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All Blacks XV 2022

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  • Crazy HorseC Crazy Horse

    @Crucial said in All Blacks XV:

    @Crazy-Horse said in All Blacks XV:

    @Crucial said in All Blacks XV:

    @Bovidae said in All Blacks XV:

    Kirifi should be the player to replace Harmon. Outplayed Christie in the NPC final and finished the season strongly. But Christie plays for Canterbury...

    Tuipulotu might end up being back with the ABs once the AB XV tour is finished.

    Will be quite the snub if Kirifi isnt called in IMO.

    So if RTS and Ennor are joining that that mean they push aside the midfield already there?

    The same Kirifi who is derided on here as being a useless dumb thug?

    I can’t recall reading any of that. Don’t think it is the general accepted view at all.
    I think he is limited as far as the top end of the game goes but otherwise is a busy effective player that has matured quite a bit in the last year and a bit.

    You don't? Even in the NPC final thread, a game in which he played pretty well, he was slagged off. Don't get me wrong, I like him and if given the chance he will give everything. Not saying you were one of the ones slagging him off over the last few years, but I find it amusing some are now calling for him to be selected. Hopefully they aren't the same posters who have been up him.

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    @Crazy-Horse said in All Blacks XV:

    @Crucial said in All Blacks XV:

    @Crazy-Horse said in All Blacks XV:

    @Crucial said in All Blacks XV:

    @Bovidae said in All Blacks XV:

    Kirifi should be the player to replace Harmon. Outplayed Christie in the NPC final and finished the season strongly. But Christie plays for Canterbury...

    Tuipulotu might end up being back with the ABs once the AB XV tour is finished.

    Will be quite the snub if Kirifi isnt called in IMO.

    So if RTS and Ennor are joining that that mean they push aside the midfield already there?

    The same Kirifi who is derided on here as being a useless dumb thug?

    I can’t recall reading any of that. Don’t think it is the general accepted view at all.
    I think he is limited as far as the top end of the game goes but otherwise is a busy effective player that has matured quite a bit in the last year and a bit.

    You don't? Even in the NPC final thread, a game in which he played pretty well, he was slagged off. Don't get me wrong, I like him and if given the chance he will give everything. Not saying you were one of the ones slagging him off over the last few years, but I find it amusing some are now calling for him to be selected. Hopefully they aren't the same posters who have been up him.

    Well I think only a couple of posters have called for him to be called up. Most likely not the same ones you are thinking of.

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    • StargazerS Stargazer

      Also posted in another thread:

      The All Blacks coach said Cane had suffered a fractured cheekbone in the match at National Stadium, while veteran hooker Coles has succumbed to a calf injury which had seen him a late scratching from Saturday’s test.

      Canterbury and Highlanders loose forward Billy Harmon, and Wellington, Hurricanes, and six-test hooker Asafo Aumua – both of whom were part of the All Blacks XV squad – have been called up for the remaining tests against Wales, Scotland and England.


      Foster also confirmed lock Patrick Tuipulotu and playmaker Damian McKenzie would rejoin the ABs XV squad, while winger Mark Telea – a late call-up after Leicester Fainga’anuku went home for family reasons – would stay on with the All Blacks as Will Jordan will stay on in New Zealand to get over his inner ear issue.

      So the AB XVs lose Harmon and Aumua, meaning that the AB XV are left with two hookers (McAlister and Thompson). Either Aumua will still be available to them in case of injury (if he doesn't get game time for the ABs), or they'll call up another hooker. You'd think that Eklund or Marshall will be the frontrunners.

      More interesting is the loose forward position. Of the loosies in this squad, Harmon was the only one who regularly plays at 7 (at least in Super Rugby). Will they call up a specialist 7? Tom Christie is probably the most likely selection if they want a specialist 7. Not sure who else.

      Interestingly, that article doesn't say whether Weber will stay with the ABs or will rejoin the ABXV squad. I hope they keep him with the ABs, because the alternative would be TJP.

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      @Stargazer somewhere I thought Eklund has already been called up. No?

      Aumua has to stay with the ABs to guard against a similar incident to yesterday.

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      • Canes4lifeC Canes4life

        @Crucial said in All Blacks XV:

        @Bovidae said in All Blacks XV:

        Kirifi should be the player to replace Harmon. Outplayed Christie in the NPC final and finished the season strongly. But Christie plays for Canterbury...

        Tuipulotu might end up being back with the ABs once the AB XV tour is finished.

        Will be quite the snub if Kirifi isnt called in IMO.

        So if RTS and Ennor are joining that that mean they push aside the midfield already there?

        100% has to be Kirifi but with Ryan in there as a selector it will end up being Christie.

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        @Canes4life said in All Blacks XV:

        @Crucial said in All Blacks XV:

        @Bovidae said in All Blacks XV:

        Kirifi should be the player to replace Harmon. Outplayed Christie in the NPC final and finished the season strongly. But Christie plays for Canterbury...

        Tuipulotu might end up being back with the ABs once the AB XV tour is finished.

        Will be quite the snub if Kirifi isnt called in IMO.

        So if RTS and Ennor are joining that that mean they push aside the midfield already there?

        100% has to be Kirifi but with Ryan in there as a selector it will end up being Christie.

        Meh it's much of a muchness. Two small 7s - one with horrendous discipline - and one who offers very little on one side of the ball.

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        • boobooB booboo

          @Stargazer somewhere I thought Eklund has already been called up. No?

          Aumua has to stay with the ABs to guard against a similar incident to yesterday.

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          @booboo Nope, Thompson was called up to replace Bell.

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          • StargazerS Stargazer

            @booboo Nope, Thompson was called up to replace Bell.

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            @Stargazer said in All Blacks XV:

            @booboo Nope, Thompson was called up to replace Bell.

            Who replaced McAlister?

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            • boobooB booboo

              @Stargazer said in All Blacks XV:

              @booboo Nope, Thompson was called up to replace Bell.

              Who replaced McAlister?

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              @booboo No one. He's still there.

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              • StargazerS Stargazer

                @booboo No one. He's still there.

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                @Stargazer said in All Blacks XV:

                @booboo No one. He's still there.

                Must have dreamt it

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                • boobooB booboo

                  @Stargazer said in All Blacks XV:

                  @booboo No one. He's still there.

                  Must have dreamt it

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                  @booboo No. Someone posted here that he was injured and was out of the squad. Obviously, that was incorrect. If he was injured at all, it can't have been bad.

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                  • Crazy HorseC Crazy Horse

                    @Crucial said in All Blacks XV:

                    @Crazy-Horse said in All Blacks XV:

                    @Crucial said in All Blacks XV:

                    @Bovidae said in All Blacks XV:

                    Kirifi should be the player to replace Harmon. Outplayed Christie in the NPC final and finished the season strongly. But Christie plays for Canterbury...

                    Tuipulotu might end up being back with the ABs once the AB XV tour is finished.

                    Will be quite the snub if Kirifi isnt called in IMO.

                    So if RTS and Ennor are joining that that mean they push aside the midfield already there?

                    The same Kirifi who is derided on here as being a useless dumb thug?

                    I can’t recall reading any of that. Don’t think it is the general accepted view at all.
                    I think he is limited as far as the top end of the game goes but otherwise is a busy effective player that has matured quite a bit in the last year and a bit.

                    You don't? Even in the NPC final thread, a game in which he played pretty well, he was slagged off. Don't get me wrong, I like him and if given the chance he will give everything. Not saying you were one of the ones slagging him off over the last few years, but I find it amusing some are now calling for him to be selected. Hopefully they aren't the same posters who have been up him.

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                    @Crazy-Horse that was me.

                    I also said i thought that final was the best he has played for some time, but I still think he is a douche, more on him in 2020/21 as @Stargazer said, including his covid breach...that said, the no dickhead rules disappeared some time ago, so there's that.

                    Harmon would be my choice.

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                      Would the last rugby player in NZ please turn be lights when they leave….

                      We are certainly getting down there in terms of the pecking order of players.

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                      • ACT CrusaderA ACT Crusader

                        Would the last rugby player in NZ please turn be lights when they leave….

                        We are certainly getting down there in terms of the pecking order of players.

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                        @ACT-Crusader said in All Blacks XV:

                        Would the last rugby player in Christchurch please turn be lights when they leave….

                        We are certainly getting down there in terms of the pecking order of players.

                        Fixed your spelling mistake.

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                        • NepiaN Nepia

                          @ACT-Crusader said in All Blacks XV:

                          Would the last rugby player in Christchurch please turn be lights when they leave….

                          We are certainly getting down there in terms of the pecking order of players.

                          Fixed your spelling mistake.

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                          @Nepia one All Blacks

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                            @Stargazer said in All Blacks XV:

                            @booboo No. Someone posted here that he was injured and was out of the squad. Obviously, that was incorrect. If he was injured at all, it can't have been bad.

                            Found the post where it was mentioned, couple of pages back. Talk of ACL ... Glad it's not.

                            Do think it's worth bringing in a third hooker as I think Aumua has to stay with ABs.

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                            • BovidaeB Bovidae

                              It's up to the players to make that personal decision, and you would hope that Aumua is getting the right advice from his agent etc. There are a number of midfielders ahead of him before he would get anywhere near the ABs.

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                              @Bovidae said in All Blacks XV:

                              It's up to the players to make that personal decision, and you would hope that Aumua is getting the right advice from his agent etc. There are a number of midfielders ahead of him before he would get anywhere near the ABs.

                              Every single AB midfielder on here has had their doubters or critics. ALB: 'vanilla"; JB: "one game"; RTS: "too old, out of position"; Havili: "too small, out of position"; Rieko: " better as a winger"; Ennor: "Ennor". Have I missed anyone?

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                              • TimT Tim

                                Guys, I really think that @ARHS might just have been joking about selecting an ancient and mediocre Canterbury player ...

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                                @Tim said in All Blacks XV:

                                Guys, I really think that @ARHS might just have been joking about selecting an ancient and mediocre Canterbury player ...

                                Piss-taking on the Fern. Ban the fluffybunny!

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                                • boobooB booboo

                                  @Stargazer said in All Blacks XV:

                                  @booboo No. Someone posted here that he was injured and was out of the squad. Obviously, that was incorrect. If he was injured at all, it can't have been bad.

                                  Found the post where it was mentioned, couple of pages back. Talk of ACL ... Glad it's not.

                                  Do think it's worth bringing in a third hooker as I think Aumua has to stay with ABs.

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                                  @booboo said in All Blacks XV:

                                  @Stargazer said in All Blacks XV:

                                  @booboo No. Someone posted here that he was injured and was out of the squad. Obviously, that was incorrect. If he was injured at all, it can't have been bad.

                                  Found the post where it was mentioned, couple of pages back. Talk of ACL ... Glad it's not.

                                  Do think it's worth bringing in a third hooker as I think Aumua has to stay with ABs.

                                  With Aumua staying with ABs, I thought another hooker would be brought in, like halfback you really need 3 in case of late injury etc.

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                                  • Dan54D Dan54

                                    @booboo said in All Blacks XV:

                                    @Stargazer said in All Blacks XV:

                                    @booboo No. Someone posted here that he was injured and was out of the squad. Obviously, that was incorrect. If he was injured at all, it can't have been bad.

                                    Found the post where it was mentioned, couple of pages back. Talk of ACL ... Glad it's not.

                                    Do think it's worth bringing in a third hooker as I think Aumua has to stay with ABs.

                                    With Aumua staying with ABs, I thought another hooker would be brought in, like halfback you really need 3 in case of late injury etc.

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                                    @Dan54 I suspect they'll bring in the ABs hooker/halfback who doesn't play for the ABs in the following test if the injury occurs before game day. In case of injuries occurring on game day/during warm-up, they'll probably expect the remaining hooker/halfback to play the full 80 minutes, with another player as cover - for example - Rakete-Stones as the emergency hooker (he played there at school) or Josh Ioane as the emergency halfback (Love to 10, Stevenson to 15).

                                    Anyway, maybe they have brought in new players, but are just late with the announcement.

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                                      https://twitter.com/AllBlacksXV/status/1587172561502314499

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                                      • StargazerS Stargazer

                                        @Dan54 I suspect they'll bring in the ABs hooker/halfback who doesn't play for the ABs in the following test if the injury occurs before game day. In case of injuries occurring on game day/during warm-up, they'll probably expect the remaining hooker/halfback to play the full 80 minutes, with another player as cover - for example - Rakete-Stones as the emergency hooker (he played there at school) or Josh Ioane as the emergency halfback (Love to 10, Stevenson to 15).

                                        Anyway, maybe they have brought in new players, but are just late with the announcement.

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                                        @Stargazer
                                        @Dan54

                                        Ratima is the third halfback in the squad. Hooker is really the only problem position, but maybe Aumua flies over to Dublin on game day and then returns to Cardiff.

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                                        • BovidaeB Bovidae

                                          @Stargazer
                                          @Dan54

                                          Ratima is the third halfback in the squad. Hooker is really the only problem position, but maybe Aumua flies over to Dublin on game day and then returns to Cardiff.

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                                          @Bovidae Yeah, true, the AB XV still have three halfbacks. It is a correct example for hooker though.

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