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Hurricanes 2023

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  • Canes4lifeC Canes4life

    @Stargazer said in Hurricanes 2023:

    Also training with the Canes: Manawatū hooker Leif Keil-Schwencke

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    Interesting, did this guy even play NPC?

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    @Canes4life Yup, Manawatu.

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      @Canes4life Yup, Manawatu.

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      @African-Monkey said in Hurricanes 2023:

      @Canes4life Yup, Manawatu.

      I find it quite interesting that someone like Raymond Tuputupu has all of sudden vanished after performing strongly for the Hurricanes under 20s and NZ Under 20s this year, aswell as being rushed into the Hurricanes main side for one of their games earlier this season.

      Does anyone know if he is injured, because he didn't appear for the Turbos either? I thought he would be next in line infront of both Leif Keil-Schwencke and Josh Southall for a Hurricanes dev spot, as they've only both played limited minutes.

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        @African-Monkey said in Hurricanes 2023:

        @Canes4life Yup, Manawatu.

        I find it quite interesting that someone like Raymond Tuputupu has all of sudden vanished after performing strongly for the Hurricanes under 20s and NZ Under 20s this year, aswell as being rushed into the Hurricanes main side for one of their games earlier this season.

        Does anyone know if he is injured, because he didn't appear for the Turbos either? I thought he would be next in line infront of both Leif Keil-Schwencke and Josh Southall for a Hurricanes dev spot, as they've only both played limited minutes.

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        @Canes4life Keil-Schwenke played in 6 games for Manawatū, mostly off the bench as Maile was usually their starting hooker.

        No, idea what happened to Raymond Tuputupu since he played for the NZU20s in July. I expected him in the Turbos squad, too, ahead of LK-S. In the media release of the NZ U19 team naming it said that he was unavailable. All the others on that unavailable list were playing NPC or 7s. He wasn't. :man_shrugging_medium_skin_tone:

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          @Canes4life Keil-Schwenke played in 6 games for Manawatū, mostly off the bench as Maile was usually their starting hooker.

          No, idea what happened to Raymond Tuputupu since he played for the NZU20s in July. I expected him in the Turbos squad, too, ahead of LK-S. In the media release of the NZ U19 team naming it said that he was unavailable. All the others on that unavailable list were playing NPC or 7s. He wasn't. :man_shrugging_medium_skin_tone:

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          @Stargazer said in Hurricanes 2023:

          @Canes4life Keil-Schwenke played in 6 games for Manawatū, mostly off the bench as Maile was usually their starting hooker.

          No, idea what happened to Raymond Tuputupu since he played for the NZU20s in July. I expected him in the Turbos squad, too, ahead of LK-S. In the media release of the NZ U19 team naming it said that he was unavailable. All the others on that unavailable list were playing NPC or 7s. He wasn't. :man_shrugging_medium_skin_tone:

          That's very interesting. Without speculating too much maybe he picked up a serious injury.

          Hopefully we see him back on the park soon.

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            Anyone know much about Solomone Naiduki? I see he was in the P Eels setup over on Aus?

            Looks like an athlete.

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              Anyone know much about Solomone Naiduki? I see he was in the P Eels setup over on Aus?

              Looks like an athlete.

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              @Canes4life I've not found much info.

              From his Rakaviti profile:

              Age: 22
              Height: 189cm
              Weight - 103kg
              From: Tailevu, Fiji
              School: Ratu Kadavulevu School

              Former RKS Under 18’s Rep Solomone Naiduki is known for being a powerhouse centre with excellent finishing abilities.

              He was reportedly spotted by Raiders scouts on a tour to Australia with the Junior Bati but was ultimately signed by the Eels.

              In his time with RKS he was touted as one of the best finishers in recent years.


              This is from the Roar site:

              Naiduki is the latest Fiji-born Parramatta winger. Naiduki was first scouted in 2018 by the Raiders when representing the Junior Bati as a centre, before a late three-year offer from the Eels secured his services.

              Naiduki fits the prototype of the typical Fijian winger: athletic, quick, strong in contact and a good finisher.

              Naiduki scored three tries in his six NSW Cup appearances last season and contributes handily when coming out of his own end, averaging 152 metres per game.

              With Sivo injured to start the season, Naiduki looked to be likely to start on the wing in Round 1 until the recent signing of Bailey Simonsson.

              He likely needs an injury to one of the starting wingers before a debut, and even then, he will still be competing with two-gamer Sean Russell for a spot.

              Naiduki is no guarantee to play first grade this year but will not let anyone down if selected.ng to google, in 2021, he was a development player with the Eels; in 2022, he was a full squad member, but never cracked the senior playing side.


              And this is from another article:

              Parramatta Eels - Solomone Naiduki

              Another winger out of Fiji, Naiduki will be looking to emulate the success of Semi Radradra and Maika Sivo at Parramatta in the coming years.

              Naiduki scored three tries in six games of NSW Cup last season and is an impressive athlete. He has signed on with the Eels top 30 squad on a one-year deal.

              The 20-year-old is built similarly to Sivo and has already drawn comparisons to his fellow Fijian star, and the rookie will also be looking to make an impact and earn a spot in the World Cup squad next year.

              Before the club signed Bailey Simonsson recently, Naiduki was probably the front-runner to replace the injured Sivo at the start of next season, and while he might have to wait for his opportunity now, it appears it's not too far away.

              This is a highlight clip from his tries in the 2021 NSW Cup:


              I don't know whether this contributed to him being released by the Eels after the 2nd year of his 3-year deal, but this doesn't look good:

              https://www.espn.com/nrl/story/_/id/34204129/nrl-south-sydney-rabbitohs-coach-jason-demetriou-plea-nrl-nasty-tackle

              Photo of that tackle:

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                @Canes4life I've not found much info.

                From his Rakaviti profile:

                Age: 22
                Height: 189cm
                Weight - 103kg
                From: Tailevu, Fiji
                School: Ratu Kadavulevu School

                Former RKS Under 18’s Rep Solomone Naiduki is known for being a powerhouse centre with excellent finishing abilities.

                He was reportedly spotted by Raiders scouts on a tour to Australia with the Junior Bati but was ultimately signed by the Eels.

                In his time with RKS he was touted as one of the best finishers in recent years.


                This is from the Roar site:

                Naiduki is the latest Fiji-born Parramatta winger. Naiduki was first scouted in 2018 by the Raiders when representing the Junior Bati as a centre, before a late three-year offer from the Eels secured his services.

                Naiduki fits the prototype of the typical Fijian winger: athletic, quick, strong in contact and a good finisher.

                Naiduki scored three tries in his six NSW Cup appearances last season and contributes handily when coming out of his own end, averaging 152 metres per game.

                With Sivo injured to start the season, Naiduki looked to be likely to start on the wing in Round 1 until the recent signing of Bailey Simonsson.

                He likely needs an injury to one of the starting wingers before a debut, and even then, he will still be competing with two-gamer Sean Russell for a spot.

                Naiduki is no guarantee to play first grade this year but will not let anyone down if selected.ng to google, in 2021, he was a development player with the Eels; in 2022, he was a full squad member, but never cracked the senior playing side.


                And this is from another article:

                Parramatta Eels - Solomone Naiduki

                Another winger out of Fiji, Naiduki will be looking to emulate the success of Semi Radradra and Maika Sivo at Parramatta in the coming years.

                Naiduki scored three tries in six games of NSW Cup last season and is an impressive athlete. He has signed on with the Eels top 30 squad on a one-year deal.

                The 20-year-old is built similarly to Sivo and has already drawn comparisons to his fellow Fijian star, and the rookie will also be looking to make an impact and earn a spot in the World Cup squad next year.

                Before the club signed Bailey Simonsson recently, Naiduki was probably the front-runner to replace the injured Sivo at the start of next season, and while he might have to wait for his opportunity now, it appears it's not too far away.

                This is a highlight clip from his tries in the 2021 NSW Cup:


                I don't know whether this contributed to him being released by the Eels after the 2nd year of his 3-year deal, but this doesn't look good:

                https://www.espn.com/nrl/story/_/id/34204129/nrl-south-sydney-rabbitohs-coach-jason-demetriou-plea-nrl-nasty-tackle

                Photo of that tackle:

                alt text

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                @Stargazer said in Hurricanes 2023:

                @Canes4life I've not found much info.

                From his Rakaviti profile:

                Age: 22
                Height: 189cm
                Weight - 103kg
                From: Tailevu, Fiji
                School: Ratu Kadavulevu School

                Former RKS Under 18’s Rep Solomone Naiduki is known for being a powerhouse centre with excellent finishing abilities.

                He was reportedly spotted by Raiders scouts on a tour to Australia with the Junior Bati but was ultimately signed by the Eels.

                In his time with RKS he was touted as one of the best finishers in recent years.


                This is from the Roar site:

                Naiduki is the latest Fiji-born Parramatta winger. Naiduki was first scouted in 2018 by the Raiders when representing the Junior Bati as a centre, before a late three-year offer from the Eels secured his services.

                Naiduki fits the prototype of the typical Fijian winger: athletic, quick, strong in contact and a good finisher.

                Naiduki scored three tries in his six NSW Cup appearances last season and contributes handily when coming out of his own end, averaging 152 metres per game.

                With Sivo injured to start the season, Naiduki looked to be likely to start on the wing in Round 1 until the recent signing of Bailey Simonsson.

                He likely needs an injury to one of the starting wingers before a debut, and even then, he will still be competing with two-gamer Sean Russell for a spot.

                Naiduki is no guarantee to play first grade this year but will not let anyone down if selected.ng to google, in 2021, he was a development player with the Eels; in 2022, he was a full squad member, but never cracked the senior playing side.


                And this is from another article:

                Parramatta Eels - Solomone Naiduki

                Another winger out of Fiji, Naiduki will be looking to emulate the success of Semi Radradra and Maika Sivo at Parramatta in the coming years.

                Naiduki scored three tries in six games of NSW Cup last season and is an impressive athlete. He has signed on with the Eels top 30 squad on a one-year deal.

                The 20-year-old is built similarly to Sivo and has already drawn comparisons to his fellow Fijian star, and the rookie will also be looking to make an impact and earn a spot in the World Cup squad next year.

                Before the club signed Bailey Simonsson recently, Naiduki was probably the front-runner to replace the injured Sivo at the start of next season, and while he might have to wait for his opportunity now, it appears it's not too far away.

                This is a highlight clip from his tries in the 2021 NSW Cup:


                I don't know whether this contributed to him being released by the Eels after the 2nd year of his 3-year deal, but this doesn't look good:

                https://www.espn.com/nrl/story/_/id/34204129/nrl-south-sydney-rabbitohs-coach-jason-demetriou-plea-nrl-nasty-tackle

                Photo of that tackle:

                alt text

                Nice research, I wonder if he will play NPC next year...

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                  @Canes4life Keil-Schwenke played in 6 games for Manawatū, mostly off the bench as Maile was usually their starting hooker.

                  No, idea what happened to Raymond Tuputupu since he played for the NZU20s in July. I expected him in the Turbos squad, too, ahead of LK-S. In the media release of the NZ U19 team naming it said that he was unavailable. All the others on that unavailable list were playing NPC or 7s. He wasn't. :man_shrugging_medium_skin_tone:

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                  @Stargazer said in Hurricanes 2023:

                  @Canes4life Keil-Schwenke played in 6 games for Manawatū, mostly off the bench as Maile was usually their starting hooker.

                  No, idea what happened to Raymond Tuputupu since he played for the NZU20s in July. I expected him in the Turbos squad, too, ahead of LK-S. In the media release of the NZ U19 team naming it said that he was unavailable. All the others on that unavailable list were playing NPC or 7s. He wasn't. :man_shrugging_medium_skin_tone:

                  Just came across this: Manawatu will have two very good young hookers next year in Bason and Tuputupu.

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                    @Stargazer said in Hurricanes 2023:

                    @Canes4life Keil-Schwenke played in 6 games for Manawatū, mostly off the bench as Maile was usually their starting hooker.

                    No, idea what happened to Raymond Tuputupu since he played for the NZU20s in July. I expected him in the Turbos squad, too, ahead of LK-S. In the media release of the NZ U19 team naming it said that he was unavailable. All the others on that unavailable list were playing NPC or 7s. He wasn't. :man_shrugging_medium_skin_tone:

                    Just came across this: Manawatu will have two very good young hookers next year in Bason and Tuputupu.

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                    @Canes4life Very, very young, too. Bason signed straight out of school. Tuputupu one year out of school. Especially with forwards, their workload will have to be carefully managed.

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                      Carlos Hihi running around with the Hurricanes:

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                        Carlos Hihi running around with the Hurricanes:

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                        @Canes4life He's a first five-eighth straight out of Gisborne Boys'.

                        He was one of three Poverty Bay players invited to attend the Hurricanes U18 Development Camp, two months ago.

                        He wasn't initially named in the Tūranga Tāne (Poverty Bay Development) team, but played at least one game for that team against Thames Valley Development, this year.

                        Not much else to find about him on google, except this:

                        https://www.teaomaori.news/talented-9-year-old-wins-gold-auckland-international-judo-championship

                        He must have moved from Rotorua Boys' to Gisborne Boys', because in this team list of the New Zealand U16 Touch team of 2020 (posted by Rotorua Boys' HS), he was listed as from Bay of Plenty.

                        https://www.facebook.com/rotoruaboyshighschool/posts/congratulations-to-carlos-hihi-who-was-named-in-the-new-zealand-u16-touch-team/3561716727184126/

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                          @Canes4life He's a first five-eighth straight out of Gisborne Boys'.

                          He was one of three Poverty Bay players invited to attend the Hurricanes U18 Development Camp, two months ago.

                          He wasn't initially named in the Tūranga Tāne (Poverty Bay Development) team, but played at least one game for that team against Thames Valley Development, this year.

                          Not much else to find about him on google, except this:

                          https://www.teaomaori.news/talented-9-year-old-wins-gold-auckland-international-judo-championship

                          He must have moved from Rotorua Boys' to Gisborne Boys', because in this team list of the New Zealand U16 Touch team of 2020 (posted by Rotorua Boys' HS), he was listed as from Bay of Plenty.

                          https://www.facebook.com/rotoruaboyshighschool/posts/congratulations-to-carlos-hihi-who-was-named-in-the-new-zealand-u16-touch-team/3561716727184126/

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                          @Stargazer Oh out of Poverty Bay, which means he will probably end up at NTOB and as part of the HB Academy!

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                            Anyone else think the Canes missed a trick not signing Tito in some capacity?

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                              Anyone else think the Canes missed a trick not signing Tito in some capacity?

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                              @mikey07 Instead of Chris Gibbes, the current forwards coach?

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                                @mikey07 Instead of Chris Gibbes, the current forwards coach?

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                                @Stargazer Yeah look what he did for the Lions forward pack which is essentially the Canes forward pack anyway.

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                                  @Stargazer Yeah look what he did for the Lions forward pack which is essentially the Canes forward pack anyway.

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                                  @mikey07 said in Hurricanes 2023:

                                  @Stargazer Yeah look what he did for the Lions forward pack which is essentially the Canes forward pack anyway.

                                  Uhm, Wellington may have the largest representation in the Canes overall and in their forward pack, but the majority of Hurricanes forwards doesn't play for Wellington.

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                                    @mikey07 Instead of Chris Gibbes, the current forwards coach?

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                                    @Stargazer said in Hurricanes 2023:

                                    @mikey07 Instead of Chris Gibbes, the current forwards coach?

                                    or maybe instead of Jamie Mackintosh?

                                    they could've moved Gibbes to scrum and Paul Tito forwards/line-out

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                                      @mikey07 said in Hurricanes 2023:

                                      @Stargazer Yeah look what he did for the Lions forward pack which is essentially the Canes forward pack anyway.

                                      Uhm, Wellington may have the largest representation in the Canes overall and in their forward pack, but the majority of Hurricanes forwards doesn't play for Wellington.

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                                        @mikey07 said in Hurricanes 2023:

                                        @Stargazer Yeah look what he did for the Lions forward pack which is essentially the Canes forward pack anyway.

                                        Uhm, Wellington may have the largest representation in the Canes overall and in their forward pack, but the majority of Hurricanes forwards doesn't play for Wellington.

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                                        @Stargazer Just curious do you not agree that he should be involved in place of Gibbes.

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                                          @Stargazer said in Hurricanes 2023:

                                          @mikey07 Instead of Chris Gibbes, the current forwards coach?

                                          or maybe instead of Jamie Mackintosh?

                                          they could've moved Gibbes to scrum and Paul Tito forwards/line-out

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                                          @kiwi_expat totally agree I fail to see why Mackintosh is actually there.

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