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The Current State of Rugby

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    Scotland v Fiji kicks off.

    60 seconds later we have our first yellow card.... Marvellous.

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      Scotland v Fiji kicks off.

      60 seconds later we have our first yellow card.... Marvellous.

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      @Steve said in The Current State of Rugby:

      Scotland v Fiji kicks off.

      60 seconds later we have our first yellow card.... Marvellous.

      As long as Berry is consistent throughout the match I have no problem with it

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        @Crazy-Horse said in The Current State of Rugby:

        @Frank said in The Current State of Rugby:

        @His-Bobness said in The Current State of Rugby:

        Meanwhile, in women’s rugby we see a glimpse of what used to be….

        They don't have the power to hurt each other.

        It"s relative isn't it? Compared to males they may be down on power, but I bet they can still hurt each other.

        They're also that little bit smaller (I imagine) so less momentum.

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        @nostrildamus well it is clear they have a separate framework for women's head contacts and even lifting tackles...basically anything to avoid a card especially red, while the men's appears anything to find one.

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          Be nice if World Rugby could get the refs to have some constancy in their interpretations of the breakdown.

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            Be nice if World Rugby could get the refs to have some constancy in their interpretations of the breakdown.

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            @sparky said in The Current State of Rugby:

            Be nice if World Rugby could get the refs to have some constancy in their interpretations of the breakdown.

            Its all over the place. Barnes was blowing for penalties today at the breakdown and when I looked at him he had his arm extended towards the opposite team to who I had interpreted had infringed.

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              @sparky said in The Current State of Rugby:

              Be nice if World Rugby could get the refs to have some constancy in their interpretations of the breakdown.

              Its all over the place. Barnes was blowing for penalties today at the breakdown and when I looked at him he had his arm extended towards the opposite team to who I had interpreted had infringed.

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              @Steve said in The Current State of Rugby:

              @sparky said in The Current State of Rugby:

              Be nice if World Rugby could get the refs to have some constancy in their interpretations of the breakdown.

              Its all over the place. Barnes was blowing for penalties today at the breakdown and when I looked at him he had his arm extended towards the opposite team to who I had interpreted had infringed.

              Barnes being the most experienced referee ever, he's probably correct most of the time

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                @Steve said in The Current State of Rugby:

                @sparky said in The Current State of Rugby:

                Be nice if World Rugby could get the refs to have some constancy in their interpretations of the breakdown.

                Its all over the place. Barnes was blowing for penalties today at the breakdown and when I looked at him he had his arm extended towards the opposite team to who I had interpreted had infringed.

                Barnes being the most experienced referee ever, he's probably correct most of the time

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                @Machpants said in The Current State of Rugby:

                @Steve said in The Current State of Rugby:

                @sparky said in The Current State of Rugby:

                Be nice if World Rugby could get the refs to have some constancy in their interpretations of the breakdown.

                Its all over the place. Barnes was blowing for penalties today at the breakdown and when I looked at him he had his arm extended towards the opposite team to who I had interpreted had infringed.

                Barnes being the most experienced referee ever, he's probably correct most of the time

                I had a chuckle when one of his first interactions with the game is his 100th was being hit with a pass. Must hold some record of getting in the way. His positioning has always been terrible.

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                • CrucialC Crucial

                  @Machpants said in The Current State of Rugby:

                  @Steve said in The Current State of Rugby:

                  @sparky said in The Current State of Rugby:

                  Be nice if World Rugby could get the refs to have some constancy in their interpretations of the breakdown.

                  Its all over the place. Barnes was blowing for penalties today at the breakdown and when I looked at him he had his arm extended towards the opposite team to who I had interpreted had infringed.

                  Barnes being the most experienced referee ever, he's probably correct most of the time

                  I had a chuckle when one of his first interactions with the game is his 100th was being hit with a pass. Must hold some record of getting in the way. His positioning has always been terrible.

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                  @Crucial said in The Current State of Rugby:

                  I had a chuckle when one of his first interactions with the game is his 100th was being hit with a pass. Must hold some record of getting in the way. His positioning has always been terrible.

                  The poor pass from Smith that Frizell knocked on was also due to Barnes getting out of the way so late.

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                    I don't want to see a red for Du Post or PSDT today.

                    PTSD was pushed by a team mate.

                    Du Pont had eyes on the ball the whole time and gets kneed in the face by a springbok who puts himself in danger by jumping.

                    I support neither team.

                    Game is gone to shite.

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                      I don't want to see a red for Du Post or PSDT today.

                      PTSD was pushed by a team mate.

                      Du Pont had eyes on the ball the whole time and gets kneed in the face by a springbok who puts himself in danger by jumping.

                      I support neither team.

                      Game is gone to shite.

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                      @Steve agree on the du Pont one, not the other, while I dont think it was filth or dirty as some have said, it was incredibly stupid and dangerous, I dont think his team mate pushing made any impact to his direction or how hard he hit the french guy

                      Oh, I will add, I dont agree with red cards sending you off for the rest of the game, and WR must find a better way to deal with this stuff.

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                      • S Steve

                        I don't want to see a red for Du Post or PSDT today.

                        PTSD was pushed by a team mate.

                        Du Pont had eyes on the ball the whole time and gets kneed in the face by a springbok who puts himself in danger by jumping.

                        I support neither team.

                        Game is gone to shite.

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                        Bones
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                        @Steve said in The Current State of Rugby:

                        Du Pont had eyes on the ball the whole time

                        Haven't seen the incident but that's the same as claiming you were looking at the speedo for fear of going over the limit and crashing.

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                        • BonesB Bones

                          @Steve said in The Current State of Rugby:

                          Du Pont had eyes on the ball the whole time

                          Haven't seen the incident but that's the same as claiming you were looking at the speedo for fear of going over the limit and crashing.

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                          @Bones it was pretty bad in that Cheslin landed pretty much on his head, failed his HIA i think, what Du pont didnt do, was jump, if he had leapt I think they were both in the space at the same time, both clearly able to contest, but du pont didnt jump, and went under Cheslin

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                            I don't want to see a red for Du Post or PSDT today.

                            PTSD was pushed by a team mate.

                            Du Pont had eyes on the ball the whole time and gets kneed in the face by a springbok who puts himself in danger by jumping.

                            I support neither team.

                            Game is gone to shite.

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                            @Steve said in The Current State of Rugby:

                            PTSD was pushed by a team mate.

                            Rubbish - the force in the push from the team mate was tiny - PTSD had control and decided to launch himself head first. Idiotic play deserved what it got.

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                              @Bones it was pretty bad in that Cheslin landed pretty much on his head, failed his HIA i think, what Du pont didnt do, was jump, if he had leapt I think they were both in the space at the same time, both clearly able to contest, but du pont didnt jump, and went under Cheslin

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                              @taniwharugby said in The Current State of Rugby:

                              @Bones it was pretty bad in that Cheslin landed pretty much on his head, failed his HIA i think, what Du pont didnt do, was jump, if he had leapt I think they were both in the space at the same time, both clearly able to contest, but du pont didnt jump, and went under Cheslin

                              I just can't buy guys running around a rugby field without a care of who's around or what's going on, especially at that level. It's not an excuse. To use another shitty analogy it's like jumping in the pool without looking. I mean, it's possible, but idiotic and you deserve anything coming your way if you fuck shit up.

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                                @taniwharugby said in The Current State of Rugby:

                                @Bones it was pretty bad in that Cheslin landed pretty much on his head, failed his HIA i think, what Du pont didnt do, was jump, if he had leapt I think they were both in the space at the same time, both clearly able to contest, but du pont didnt jump, and went under Cheslin

                                I just can't buy guys running around a rugby field without a care of who's around or what's going on, especially at that level. It's not an excuse. To use another shitty analogy it's like jumping in the pool without looking. I mean, it's possible, but idiotic and you deserve anything coming your way if you fuck shit up.

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                                @Bones said in The Current State of Rugby:

                                @taniwharugby said in The Current State of Rugby:

                                @Bones it was pretty bad in that Cheslin landed pretty much on his head, failed his HIA i think, what Du pont didnt do, was jump, if he had leapt I think they were both in the space at the same time, both clearly able to contest, but du pont didnt jump, and went under Cheslin

                                I just can't buy guys running around a rugby field without a care of who's around or what's going on, especially at that level. It's not an excuse. To use another shitty analogy it's like jumping in the pool without looking. I mean, it's possible, but idiotic and you deserve anything coming your way if you fuck shit up.

                                I don't subscribe to the implied theory Du Pont didn't care, he was focusing on the ball. I also disagreed with the refereeing team that he wasn't in a position to take the ball. If Cheslin hadn't jumped into that space, the accident would never have happened. But it seems that as long as you leave the ground, you no longer bear any responsibility. It's farcical.

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                                • antipodeanA antipodean

                                  @Bones said in The Current State of Rugby:

                                  @taniwharugby said in The Current State of Rugby:

                                  @Bones it was pretty bad in that Cheslin landed pretty much on his head, failed his HIA i think, what Du pont didnt do, was jump, if he had leapt I think they were both in the space at the same time, both clearly able to contest, but du pont didnt jump, and went under Cheslin

                                  I just can't buy guys running around a rugby field without a care of who's around or what's going on, especially at that level. It's not an excuse. To use another shitty analogy it's like jumping in the pool without looking. I mean, it's possible, but idiotic and you deserve anything coming your way if you fuck shit up.

                                  I don't subscribe to the implied theory Du Pont didn't care, he was focusing on the ball. I also disagreed with the refereeing team that he wasn't in a position to take the ball. If Cheslin hadn't jumped into that space, the accident would never have happened. But it seems that as long as you leave the ground, you no longer bear any responsibility. It's farcical.

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                                  @antipodean said in The Current State of Rugby:

                                  @Bones said in The Current State of Rugby:

                                  @taniwharugby said in The Current State of Rugby:

                                  @Bones it was pretty bad in that Cheslin landed pretty much on his head, failed his HIA i think, what Du pont didnt do, was jump, if he had leapt I think they were both in the space at the same time, both clearly able to contest, but du pont didnt jump, and went under Cheslin

                                  I just can't buy guys running around a rugby field without a care of who's around or what's going on, especially at that level. It's not an excuse. To use another shitty analogy it's like jumping in the pool without looking. I mean, it's possible, but idiotic and you deserve anything coming your way if you fuck shit up.

                                  I don't subscribe to the implied theory Du Pont didn't care, he was focusing on the ball. I also disagreed with the refereeing team that he wasn't in a position to take the ball. If Cheslin hadn't jumped into that space, the accident would never have happened. But it seems that as long as you leave the ground, you no longer bear any responsibility. It's farcical.

                                  Sadly, it's been like that for ages now and try arguing against it with any NH fans - they're fine with it.

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                                    @Bones said in The Current State of Rugby:

                                    @taniwharugby said in The Current State of Rugby:

                                    @Bones it was pretty bad in that Cheslin landed pretty much on his head, failed his HIA i think, what Du pont didnt do, was jump, if he had leapt I think they were both in the space at the same time, both clearly able to contest, but du pont didnt jump, and went under Cheslin

                                    I just can't buy guys running around a rugby field without a care of who's around or what's going on, especially at that level. It's not an excuse. To use another shitty analogy it's like jumping in the pool without looking. I mean, it's possible, but idiotic and you deserve anything coming your way if you fuck shit up.

                                    I don't subscribe to the implied theory Du Pont didn't care, he was focusing on the ball. I also disagreed with the refereeing team that he wasn't in a position to take the ball. If Cheslin hadn't jumped into that space, the accident would never have happened. But it seems that as long as you leave the ground, you no longer bear any responsibility. It's farcical.

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                                    @antipodean yep. His eyes were definitely on the ball. To me it was 50/50 and despite the Saffa landing on his head it merited nothing.

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                                      @Bones said in The Current State of Rugby:

                                      @taniwharugby said in The Current State of Rugby:

                                      @Bones it was pretty bad in that Cheslin landed pretty much on his head, failed his HIA i think, what Du pont didnt do, was jump, if he had leapt I think they were both in the space at the same time, both clearly able to contest, but du pont didnt jump, and went under Cheslin

                                      I just can't buy guys running around a rugby field without a care of who's around or what's going on, especially at that level. It's not an excuse. To use another shitty analogy it's like jumping in the pool without looking. I mean, it's possible, but idiotic and you deserve anything coming your way if you fuck shit up.

                                      I don't subscribe to the implied theory Du Pont didn't care, he was focusing on the ball. I also disagreed with the refereeing team that he wasn't in a position to take the ball. If Cheslin hadn't jumped into that space, the accident would never have happened. But it seems that as long as you leave the ground, you no longer bear any responsibility. It's farcical.

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                                      @antipodean said in The Current State of Rugby:

                                      @Bones said in The Current State of Rugby:

                                      @taniwharugby said in The Current State of Rugby:

                                      @Bones it was pretty bad in that Cheslin landed pretty much on his head, failed his HIA i think, what Du pont didnt do, was jump, if he had leapt I think they were both in the space at the same time, both clearly able to contest, but du pont didnt jump, and went under Cheslin

                                      I just can't buy guys running around a rugby field without a care of who's around or what's going on, especially at that level. It's not an excuse. To use another shitty analogy it's like jumping in the pool without looking. I mean, it's possible, but idiotic and you deserve anything coming your way if you fuck shit up.

                                      I don't subscribe to the implied theory Du Pont didn't care, he was focusing on the ball. I also disagreed with the refereeing team that he wasn't in a position to take the ball. If Cheslin hadn't jumped into that space, the accident would never have happened. But it seems that as long as you leave the ground, you no longer bear any responsibility. It's farcical.

                                      The Africans have been adept at jumping into hazardous situations appearing to be contesting the ball for some time

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                                        @antipodean said in The Current State of Rugby:

                                        @Bones said in The Current State of Rugby:

                                        @taniwharugby said in The Current State of Rugby:

                                        @Bones it was pretty bad in that Cheslin landed pretty much on his head, failed his HIA i think, what Du pont didnt do, was jump, if he had leapt I think they were both in the space at the same time, both clearly able to contest, but du pont didnt jump, and went under Cheslin

                                        I just can't buy guys running around a rugby field without a care of who's around or what's going on, especially at that level. It's not an excuse. To use another shitty analogy it's like jumping in the pool without looking. I mean, it's possible, but idiotic and you deserve anything coming your way if you fuck shit up.

                                        I don't subscribe to the implied theory Du Pont didn't care, he was focusing on the ball. I also disagreed with the refereeing team that he wasn't in a position to take the ball. If Cheslin hadn't jumped into that space, the accident would never have happened. But it seems that as long as you leave the ground, you no longer bear any responsibility. It's farcical.

                                        The Africans have been adept at jumping into hazardous situations appearing to be contesting the ball for some time

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                                        @canefan said in The Current State of Rugby:

                                        The Africans have been adept at jumping into hazardous situations appearing to be contesting the ball for some time

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                                          Surely this is satirical...

                                          https://i.stuff.co.nz/sport/rugby/rugby-world-cup/130460581/referee-review-hollie-davidson-nails-big-calls-in-epic-rugby-world-cup-final#comments

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