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<p>I read Johnny Cash's book at Xmas , he and Orbison were neighbours and good friends. Orbison lost his wife and four kids in a house fire the poor bugger .<br><br>
Bob Dylan shit? You won't be any less wrong when he dies so don't hold back on my account.</p>
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<p>He's even worse than the Stones and Beatles for overratedness in my eyes, I can actually name songs from both those bands I enjoy. I can't with Bob......</p>
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<p>Warbling lyrics and a voice like sandpaper, if he was the voice of that generation then colour me fucken relieved I was born much later.</p> -
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<p>He's even worse than the Stones and Beatles for overratedness in my eyes, I can actually name songs from both those bands I enjoy. I can't with Bob......</p>
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<p>Warbling lyrics and a voice like sandpaper, if he was the voice of that generation then colour me fucken relieved I was born much later.</p>
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<p>There's quite a few "legends" that I think are pretty poor. He's very near the top of the list. Clapton and G'n'R get credit for doing marginally less shit versions of "Knockin on Heavens Door"......Hendrix for doing the same with "All along the watchtower".....</p>
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<p>I don't own any Dylan albums and I wouldn't call myself a fan but describing him as shit or overrated is a huge call. </p>
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<p>It's one I've made and will stick to, in true fern fashion someone will probably jump all over my opinion, possibly even call me names but music is much harder to quantify than if I said "Richie was shit, Dan Braid would have so done much better given more chances"</p>
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<p>Perhaps he sounds better stoned or on Acid ? neither is an option so sorry Bob, you'll always be a cellar dweller in my eyes.</p> -
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<p>It's one I've made and will stick to, in true fern fashion someone will probably jump all over my opinion, possibly even call me names but music is much harder to quantify than if I said "Richie was shit, Dan Braid would have so done much better given more chances"</p>
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<p>Perhaps he sounds better stoned or on Acid ? neither is an option so sorry Bob, you'll be a cellar dweller in my eyes.</p>
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<p>Like I said , I'm not a fan . His music doesn't really do it for me either, but I don't think hes shit or overrated, I also don't care enough about him or his music to bother debating it.</p>
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<p>Like I said , I'm not a fan . His music doesn't really do it for me either, but I don't think hes shit or overrated, I also don't care enough about him or his music to bother debating it.</p>
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<p>Describe Bruce Springsteen as shit or overrated and prepare to join Davidav and WS90210 on my ignore list.</p>
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<p>"Sprung from cages out on highway nine,<br>
Chrome wheeled, fuel injected, and steppin' out over the line<br>
H-Oh, Baby this town rips the bones from your back<br>
It's a death trap, it's a suicide rap<br>
We gotta get out while we're young<br>
`Cause tramps like us, baby we were born to run"</p>
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<p>I remember a Summer holiday in Gizzy in 97-98, borrowing a mates brothers car and this was on the tapedeck, we may or may not have gone through every town in Poverty Bay blasting this shit out for all to hear, I never drove, I was too pissed.....</p>
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<p>Great album that, Darkness on the edge of town is another favourite. I've been listening to the ghost of Tom Joad a lot lately ,Galveston Bay, Sineloa Cowboys and the title track are just superb.</p>
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<p>That holiday really cemented my love for the boss, me and a car full of 20-21 year old blokes who up until then had listened to Rage, STP, Faith No More, Pearl Jam etc and dismissed Bruce as a relic from the 80s.</p> -
<p>Applauding Springsteen and rubbishing Dylan is like applauding the current AB's without acknowledging their history.<br>
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Sure Dylan's voice is no great shakes but similarly quoting Born to Run without understanding Dylan's contribution to modern music and particularly lyrical composition leaves you open to having one of dylans lines quoted at you "don't criticise what you can't understand"<br>
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Heres the Boss himself inducting Springsteen into the RnR Hall of Fame<br>
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<p>The first time that I heard Bob Dylan I was in the car with my mother, and we were listening to, I think, maybe WMCA, and on came that snare shot that sounded like somebody kicked open the door to your mind, from 'Like a Rolling Stone.' And my mother, who was - she was no stiff with rock and roll, she liked the music, she listened - she sat there for a minute, she looked at me, and she said, 'That guy can't sing.' But I knew she was wrong. I sat there, I didn't say nothin', but I knew that I was listening to the toughest voice that I had ever heard. It was lean, and it sounded somehow simultaneously young and adult, and I ran out and I bought the single.<br>
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And when I was a kid, Bob's voice somehow - it thrilled and scared me. It made me feel kind of irresponsibly innocent. And it still does. But it reached down and touched what little worldliness I think a 15-year-old kid, in high school, in New Jersey had in him at the time. Dylan was - he was a revolutionary, man, the way that Elvis freed your body, Bob freed your mind. And he showed us that just because the music was innately physical, it did not mean that it was anti-intellect. He had the vision and the talent to expand a pop song until it contained the whole world. He invented a new way a pop singer could sound. He broke through the limitations of what a recording artist could achieve, and he changed the face of rock and roll forever and ever. Without Bob, the Beatles wouldn't have made Sergeant Pepper, maybe the Beach Boys wouldn't have made Pet Sounds, the Sex Pistols wouldn't have made 'God Save the Queen,' U2 wouldn't have done 'Pride in the Name of Love,' Marvin Gaye wouldn't have done 'What's Goin'On,' Grandmaster Flash might not have done 'The Message,' and the Count Five could not have done 'Psychotic Reaction<br>
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So I'm just here tonight to say thanks, to say that I wouldn't be here without you, to say that there isn't a soul in this room who does not owe you their thanks. And to steal a line from one of your songs, whether you like it or not, 'you was the brother that I never had.' - See more at: <a data-ipb='nomediaparse' href='https://rockhall.com/inductees/bob-dylan/transcript/bruce-springsteen-on-dylan/#sthash.vrxjWdKt.dpuf'>https://rockhall.com/inductees/bob-dylan/transcript/bruce-springsteen-on-dylan/#sthash.vrxjWdKt.dpuf</a></p>
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​I'm not actually a great Dylan fan, it's probably years since I have bothered to play one of his songs but while I understand that everyone's tastes are different and lots of people won't like his music trash talking down his contribution / legacy is just dumb.<br>
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I love early Springsteen I bought Born to Run as an import before it was released in NZ but Dylan can conjure up amazing visions too<br>
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<p>How do you go from there to "We built this City"?</p>
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<p>Applauding Springsteen and rubbishing Dylan is like applauding the current AB's without acknowledging their history.<br>
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Sure Dylan's voice is no great shakes but similarly quoting Born to Run without understanding Dylan's contribution to modern music and particularly lyrical composition leaves you open to having one of dylans lines quoted at you "don't criticise what you can't understand"<br>
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Heres the Boss himself inducting Springsteen into the RnR Hall of Fame<br>
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​I'm not actually a great Dylan fan, it's probably years since I have bothered to play one of his songs but while I understand that everyone's tastes are different and lots of people won't like his music <strong>trash talking down his contribution / legacy is just dumb.</strong><br>
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I love early Springsteen I bought Born to Run as an import before it was released in NZ but Dylan can conjure up amazing visions too<br>
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I listen to almost all genres but have been trawling through my back catalogue recently and this was the last thing I played</p>
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<p>Well no, it's expressing an opinion. What music actually evolves into is often far superior than it's source.</p>
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<p>very fucking good point M4L - too much acid</p>
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<p>Cassidy and Kaukonen left and took their blues mojo to Hot Tuna</p>
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<p>Kantner and Slick married and went from psychedelic to psycho and got into the whole space ships from god buzz</p>
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<p>very fucking good point M4L - too much acid</p>
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<p>Cassidy and Kaukonen left and took their blues mojo to Hot Tuna</p>
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<p>Kantner and Slick married and went from psychedelic to psycho and got into the whole space ships from god buzz</p>
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<p><strong>That song (voted Rolling Stones worst song of the 80's) featured none of the Airplane members though.</strong></p>
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<p>Nope. Grace Slick sung co-lead vocals.</p>
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<p>I didn't realise she was out of rehab</p>
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<p>Makes sense I guess.</p>
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<p>I really had the hots for her back when I thought dying of an OD on the corner of Haight/Ashbury would be the coolest thing ever :idiot2:​</p>
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<p>dylan wrote the hell out of some songs - and if you don't like his voice, which i can understand - well luckily for you they have been covered a shitload because they're shit-hot - to the extent that unless you're a classical fanatic then you'll almost certainly be able to find an artist you already like singing a dylan song.</p>
