricanes 2023:

                                        @Canes4life Good. Hope he stays there.

                                        If J Barrett ends up locking down the 12 jersey for both club and country, someone like Higgins might have to shift out one to accommodate. I think Higgins would go alright at centre anyway.

                                        By geez Canes have already got Sullivan and Proctor at 13, we pretty spoilt in midfield

                                        I feel a bit sorry for Sullivan, he might have been better to stay at the Chiefs, and should definitely have gone to the Landers.

                                        Having said that, if he can't shake loose Proctor, maybe he isn't next level good anyway.

                                        Defence wins championships and Proctor has that over Sullivan which is why all these coaches keep picking him. Based on NPC form I would start Proctor over Sullivan.

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                                        • F foobaNZ

                                          @mikey07 surely we can do a whip around and buy out his contract?

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                                          @foobaNZ said in Hurricanes 2023:

                                          @mikey07 surely we can do a whip around and buy out his contract?

                                          Sounds like a plan 😂

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