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    That South Korea goal was quite bizarre. There are 6 minutes of stoppage time left and yet every Korean player is back for a defensive corner - I was shouting at the TV, keep a couple up field. Anyway it is cleared to Son who has no team-mate anywhere near him and is surrounded by 7 or so Portugal players. Hwang of Wolves sprints box to box in legendary fashion, Son nutmegs a defender to find him and a fantastic finish.

    Lukaku had a higher xG (expected goals) in the 2nd half v Croatia than Morocco for the whole group stage.

    On the ball is in or out debate - I learnt it when I did a ref's course many years ago. The issue for me is that like close offsides, it is impossible for the naked eye to adjudicate - hence why the ball is often given out as soon as grass is seen between ball and line.

    On Japan. They did virtually nothing except play a low block for 90 minutes out of 100. For the 10 minutes after half-time they pressed with the whole team and Spain were dumb enough to try to play out from the back with a keeper who doesn't have the skills. Got their 2 goals and sat back again.

    From a football point of view, I'm sad the Germans are out as they are great to watch. Musiala is a fantastic talent but the whole team is a defensive liability including Neuer. I'm not all that thrilled to watch 2 hours of a team playing 10 at the back and the other team trying to break them down.

    Netherlands v USA. Can see this one going to extra time unless Gakpo can keep up his goal a game thing.
    Argentina v Australia. Argies should be comfortable.
    France v Poland. Poland are awful, France should stroll this with some magic from their front 4.
    England v Senegal. Senegal very dogged but England should have enough.
    Japan v Croatia. Japan will fancy this but Croatia are canny. Extra time
    Brazil v Korea Republic. Wonder if Brazil will pick both Martinelli and Vinicius as they are their best 2 wide players and the 2 for the right (Raphinha & Antony) are show ponies. 0-0 after 90 wouldn't surprise me.
    Morocco v Spain. Fancy Morocco for this one.
    Portugal v Switzerland. Another extra time I reckon.

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    • KiwiPieK KiwiPie

      That South Korea goal was quite bizarre. There are 6 minutes of stoppage time left and yet every Korean player is back for a defensive corner - I was shouting at the TV, keep a couple up field. Anyway it is cleared to Son who has no team-mate anywhere near him and is surrounded by 7 or so Portugal players. Hwang of Wolves sprints box to box in legendary fashion, Son nutmegs a defender to find him and a fantastic finish.

      Lukaku had a higher xG (expected goals) in the 2nd half v Croatia than Morocco for the whole group stage.

      On the ball is in or out debate - I learnt it when I did a ref's course many years ago. The issue for me is that like close offsides, it is impossible for the naked eye to adjudicate - hence why the ball is often given out as soon as grass is seen between ball and line.

      On Japan. They did virtually nothing except play a low block for 90 minutes out of 100. For the 10 minutes after half-time they pressed with the whole team and Spain were dumb enough to try to play out from the back with a keeper who doesn't have the skills. Got their 2 goals and sat back again.

      From a football point of view, I'm sad the Germans are out as they are great to watch. Musiala is a fantastic talent but the whole team is a defensive liability including Neuer. I'm not all that thrilled to watch 2 hours of a team playing 10 at the back and the other team trying to break them down.

      Netherlands v USA. Can see this one going to extra time unless Gakpo can keep up his goal a game thing.
      Argentina v Australia. Argies should be comfortable.
      France v Poland. Poland are awful, France should stroll this with some magic from their front 4.
      England v Senegal. Senegal very dogged but England should have enough.
      Japan v Croatia. Japan will fancy this but Croatia are canny. Extra time
      Brazil v Korea Republic. Wonder if Brazil will pick both Martinelli and Vinicius as they are their best 2 wide players and the 2 for the right (Raphinha & Antony) are show ponies. 0-0 after 90 wouldn't surprise me.
      Morocco v Spain. Fancy Morocco for this one.
      Portugal v Switzerland. Another extra time I reckon.

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      @KiwiPie front page worthy. So I did.

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      • boobooB booboo

        @KiwiPie front page worthy. So I did.

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        @booboo said in FIFA World Cup 2022:

        @KiwiPie front page worthy. So I did.

        Well, I tried to. Hasn't showed up there yet.

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        • boobooB booboo

          @booboo said in FIFA World Cup 2022:

          @KiwiPie front page worthy. So I did.

          Well, I tried to. Hasn't showed up there yet.

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          @booboo said in FIFA World Cup 2022:

          @booboo said in FIFA World Cup 2022:

          @KiwiPie front page worthy. So I did.

          Well, I tried to. Hasn't showed up there yet.

          And when you finally figure out how to do it, I’m picking you’ll do it twice 😏

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          • NTAN NTA

            @Windows97 said in FIFA World Cup 2022:

            And Belgium's "golden generation" crashes to an end with only 1 goal all tournament.

            That's what they get for not being French or German or Dutch.

            Except today, they are more German than either of the other 2.

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            @NTA said in FIFA World Cup 2022:

            @Windows97 said in FIFA World Cup 2022:

            And Belgium's "golden generation" crashes to an end with only 1 goal all tournament.

            That's what they get for not being French or German or Dutch.

            Huh?

            You’ll need to explain this one to me.

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            • MajorPomM MajorPom

              @NTA said in FIFA World Cup 2022:

              @Windows97 said in FIFA World Cup 2022:

              And Belgium's "golden generation" crashes to an end with only 1 goal all tournament.

              That's what they get for not being French or German or Dutch.

              Huh?

              You’ll need to explain this one to me.

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              @MajorRage said in FIFA World Cup 2022:

              @NTA said in FIFA World Cup 2022:

              @Windows97 said in FIFA World Cup 2022:

              And Belgium's "golden generation" crashes to an end with only 1 goal all tournament.

              That's what they get for not being French or German or Dutch.

              Huh?

              You’ll need to explain this one to me.

              Belgium. Smack in the middle of the 3.

              Also: never ask a Belgian if it's more like being French or Dutch.

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              • NTAN NTA

                @MajorRage said in FIFA World Cup 2022:

                @NTA said in FIFA World Cup 2022:

                @Windows97 said in FIFA World Cup 2022:

                And Belgium's "golden generation" crashes to an end with only 1 goal all tournament.

                That's what they get for not being French or German or Dutch.

                Huh?

                You’ll need to explain this one to me.

                Belgium. Smack in the middle of the 3.

                Also: never ask a Belgian if it's more like being French or Dutch.

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                @NTA said in FIFA World Cup 2022:

                @MajorRage said in FIFA World Cup 2022:

                @NTA said in FIFA World Cup 2022:

                @Windows97 said in FIFA World Cup 2022:

                And Belgium's "golden generation" crashes to an end with only 1 goal all tournament.

                That's what they get for not being French or German or Dutch.

                Huh?

                You’ll need to explain this one to me.

                Belgium. Smack in the middle of the 3.

                Also: never ask a Belgian if it's more like being French or Dutch.

                Given i work with a few Belgians and I travel through it 6-7 x a year I know a bit about it …

                Still got no idea what your post is about but whatever.

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                • HoorooH Hooroo

                  @Crucial said in FIFA World Cup 2022:

                  @Kiwiwomble said in FIFA World Cup 2022:

                  @Crucial or how few people knew the rule, that does seem a bit ridiculous though

                  Yeah. I didn’t know but I dont follow wendyball.
                  Usually if a rule looks stupid it is.
                  Can a ball cross “the plane of touch” in the air and come back into play (like a curving kick)?
                  If the whole ball must cross the line for a goal the this instance look like play on to me.

                  No. Otherwise there would be a squillion goals from corners as they would bend them from behind the goal over the keepers head onto rushing attackers heads.

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                  @Hooroo said in FIFA World Cup 2022:

                  @Crucial said in FIFA World Cup 2022:

                  @Kiwiwomble said in FIFA World Cup 2022:

                  @Crucial or how few people knew the rule, that does seem a bit ridiculous though

                  Yeah. I didn’t know but I dont follow wendyball.
                  Usually if a rule looks stupid it is.
                  Can a ball cross “the plane of touch” in the air and come back into play (like a curving kick)?
                  If the whole ball must cross the line for a goal the this instance look like play on to me.

                  No. Otherwise there would be a squillion goals from corners as they would bend them from behind the goal over the keepers head onto rushing attackers heads.

                  Exactly.

                  The rule is simply the opposite of rugby and it makes the game much clearer.

                  The followers of “Wendyball” get it.

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                  • boobooB booboo

                    @KiwiPie front page worthy. So I did.

                    KiwiPieK Offline
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                    wrote on last edited by
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                    @booboo I'd have spent more time over it if I'd known! I've watched most of the games both in the UK and then in NZ and have many thoughts!

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                    • KiwiPieK KiwiPie

                      That South Korea goal was quite bizarre. There are 6 minutes of stoppage time left and yet every Korean player is back for a defensive corner - I was shouting at the TV, keep a couple up field. Anyway it is cleared to Son who has no team-mate anywhere near him and is surrounded by 7 or so Portugal players. Hwang of Wolves sprints box to box in legendary fashion, Son nutmegs a defender to find him and a fantastic finish.

                      Lukaku had a higher xG (expected goals) in the 2nd half v Croatia than Morocco for the whole group stage.

                      On the ball is in or out debate - I learnt it when I did a ref's course many years ago. The issue for me is that like close offsides, it is impossible for the naked eye to adjudicate - hence why the ball is often given out as soon as grass is seen between ball and line.

                      On Japan. They did virtually nothing except play a low block for 90 minutes out of 100. For the 10 minutes after half-time they pressed with the whole team and Spain were dumb enough to try to play out from the back with a keeper who doesn't have the skills. Got their 2 goals and sat back again.

                      From a football point of view, I'm sad the Germans are out as they are great to watch. Musiala is a fantastic talent but the whole team is a defensive liability including Neuer. I'm not all that thrilled to watch 2 hours of a team playing 10 at the back and the other team trying to break them down.

                      Netherlands v USA. Can see this one going to extra time unless Gakpo can keep up his goal a game thing.
                      Argentina v Australia. Argies should be comfortable.
                      France v Poland. Poland are awful, France should stroll this with some magic from their front 4.
                      England v Senegal. Senegal very dogged but England should have enough.
                      Japan v Croatia. Japan will fancy this but Croatia are canny. Extra time
                      Brazil v Korea Republic. Wonder if Brazil will pick both Martinelli and Vinicius as they are their best 2 wide players and the 2 for the right (Raphinha & Antony) are show ponies. 0-0 after 90 wouldn't surprise me.
                      Morocco v Spain. Fancy Morocco for this one.
                      Portugal v Switzerland. Another extra time I reckon.

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                      #336

                      @KiwiPie said in FIFA World Cup 2022:

                      That South Korea goal was quite bizarre. There are 6 minutes of stoppage time left and yet every Korean player is back for a defensive corner - I was shouting at the TV, keep a couple up field. Anyway it is cleared to Son who has no team-mate anywhere near him and is surrounded by 7 or so Portugal players. Hwang of Wolves sprints box to box in legendary fashion, Son nutmegs a defender to find him and a fantastic finish.

                      Lukaku had a higher xG (expected goals) in the 2nd half v Croatia than Morocco for the whole group stage.

                      On the ball is in or out debate - I learnt it when I did a ref's course many years ago. The issue for me is that like close offsides, it is impossible for the naked eye to adjudicate - hence why the ball is often given out as soon as grass is seen between ball and line.

                      On Japan. They did virtually nothing except play a low block for 90 minutes out of 100. For the 10 minutes after half-time they pressed with the whole team and Spain were dumb enough to try to play out from the back with a keeper who doesn't have the skills. Got their 2 goals and sat back again.

                      From a football point of view, I'm sad the Germans are out as they are great to watch. Musiala is a fantastic talent but the whole team is a defensive liability including Neuer. I'm not all that thrilled to watch 2 hours of a team playing 10 at the back and the other team trying to break them down.

                      Netherlands v USA. Can see this one going to extra time unless Gakpo can keep up his goal a game thing.
                      Argentina v Australia. Argies should be comfortable.
                      France v Poland. Poland are awful, France should stroll this with some magic from their front 4.
                      England v Senegal. Senegal very dogged but England should have enough.
                      Japan v Croatia. Japan will fancy this but Croatia are canny. Extra time
                      Brazil v Korea Republic. Wonder if Brazil will pick both Martinelli and Vinicius as they are their best 2 wide players and the 2 for the right (Raphinha & Antony) are show ponies. 0-0 after 90 wouldn't surprise me.
                      Morocco v Spain. Fancy Morocco for this one.
                      Portugal v Switzerland. Another extra time I reckon.

                      QF for me

                      Netherlands v Argentina
                      Japan v Brazil
                      England v France
                      Spain v Portugal

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                      • KiwiPieK KiwiPie

                        @booboo I'd have spent more time over it if I'd known! I've watched most of the games both in the UK and then in NZ and have many thoughts!

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                        @KiwiPie said in FIFA World Cup 2022:

                        @booboo I'd have spent more time over it if I'd known! I've watched most of the games both in the UK and then in NZ and have many thoughts!

                        Still time to fix it up?

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                          #338

                          Lots of quite mediocre teams in this World Cup makes for lots of close games and some "upsets". Most of these Round of 16 games could go either way so I'm predicting lots of Extra Time and a few penalty shootouts.

                          I'm not shifting from my pre-tournament prediction of a France-Brazil final. England look the third best team in the competition IMHO. Huge opportunity for them to get the monkey off their back.

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                          • MiketheSnowM MiketheSnow

                            @KiwiPie said in FIFA World Cup 2022:

                            That South Korea goal was quite bizarre. There are 6 minutes of stoppage time left and yet every Korean player is back for a defensive corner - I was shouting at the TV, keep a couple up field. Anyway it is cleared to Son who has no team-mate anywhere near him and is surrounded by 7 or so Portugal players. Hwang of Wolves sprints box to box in legendary fashion, Son nutmegs a defender to find him and a fantastic finish.

                            Lukaku had a higher xG (expected goals) in the 2nd half v Croatia than Morocco for the whole group stage.

                            On the ball is in or out debate - I learnt it when I did a ref's course many years ago. The issue for me is that like close offsides, it is impossible for the naked eye to adjudicate - hence why the ball is often given out as soon as grass is seen between ball and line.

                            On Japan. They did virtually nothing except play a low block for 90 minutes out of 100. For the 10 minutes after half-time they pressed with the whole team and Spain were dumb enough to try to play out from the back with a keeper who doesn't have the skills. Got their 2 goals and sat back again.

                            From a football point of view, I'm sad the Germans are out as they are great to watch. Musiala is a fantastic talent but the whole team is a defensive liability including Neuer. I'm not all that thrilled to watch 2 hours of a team playing 10 at the back and the other team trying to break them down.

                            Netherlands v USA. Can see this one going to extra time unless Gakpo can keep up his goal a game thing.
                            Argentina v Australia. Argies should be comfortable.
                            France v Poland. Poland are awful, France should stroll this with some magic from their front 4.
                            England v Senegal. Senegal very dogged but England should have enough.
                            Japan v Croatia. Japan will fancy this but Croatia are canny. Extra time
                            Brazil v Korea Republic. Wonder if Brazil will pick both Martinelli and Vinicius as they are their best 2 wide players and the 2 for the right (Raphinha & Antony) are show ponies. 0-0 after 90 wouldn't surprise me.
                            Morocco v Spain. Fancy Morocco for this one.
                            Portugal v Switzerland. Another extra time I reckon.

                            QF for me

                            Netherlands v Argentina
                            Japan v Brazil
                            England v France
                            Spain v Portugal

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                            @MiketheSnow said in FIFA World Cup 2022:

                            @KiwiPie said in FIFA World Cup 2022:

                            That South Korea goal was quite bizarre. There are 6 minutes of stoppage time left and yet every Korean player is back for a defensive corner - I was shouting at the TV, keep a couple up field. Anyway it is cleared to Son who has no team-mate anywhere near him and is surrounded by 7 or so Portugal players. Hwang of Wolves sprints box to box in legendary fashion, Son nutmegs a defender to find him and a fantastic finish.

                            Lukaku had a higher xG (expected goals) in the 2nd half v Croatia than Morocco for the whole group stage.

                            On the ball is in or out debate - I learnt it when I did a ref's course many years ago. The issue for me is that like close offsides, it is impossible for the naked eye to adjudicate - hence why the ball is often given out as soon as grass is seen between ball and line.

                            On Japan. They did virtually nothing except play a low block for 90 minutes out of 100. For the 10 minutes after half-time they pressed with the whole team and Spain were dumb enough to try to play out from the back with a keeper who doesn't have the skills. Got their 2 goals and sat back again.

                            From a football point of view, I'm sad the Germans are out as they are great to watch. Musiala is a fantastic talent but the whole team is a defensive liability including Neuer. I'm not all that thrilled to watch 2 hours of a team playing 10 at the back and the other team trying to break them down.

                            Netherlands v USA. Can see this one going to extra time unless Gakpo can keep up his goal a game thing.
                            Argentina v Australia. Argies should be comfortable.
                            France v Poland. Poland are awful, France should stroll this with some magic from their front 4.
                            England v Senegal. Senegal very dogged but England should have enough.
                            Japan v Croatia. Japan will fancy this but Croatia are canny. Extra time
                            Brazil v Korea Republic. Wonder if Brazil will pick both Martinelli and Vinicius as they are their best 2 wide players and the 2 for the right (Raphinha & Antony) are show ponies. 0-0 after 90 wouldn't surprise me.
                            Morocco v Spain. Fancy Morocco for this one.
                            Portugal v Switzerland. Another extra time I reckon.

                            QF for me

                            Netherlands v Argentina
                            Japan v Brazil
                            England v France
                            Spain v Portugal

                            USA V Australia
                            Croatia V Brazil
                            England V France
                            Morocco V Portugal

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                            • sparkyS sparky

                              @MiketheSnow said in FIFA World Cup 2022:

                              @KiwiPie said in FIFA World Cup 2022:

                              That South Korea goal was quite bizarre. There are 6 minutes of stoppage time left and yet every Korean player is back for a defensive corner - I was shouting at the TV, keep a couple up field. Anyway it is cleared to Son who has no team-mate anywhere near him and is surrounded by 7 or so Portugal players. Hwang of Wolves sprints box to box in legendary fashion, Son nutmegs a defender to find him and a fantastic finish.

                              Lukaku had a higher xG (expected goals) in the 2nd half v Croatia than Morocco for the whole group stage.

                              On the ball is in or out debate - I learnt it when I did a ref's course many years ago. The issue for me is that like close offsides, it is impossible for the naked eye to adjudicate - hence why the ball is often given out as soon as grass is seen between ball and line.

                              On Japan. They did virtually nothing except play a low block for 90 minutes out of 100. For the 10 minutes after half-time they pressed with the whole team and Spain were dumb enough to try to play out from the back with a keeper who doesn't have the skills. Got their 2 goals and sat back again.

                              From a football point of view, I'm sad the Germans are out as they are great to watch. Musiala is a fantastic talent but the whole team is a defensive liability including Neuer. I'm not all that thrilled to watch 2 hours of a team playing 10 at the back and the other team trying to break them down.

                              Netherlands v USA. Can see this one going to extra time unless Gakpo can keep up his goal a game thing.
                              Argentina v Australia. Argies should be comfortable.
                              France v Poland. Poland are awful, France should stroll this with some magic from their front 4.
                              England v Senegal. Senegal very dogged but England should have enough.
                              Japan v Croatia. Japan will fancy this but Croatia are canny. Extra time
                              Brazil v Korea Republic. Wonder if Brazil will pick both Martinelli and Vinicius as they are their best 2 wide players and the 2 for the right (Raphinha & Antony) are show ponies. 0-0 after 90 wouldn't surprise me.
                              Morocco v Spain. Fancy Morocco for this one.
                              Portugal v Switzerland. Another extra time I reckon.

                              QF for me

                              Netherlands v Argentina
                              Japan v Brazil
                              England v France
                              Spain v Portugal

                              USA V Australia
                              Croatia V Brazil
                              England V France
                              Morocco V Portugal

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                              @sparky said in FIFA World Cup 2022:

                              USA V Australia

                              Yeah, nah... Nah.

                              Argentina will win unless the bookies have lost their minds.

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                                Holland wearing Aussie colours looks silly. Wear orange!

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                                  The states with a striker woujd be very dangerous.

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                                  • Billy TellB Billy Tell

                                    The states with a striker woujd be very dangerous.

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                                    @Billy-Tell i'm impressed with their midfield. Dogged. Just don't know what to do in the last third.

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                                      @Billy-Tell i'm impressed with their midfield. Dogged. Just don't know what to do in the last third.

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                                      @broughie said in FIFA World Cup 2022:

                                      @Billy-Tell i'm impressed with their midfield. Dogged. Just don't know what to do in the last third.

                                      Slightly naive on defence and no striker but they have the makings of a decent team for their home World Cup.

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                                        I don't say this very often at all, but c'mon Aussie!

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                                          Aussie making a good fist of this.

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