All Blacks vs Wales
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Just watched the replay , not perfect but a pass ,
Wales weren’t great so perspective needed there ,
Take the win though
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Just watched the game.
Much better team effort.
Our fwds really did the business. Big improvement on ruck accuracy.
Taylor was pretty good, still prefer Sami... But do like the impact he brings late in the game.
Both locks were very good.
Liked frizzel and AI tonight, thought AI was noticibly tighter when he came.Cane is surplus to requirement
CC was average, still headless chicken on D.
Would love to see ALB start with reiko to wing dropping CC.Thought Barnes officiated well.
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@African-Monkey said in All Blacks vs Wales:
I personally had no problem with how Frizzell or Akira went. People keep moaning about our problems there but apart from the dropped ball from kick off, Frizzell did ok and worked hard, and Akira was busy when he came on and made a good run at the end.
I think if anything, we're well served at 6. Maybe the coaches are starting to get the balance of our side right?
Akira was excellent when he came on.
@Joans-Town-Jones As much as I want Akira to succeed he's just a low energy player. He reminds me of my daughter playing soccer. He waddles around the field. Had to have a measure of fitness in 7's. What happened? He sure has some speed when I'm open space. Never lacks for fitness there. Nothing wrong with what he did but tired. Wonder if his psyche is damage from the dominant dude to riding the pine?
And Frizzell, wasn't running onto the ball so he was less effective. And while Blackadder has a better engine he makes little impression in the tackle. A thousand tackles and the other team is still moving forward.
Yes, @canefan, can a 6 step up and put in a dominant performance.
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@Hooroo said in All Blacks vs Wales:
Did Clarke do anything correct tonight??
All I recall were dropped balls and missed tackles? Likely the most ineffective winger we have ever had in a game?
Bad game for sure. He's a dangerous weapon but he just looks unsure of his role in the team right now.
@Joans-Town-Jones yes when we stay with the forward game those outside backs have to be brought into the game somehow around the rucks. I would not demote him yet but he has competition, which is good.
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I had that Irish prat on my streaming feed. Wales won that by 300 points until the final whistle and he actually gave some credit to the ABs.
I do now see a lot of merit starting with CT. Wales were just gassed by the 65th and ST carved up for fun. Jordie again at 12 was excellent. DP is a bigger attacking threat than SC. Adv. DP.
Cc doesn't appear to know what the game plan is or is just ineffective implementing it not helped by tits for hands.
AS just looks a better player when he snipes. Has it n his game but doesn't do it enough.
RM looks a lot more assured with JB outside him.
Finally got to see the BF vs France. What a ripper!
@Joans-Town-Jones said in All Blacks vs Wales:
I had that Irish prat on my streaming feed. Wales won that by 300 points until the final whistle and he actually gave some credit to the ABs.
You poor sod.
We had Andrew Cotter thankfully. Amazon coverage was average but the UK commentary was pretty good.
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This place is beginning to sound like Keo's with all the whinging about the refereeing. Not pointing out mistakes, or issues with the rules, but the allegations that only we are being screwed over.
If it is every game -- and from some on here it is every game -- then we are the problem, not the referees.
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Did Clarke do anything correct tonight??
All I recall were dropped balls and missed tackles? Likely the most ineffective winger we have ever had in a game?
@Hooroo said in All Blacks vs Wales:
Did Clarke do anything correct tonight??
All I recall were dropped balls and missed tackles? Likely the most ineffective winger we have ever had in a game?
Both wings were pretty ineffective but CC had a shocker. I would prefer RI to wing and ALB to 13.
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Full replay with Brit commentary -
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From the Welsh match day programme.
https://www.instagram.com/p/CklPt34JHkL/?igshid=YmMyMTA2M2Y=
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This place is beginning to sound like Keo's with all the whinging about the refereeing. Not pointing out mistakes, or issues with the rules, but the allegations that only we are being screwed over.
If it is every game -- and from some on here it is every game -- then we are the problem, not the referees.
@Chester-Draws said in All Blacks vs Wales:
This place is beginning to sound like Keo's with all the whinging about the refereeing. Not pointing out mistakes, or issues with the rules, but the allegations that only we are being screwed over.
If it is every game -- and from some on here it is every game -- then we are the problem, not the referees.
There were plenty of mistakes and people have definitely pointed them out. There was pointed criticism of BB, Clarke, Reece, Smith’s howler of a pass, our breakdown discipline, defensive pattern overall but particularly on that Welsh try, the awful lineout overthrow, Ardie’s dive almost costing a try, early ball handling, Frizell’s physicality, and loss of concentration.
So yeah, nah.
Barnes was inventing breakdown infringements for the ABs that he let Wales get away with. Fact. And despite looking multiple times at Tipuric’s ball control over the line, we waved the try through. He’s a mediocre ref.
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Must admit that was the most forward orientated performance I have seen in a long time and I have to say I loved it.
I'd love to see the stats on forward carries for the game vs the average for last few years. The pick and goes and just solid tight work laid the foundation for the pretty boys.
We had some obvious mistakes that need working on, but overall I was very happy with that.
6 is still not right IMO, looking forward to more of MMT and Gardiner, might be a bit late for them but love their workrates.
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@Daffy-Jaffy Geo-blocked in NZ
@Stargazer Oh, it wasn't initially. Good ole vpn to the UK works.
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Lomax and de Groot going well
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@Chester-Draws said in All Blacks vs Wales:
This place is beginning to sound like Keo's with all the whinging about the refereeing. Not pointing out mistakes, or issues with the rules, but the allegations that only we are being screwed over.
If it is every game -- and from some on here it is every game -- then we are the problem, not the referees.
There were plenty of mistakes and people have definitely pointed them out. There was pointed criticism of BB, Clarke, Reece, Smith’s howler of a pass, our breakdown discipline, defensive pattern overall but particularly on that Welsh try, the awful lineout overthrow, Ardie’s dive almost costing a try, early ball handling, Frizell’s physicality, and loss of concentration.
So yeah, nah.
Barnes was inventing breakdown infringements for the ABs that he let Wales get away with. Fact. And despite looking multiple times at Tipuric’s ball control over the line, we waved the try through. He’s a mediocre ref.
@JC said in All Blacks vs Wales:
Barnes was inventing breakdown infringements for the ABs that he let Wales get away with. Fact. And despite looking multiple times at Tipuric’s ball control over the line, we waved the try through. He’s a mediocre ref.
"Fact" eh? I think you prove my case.
The whole Tipuric "not having control" is a case in point. There is no requirement that a player have control of the ball to score a try. My copy of rules even has a picture showing that a person lying on the ball has scored. The only thing that matters is was the ball propelled forward from Tipuric's hand prior to the line, and so a knock-on. That he lost control in goal is utterly irrelevant (indeed the Try Law doesn't even mention the concept of control).
So bleating about the ref being an idiot, when you don't know the rules.
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@Joans-Town-Jones said in All Blacks vs Wales:
I had that Irish prat on my streaming feed. Wales won that by 300 points until the final whistle and he actually gave some credit to the ABs.
You poor sod.
We had Andrew Cotter thankfully. Amazon coverage was average but the UK commentary was pretty good.
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Just watched replay. Some great forward muscle. Ardie was an absolute beast. Was hoping that this tour would be something of a breakthrough for Frizell (maybe similar to Kaino laying waste 2010) but he's just not very effective.
Definitely not a day for the outside backs so I'll give CC a pass despite him looking like a headless chicken with tits for hands.
Jordie was solid as furk at 12. Massive difference with him there. Doubters again consume large portion of shįt burger.
