Commonwealth Games (2022) - all sports, except Sevens
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@MiketheSnow said in Commonwealth Games (2022) - all sports, except Sevens:
@KiwiMurph said in Commonwealth Games (2022) - all sports, except Sevens:
@MiketheSnow Black Sabbath. How good.
Brilliant
So too Pauline Black and Selecter
And Kevin Rowland and Dexy'sApache Indian, Beverley Knight & Goldie brought back memories
Very disappointed Suzanne Paul's Funky Monkey didn't feature in the closing ceremony.
Totally forgiven if you are whooshed by this, Mike. It's very niche. She was the most famous Brum in NZ for a while ....
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@Rapido said in Commonwealth Games (2022) - all sports, except Sevens:
@MiketheSnow said in Commonwealth Games (2022) - all sports, except Sevens:
@KiwiMurph said in Commonwealth Games (2022) - all sports, except Sevens:
@MiketheSnow Black Sabbath. How good.
Brilliant
So too Pauline Black and Selecter
And Kevin Rowland and Dexy'sApache Indian, Beverley Knight & Goldie brought back memories
Very disappointed Suzanne Paul's Funky Monkey didn't feature in the closing ceremony.
Totally forgiven if you are whooshed by this, Mike. It's very niche. She was the most famous Brum in NZ for a while ....
Jesus Christ
You guys did it tough
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@MiketheSnow said in Commonwealth Games (2022) - all sports, except Sevens:
@Rapido said in Commonwealth Games (2022) - all sports, except Sevens:
@MiketheSnow said in Commonwealth Games (2022) - all sports, except Sevens:
@KiwiMurph said in Commonwealth Games (2022) - all sports, except Sevens:
@MiketheSnow Black Sabbath. How good.
Brilliant
So too Pauline Black and Selecter
And Kevin Rowland and Dexy'sApache Indian, Beverley Knight & Goldie brought back memories
Very disappointed Suzanne Paul's Funky Monkey didn't feature in the closing ceremony.
Totally forgiven if you are whooshed by this, Mike. It's very niche. She was the most famous Brum in NZ for a while ....
Jesus Christ
You guys did it tough
Yeah, dark days.
In the days of only 3 channels. Even someone who becomes famous in an 'ironic' way can still have it taken too far for 'the public good'.
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It appears we left potential medals on the table in Birmingham?
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@canefan said in Commonwealth Games (2022) - all sports, except Sevens:
It appears we left potential medals on the table in Birmingham?
The key thing they don't explain well is our athlete quota for athletics. That seems to be the root cause of unrealistic targets. Trying tofind ways to work out who gets the golden ticket.
It just always seems weird when other countries send 'participation' athletes to events where we don't send competitive ones.
What s the quota based on? It must have a basis and it doesn't look like population.Edit: did some googling (and the so-called journalist's job)
It goes like this . CG Birmingham gives quotas to participating countries (not sure of the basis). NZOC takes that quota and allocates spots to various sports. Athletics NZ then has to manage a selection policy that they have agreed with NZOC will meet their performance requirements. Obviously if the number of athletes wanting to go is more than the quota the targets get harder.
In this case NZ had a quota of 103 (then there are convoluted rules around what constitutes a quota spot (eg a 4x100m relay team is 4 spots but a two person beach volleyball team or a Sevens team is only 1).
NZOC only gave Athletics 18 spots. They have to set targets that won't overload that quota. Obviously they assume certain athletes will qualify so adjust the other events accordingly while trying to be fair across the board.
It must be bloody difficult as every event has a different threshold of what appears successful. I would argue that getting in a 100m final is way more of a showing than say 7th in javelin. . NZOC criteria base seems to say 6th or better.
This is where it gets difficult I guess. Do you place a lower threshold on one event than another? I would suggest that certain premier events (either premier for the games overall or for NZ) are allowed a bit more leeway and as long as the process is open most would accept it.
100m is obviously one of these premier events a if an athlete can get in the final then they should go. -
I think I am right in saying that only 17 of the allocated 18 athletics spots were used, which is why the sprinters were more annoyed. It definitely seems easier to qualify in some field events compared to 100 m or other track events. Three female hammer throwers were in Birmingham, for example.
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@Bovidae said in Commonwealth Games (2022) - all sports, except Sevens:
I think I am right in saying that only 17 of the allocated 18 athletics spots were used, which is why the sprinters were more annoyed. It definitely seems easier to qualify in some field events compared to 100 m or other track events. Three female hammer throwers were in Birmingham, for example.
And there is definitely avenues for going outside of the qualification rules in special circumstances as well. Everything Athletics NZ did was correct and within the guidelines but they had avenues to stretch those guidelines which they didn't take. Seems like too many arse coverers there. The flipside of selecting non performing athletes is that you cop funding decreases so they are being overly careful.
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Not quite Commonwealth Games but worthy of mention. Presumably this entitles the winner to wear the rainbow jersey, the real type that are exclusive to World Champions
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@Higgins said in Commonwealth Games (2022) - all sports, except Sevens:
Not quite Commonwealth Games but worthy of mention. Presumably this entitles the winner to wear the rainbow jersey, the real type that are exclusive to World Champions
It was the short course version only. Not sure if that comes with a rainbow jersey except maybe in other short course events.
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