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All Blacks v England

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  • K kev

    Our mindset is not to kick long. Never did it. Short kicking options in last 10 terrible.

    Too many mistakes in first half left door open.

    Laulala is a liability. His inability to get into defensive line created room for the try and yellow card. His selection just atrocious.

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    @kev said in All Blacks v England:

    Our mindset is not to kick long. Never did it. Short kicking options in last 10 terrible.

    Too many mistakes in first half left door open.

    Laulala is a liability. His inability to get into defensive line created room for the try and yellow card. His selection just atrocitious.

    Our players can't adjust the game plan based on the game situation. Kick short, if you want. Don't do it when you only have 14 players. Don't do it when you are defending a lead.

    We are such a dream to play against. We crumble at the first sign of resistance.

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      I guess we need to look at what happened when replacements came on too, did we drop off when they came on? Not really sure.

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        England players bet their match fee on a draw. All Blacks bet theirs on an England win.

        Advantage England.

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          England were under the pump till the 71st minute, but the ABs should have nailed the coffin long before. There were costly errors when the NZ forwards were destroying their English counterparts : two crooked throws by Taylor and two missed kicks by RM after favorable penalties.

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            @kev said in All Blacks v England:

            Our mindset is not to kick long. Never did it. Short kicking options in last 10 terrible.

            Too many mistakes in first half left door open.

            Laulala is a liability. His inability to get into defensive line created room for the try and yellow card. His selection just atrocitious.

            Our players can't adjust the game plan based on the game situation. Kick short, if you want. Don't do it when you only have 14 players. Don't do it when you are defending a lead.

            We are such a dream to play against. We crumble at the first sign of resistance.

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            @hydro11 said in All Blacks v England:

            @kev said in All Blacks v England:

            Our mindset is not to kick long. Never did it. Short kicking options in last 10 terrible.

            Too many mistakes in first half left door open.

            Laulala is a liability. His inability to get into defensive line created room for the try and yellow card. His selection just atrocitious.

            Our players can't adjust the game plan based on the game situation. Kick short, if you want. Don't do it when you only have 14 players. Don't do it when you are defending a lead.

            We are such a dream to play against. We crumble at the first sign of resistance.

            It was time to drive up the middle, keep to touch and burn clock

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              Telea already looks the part at this level. Another game breaking tackles or go forward in contact.

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              • D DMX

                @canefan said in All Blacks v England:

                @No-Quarter said in All Blacks v England:

                @Stargazer said in All Blacks v England:

                Really disappointed that we gave it away. BB, take a long hard look at yourself. That comeback started with you.

                Haha come on, your boy Mo'unga missed touch twice from penalties, the second one ended up with England camped on our line when we should have been on theirs. You can't single one player out for that, we looked knackered at the end of a long season and England finished very strong.

                Our kick options are terrible. Barely kicked for touch when that's what was required

                Agreed we have no one who can kick for territory.

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                hydro11
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                @DMX said in All Blacks v England:

                @canefan said in All Blacks v England:

                @No-Quarter said in All Blacks v England:

                @Stargazer said in All Blacks v England:

                Really disappointed that we gave it away. BB, take a long hard look at yourself. That comeback started with you.

                Haha come on, your boy Mo'unga missed touch twice from penalties, the second one ended up with England camped on our line when we should have been on theirs. You can't single one player out for that, we looked knackered at the end of a long season and England finished very strong.

                Our kick options are terrible. Barely kicked for touch when that's what was required

                Agreed we have no one who can kick for territory.

                We have Jordie Barrett! Not to mention Mounga and Beauden should both be able to do it.

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                  Can't believe Nisbo thought it was a smart kick from TJ.

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                    I hate to say this as the man over the years has be fantastic but BB may have to go. He has made way to many errors this year. RM was not brilliant today either. You cannot afford to miss touch finders. We have to keep this mid field though and MT has been great. Even CC was good in this match. When RC "GOAT' was there we would never have drawn a game like that.

                    I am still in fucking shock. This has left a bad taste in my mouth for sure. I hate when we fuck a game up like that for the last game of the season. England looked average and we looked great for the first 60. Now we just look likes bunch of chokers. !!

                    Fucking ruined my day !!!

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                    • H hydro11

                      @DMX said in All Blacks v England:

                      @canefan said in All Blacks v England:

                      @No-Quarter said in All Blacks v England:

                      @Stargazer said in All Blacks v England:

                      Really disappointed that we gave it away. BB, take a long hard look at yourself. That comeback started with you.

                      Haha come on, your boy Mo'unga missed touch twice from penalties, the second one ended up with England camped on our line when we should have been on theirs. You can't single one player out for that, we looked knackered at the end of a long season and England finished very strong.

                      Our kick options are terrible. Barely kicked for touch when that's what was required

                      Agreed we have no one who can kick for territory.

                      We have Jordie Barrett! Not to mention Mounga and Beauden should both be able to do it.

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                      @hydro11 said in All Blacks v England:

                      @DMX said in All Blacks v England:

                      @canefan said in All Blacks v England:

                      @No-Quarter said in All Blacks v England:

                      @Stargazer said in All Blacks v England:

                      Really disappointed that we gave it away. BB, take a long hard look at yourself. That comeback started with you.

                      Haha come on, your boy Mo'unga missed touch twice from penalties, the second one ended up with England camped on our line when we should have been on theirs. You can't single one player out for that, we looked knackered at the end of a long season and England finished very strong.

                      Our kick options are terrible. Barely kicked for touch when that's what was required

                      Agreed we have no one who can kick for territory.

                      We have Jordie Barrett! Not to mention Mounga and Beauden should both be able to do it.

                      But we don't do it. That is the problem. Surely a tactical failing

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                      • BovidaeB Bovidae

                        @Stargazer The poor pass to Ioane in the 1st half. Another in the 2nd half that led to a England penalty. He did some good things but struggled when he didn't have any space.

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                        @Bovidae said in All Blacks v England:

                        @Stargazer The poor pass to Ioane in the 1st half. Another in the 2nd half that led to a England penalty. He did some good things but struggled when he didn't have any space.

                        A high pass that any centre worth is salt should have taken. Ioane’s game is littered with errors. You combine him and Caleb Clarke and our mistake rate is too high.

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                        • H hydro11

                          @DMX said in All Blacks v England:

                          @canefan said in All Blacks v England:

                          @No-Quarter said in All Blacks v England:

                          @Stargazer said in All Blacks v England:

                          Really disappointed that we gave it away. BB, take a long hard look at yourself. That comeback started with you.

                          Haha come on, your boy Mo'unga missed touch twice from penalties, the second one ended up with England camped on our line when we should have been on theirs. You can't single one player out for that, we looked knackered at the end of a long season and England finished very strong.

                          Our kick options are terrible. Barely kicked for touch when that's what was required

                          Agreed we have no one who can kick for territory.

                          We have Jordie Barrett! Not to mention Mounga and Beauden should both be able to do it.

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                          DMX
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                          @hydro11 said in All Blacks v England:

                          @DMX said in All Blacks v England:

                          @canefan said in All Blacks v England:

                          @No-Quarter said in All Blacks v England:

                          @Stargazer said in All Blacks v England:

                          Really disappointed that we gave it away. BB, take a long hard look at yourself. That comeback started with you.

                          Haha come on, your boy Mo'unga missed touch twice from penalties, the second one ended up with England camped on our line when we should have been on theirs. You can't single one player out for that, we looked knackered at the end of a long season and England finished very strong.

                          Our kick options are terrible. Barely kicked for touch when that's what was required

                          Agreed we have no one who can kick for territory.

                          We have Jordie Barrett! Not to mention Mounga and Beauden should both be able to do it.

                          Maybe I will rephrase, we have no one who is kicking for territory.

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                          • canefanC canefan

                            @hydro11 said in All Blacks v England:

                            @kev said in All Blacks v England:

                            Our mindset is not to kick long. Never did it. Short kicking options in last 10 terrible.

                            Too many mistakes in first half left door open.

                            Laulala is a liability. His inability to get into defensive line created room for the try and yellow card. His selection just atrocitious.

                            Our players can't adjust the game plan based on the game situation. Kick short, if you want. Don't do it when you only have 14 players. Don't do it when you are defending a lead.

                            We are such a dream to play against. We crumble at the first sign of resistance.

                            It was time to drive up the middle, keep to touch and burn clock

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                            hydro11
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                            @canefan said in All Blacks v England:

                            @hydro11 said in All Blacks v England:

                            @kev said in All Blacks v England:

                            Our mindset is not to kick long. Never did it. Short kicking options in last 10 terrible.

                            Too many mistakes in first half left door open.

                            Laulala is a liability. His inability to get into defensive line created room for the try and yellow card. His selection just atrocitious.

                            Our players can't adjust the game plan based on the game situation. Kick short, if you want. Don't do it when you only have 14 players. Don't do it when you are defending a lead.

                            We are such a dream to play against. We crumble at the first sign of resistance.

                            It was time to drive up the middle, keep to touch and burn clock

                            We seem to somehow have lost our basic understanding of how to win a rugby match. Other teams only have to win games once, we have to win them five times over.

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                            • D DMX

                              @hydro11 said in All Blacks v England:

                              @DMX said in All Blacks v England:

                              @canefan said in All Blacks v England:

                              @No-Quarter said in All Blacks v England:

                              @Stargazer said in All Blacks v England:

                              Really disappointed that we gave it away. BB, take a long hard look at yourself. That comeback started with you.

                              Haha come on, your boy Mo'unga missed touch twice from penalties, the second one ended up with England camped on our line when we should have been on theirs. You can't single one player out for that, we looked knackered at the end of a long season and England finished very strong.

                              Our kick options are terrible. Barely kicked for touch when that's what was required

                              Agreed we have no one who can kick for territory.

                              We have Jordie Barrett! Not to mention Mounga and Beauden should both be able to do it.

                              Maybe I will rephrase, we have no one who is kicking for territory.

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                              kev
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                              @DMX said in All Blacks v England:

                              @hydro11 said in All Blacks v England:

                              @DMX said in All Blacks v England:

                              @canefan said in All Blacks v England:

                              @No-Quarter said in All Blacks v England:

                              @Stargazer said in All Blacks v England:

                              Really disappointed that we gave it away. BB, take a long hard look at yourself. That comeback started with you.

                              Haha come on, your boy Mo'unga missed touch twice from penalties, the second one ended up with England camped on our line when we should have been on theirs. You can't single one player out for that, we looked knackered at the end of a long season and England finished very strong.

                              Our kick options are terrible. Barely kicked for touch when that's what was required

                              Agreed we have no one who can kick for territory.

                              We have Jordie Barrett! Not to mention Mounga and Beauden should both be able to do it.

                              Maybe I will rephrase, we have no one who is kicking for territory.

                              And BB.

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                                Frye
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                                Raynal would have blown a penalty in that last minute if we tried to run the clock I'm also certain.

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                                • D DMX

                                  @canefan said in All Blacks v England:

                                  @No-Quarter said in All Blacks v England:

                                  @Stargazer said in All Blacks v England:

                                  Really disappointed that we gave it away. BB, take a long hard look at yourself. That comeback started with you.

                                  Haha come on, your boy Mo'unga missed touch twice from penalties, the second one ended up with England camped on our line when we should have been on theirs. You can't single one player out for that, we looked knackered at the end of a long season and England finished very strong.

                                  Our kick options are terrible. Barely kicked for touch when that's what was required

                                  Agreed we have no one who can kick for territory.

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                                  Damo
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                                  @DMX said in All Blacks v England:

                                  @canefan said in All Blacks v England:

                                  @No-Quarter said in All Blacks v England:

                                  @Stargazer said in All Blacks v England:

                                  Really disappointed that we gave it away. BB, take a long hard look at yourself. That comeback started with you.

                                  Haha come on, your boy Mo'unga missed touch twice from penalties, the second one ended up with England camped on our line when we should have been on theirs. You can't single one player out for that, we looked knackered at the end of a long season and England finished very strong.

                                  Our kick options are terrible. Barely kicked for touch when that's what was required

                                  Agreed we have no one who can kick for territory.

                                  That's not true. Jordie has a big kick. He should be used more.

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                                  • canefanC canefan

                                    @hydro11 said in All Blacks v England:

                                    @kev said in All Blacks v England:

                                    Our mindset is not to kick long. Never did it. Short kicking options in last 10 terrible.

                                    Too many mistakes in first half left door open.

                                    Laulala is a liability. His inability to get into defensive line created room for the try and yellow card. His selection just atrocitious.

                                    Our players can't adjust the game plan based on the game situation. Kick short, if you want. Don't do it when you only have 14 players. Don't do it when you are defending a lead.

                                    We are such a dream to play against. We crumble at the first sign of resistance.

                                    It was time to drive up the middle, keep to touch and burn clock

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                                    Crazy Horse
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                                    @canefan said in All Blacks v England:

                                    @hydro11 said in All Blacks v England:

                                    @kev said in All Blacks v England:

                                    Our mindset is not to kick long. Never did it. Short kicking options in last 10 terrible.

                                    Too many mistakes in first half left door open.

                                    Laulala is a liability. His inability to get into defensive line created room for the try and yellow card. His selection just atrocitious.

                                    Our players can't adjust the game plan based on the game situation. Kick short, if you want. Don't do it when you only have 14 players. Don't do it when you are defending a lead.

                                    We are such a dream to play against. We crumble at the first sign of resistance.

                                    It was time to drive up the middle, keep to touch and burn clock

                                    The unpredictable nature of the ref may have played a part in the decision to kick. Then, because we did not have anyone in the backs at the time the decision was made to kick (they were all in or around the ruck) the only option was for TJ to kick.

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                                      @Bovidae said in All Blacks v England:

                                      @Stargazer The poor pass to Ioane in the 1st half. Another in the 2nd half that led to a England penalty. He did some good things but struggled when he didn't have any space.

                                      A high pass that any centre worth is salt should have taken. Ioane’s game is littered with errors. You combine him and Caleb Clarke and our mistake rate is too high.

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                                      @kev said in All Blacks v England:

                                      @Bovidae said in All Blacks v England:

                                      @Stargazer The poor pass to Ioane in the 1st half. Another in the 2nd half that led to a England penalty. He did some good things but struggled when he didn't have any space.

                                      A high pass that any centre worth is salt should have taken. Ioane’s game is littered with errors. You combine him and Caleb Clarke and our mistake rate is too high.

                                      Error rate between,Ioane , Mounga, Taylor and Clarke is way to high to consistently win games.

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                                      • BonesB Bones

                                        England players bet their match fee on a draw. All Blacks bet theirs on an England win.

                                        Advantage England.

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                                        sparky
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                                        @Bones And the ref?

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                                          @Bones And the ref?

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                                          @sparky said in All Blacks v England:

                                          @Bones And the ref?

                                          We'd already taken him out of the game. Massive choke

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