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  • sparkyS Offline
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    I've enjoyed Eddie's confident chat over the years. He brightens up a bland world and is a respected foe.

    Good luck to him with his next appointment!

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      Whilst I've found Eddie's selection and intransigence around some players and positions over the last couple of years both mystifying and annoying, I am not sure now is the time to get rid of him. If this had happened a year ago I'd be more comfortable with it and to be honest the same signs that we're seeing today were there 12 months ago. Is this sacking a bit of a knee-jerk reaction to the the booing from the Twickenham crowd? I'd be surprised if that wasn't a large part of the driver here.

      Anyway, thank you Eddie for dragging us out of the misery of 2015 and providing some real memories. Grand Slam, 3 6N titles, series whitewash in Aus, 18 match winning streak, dismantling of Ireland pre RWC 2019, first win over NZ in a RWC (with a great performance to boot)and reaching the RWC final (the less said about THAT game the better). Finally another series win from behind in Aus.

      Much to be grateful for as an England supporter.

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      • Victor MeldrewV Victor Meldrew

        @MajorRage said in NH International Rugby:

        For all the negatives being written about Eddie, one thing must always be respected.

        The English rugby media absolutely hated him.

        He deserves credit for at no point towing the line to that complete bunch of piston wristed gibbons.

        While I take your point, I recall the piston wristed gibbons who pose as rugby journalists praised him to the skies when he was winning and thought him a rugby genius.

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        #2795

        @Victor-Meldrew said in NH International Rugby:

        @MajorRage said in NH International Rugby:

        For all the negatives being written about Eddie, one thing must always be respected.

        The English rugby media absolutely hated him.

        He deserves credit for at no point towing the line to that complete bunch of piston wristed gibbons.

        While I take your point, I recall the piston wristed gibbons who pose as rugby journalists praised him to the skies when he was winning and thought him a rugby genius.

        They did the same with Woodward and Johnson. We know they're fluffybunnies and we shouldn't be surprised.

        Edit: In this instance I'm a bit annoyed about the fluffybunny filter.

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        • sparkyS Offline
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          This made me chuckle.

          https://twitter.com/RugbyPhilBB/status/1600187402386956288?t=DHmLcLtB9KYumliZPHTZ5w&s=19

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          • sparkyS Offline
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            Looks like Borthwick is going to get the England gig.

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            • Victor MeldrewV Victor Meldrew

              @MajorRage said in NH International Rugby:

              For all the negatives being written about Eddie, one thing must always be respected.

              The English rugby media absolutely hated him.

              He deserves credit for at no point towing the line to that complete bunch of piston wristed gibbons.

              While I take your point, I recall the piston wristed gibbons who pose as rugby journalists praised him to the skies when he was winning and thought him a rugby genius.

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              #2798

              @Victor-Meldrew said in NH International Rugby:

              @MajorRage said in NH International Rugby:

              For all the negatives being written about Eddie, one thing must always be respected.

              The English rugby media absolutely hated him.

              He deserves credit for at no point towing the line to that complete bunch of piston wristed gibbons.

              While I take your point, I recall the piston wristed gibbons who pose as rugby journalists praised him to the skies when he was winning and thought him a rugby genius.

              He is a rugby genius. Just has a use by date!

              When they turned on him he doubled down and told them he didn’t give a fuck what they wrote.

              https://mobile.twitter.com/stephenjones9/status/1600120873511686144?cxt=HHwWgMDQ9Zzd4rQsAAAA

              https://mobile.twitter.com/owenslot/status/1599834419883167746?cxt=HHwWhMCiibe74LMsAAAA

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              • mariner4lifeM Online
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                there is a part of me that wants England to win the World Cup now

                for the simple fact it will stop Unions hanging on to coaches they don't want on the false premise that it is the only way to approach the tournament.

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                • antipodeanA Online
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                  #2800

                  Matt Giteau thinks that's all that matters:
                  https://twitter.com/giteau_rugby/status/1600075826061459456

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                  • antipodeanA antipodean

                    Matt Giteau thinks that's all that matters:
                    https://twitter.com/giteau_rugby/status/1600075826061459456

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                    @antipodean Matt Shiteau thinks the RWC is the only thing that matters because he fucked off overseas but wanted to come back and play the World Cup, and the stupid fucking Wallabies let him.

                    His name is actually synonymous in Aus rugby for having your fat overseas paycheck cake, and eating it too. they fucking literally named the rule after him. Fuck off Matt.

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                    • mariner4lifeM mariner4life

                      there is a part of me that wants England to win the World Cup now

                      for the simple fact it will stop Unions hanging on to coaches they don't want on the false premise that it is the only way to approach the tournament.

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                      @mariner4life said in NH International Rugby:

                      there is a part of me that wants England to win the World Cup now

                      for the simple fact it will stop Unions hanging on to coaches they don't want on the false premise that it is the only way to approach the tournament.

                      Or Wales...

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                        #2803

                        Womens rugby in Ireland gets plenty of money pumped into it increasing their budget to €5,500,000.00 per annum, and on top of that is another million euro extra going is was well this coming year.

                        https://ulster.rugby/content/independent-review-sets-a-positive-pathway-for-womens-rugby-in-ireland?fbclid=IwAR0V8aPeV8YGDDrP0btHmSdUuEhYrNJlLkLPADvQz_L65zPs37ihDJO1_Tc

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                        • HigginsH Higgins

                          Womens rugby in Ireland gets plenty of money pumped into it increasing their budget to €5,500,000.00 per annum, and on top of that is another million euro extra going is was well this coming year.

                          https://ulster.rugby/content/independent-review-sets-a-positive-pathway-for-womens-rugby-in-ireland?fbclid=IwAR0V8aPeV8YGDDrP0btHmSdUuEhYrNJlLkLPADvQz_L65zPs37ihDJO1_Tc

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                          @Higgins said in NH International Rugby:

                          Womens rugby in Ireland gets plenty of money pumped into it increasing their budget to €5,500,000.00 per annum, and on top of that is another million euro extra going is was well this coming year.

                          https://ulster.rugby/content/independent-review-sets-a-positive-pathway-for-womens-rugby-in-ireland?fbclid=IwAR0V8aPeV8YGDDrP0btHmSdUuEhYrNJlLkLPADvQz_L65zPs37ihDJO1_Tc

                          Whoa, that's a lot of money - I'd be interested in what the women's rugby budget is here, nowhere near that I'd guess.

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                            @Higgins said in NH International Rugby:

                            Womens rugby in Ireland gets plenty of money pumped into it increasing their budget to €5,500,000.00 per annum, and on top of that is another million euro extra going is was well this coming year.

                            https://ulster.rugby/content/independent-review-sets-a-positive-pathway-for-womens-rugby-in-ireland?fbclid=IwAR0V8aPeV8YGDDrP0btHmSdUuEhYrNJlLkLPADvQz_L65zPs37ihDJO1_Tc

                            Whoa, that's a lot of money - I'd be interested in what the women's rugby budget is here, nowhere near that I'd guess.

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                            @Machpants NZ budget was $17M in 2021 and $27M in 2022 (with $10M of that going directly into RWC) from a total of $138m of 'Teams in Black' playing and competition expenses.

                            Sounds a lot but adds up fast with squads in the 30s and support staff in the dozens

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                                #2807

                                All the other top coaches seem to respect him. The public perception is pretty much down to his never ending desire to stir.
                                That is a real stirring as well not just a media thing. Look at the numbers of players used yet he still pretty much returns to his “favourites” quickly. That can be thought of as searching and not knowing but I reckon it is a tactic to keep his preferences on their toes.
                                Then there is coaching staff. He is always looking for different views and voices but they can be seen from the outside as not being able to get along.

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                                  #2808

                                  Story of the weekend. Awesome from Eddie.

                                  https://www.telegraph.co.uk/rugby-union/2022/12/10/eddie-jones-makes-rapid-return-coaching-england/

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                                  • sparkyS sparky

                                    Story of the weekend. Awesome from Eddie.

                                    https://www.telegraph.co.uk/rugby-union/2022/12/10/eddie-jones-makes-rapid-return-coaching-england/

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                                    #2809

                                    @sparky said in NH International Rugby:

                                    Story of the weekend. Awesome from Eddie.

                                    https://www.telegraph.co.uk/rugby-union/2022/12/10/eddie-jones-makes-rapid-return-coaching-england/

                                    It's paywalled so you'll need to explain what makes it story of the weekend.

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                                    • NepiaN Nepia

                                      @sparky said in NH International Rugby:

                                      Story of the weekend. Awesome from Eddie.

                                      https://www.telegraph.co.uk/rugby-union/2022/12/10/eddie-jones-makes-rapid-return-coaching-england/

                                      It's paywalled so you'll need to explain what makes it story of the weekend.

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                                      #2810

                                      @Nepia Eddie Jones coached some under 10s in a London park with massive enthusiasm for over an hour in freezing conditions. No obvious links between him and the club. He had walked there and then walked off at the end. Some of the parents weren't sure it was actually him.

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                                      • NepiaN Nepia

                                        @sparky said in NH International Rugby:

                                        Story of the weekend. Awesome from Eddie.

                                        https://www.telegraph.co.uk/rugby-union/2022/12/10/eddie-jones-makes-rapid-return-coaching-england/

                                        It's paywalled so you'll need to explain what makes it story of the weekend.

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                                        @Nepia b9e152be-4954-4239-87cb-da444463d0ad-image.png

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                                          @Nepia b9e152be-4954-4239-87cb-da444463d0ad-image.png

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                                          #2812

                                          @Stargazer

                                          That’s a great story and reminds me of Jerry Collins turning out for Bideford 2nd XV when he was in the area.

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