Guitarists
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@Crucial said in Guitarists:
Bass
Jamerson
Pastorius
Kaye
Entwhistle
Dunn
Bootsy
Macca
Louis Johnson
JPJ
ShakespeareEdit: honourable mention of Lemmy because….well Lemmy
All worth mentioning apart from a couple who would be absolutely no where near my list.
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@MN5 said in Guitarists:
@Crucial said in Guitarists:
Bass
Jamerson
Pastorius
Kaye
Entwhistle
Dunn
Bootsy
Macca
Louis Johnson
JPJ
ShakespeareEdit: honourable mention of Lemmy because….well Lemmy
All worth mentioning apart from a couple who would be absolutely no where near my list.
I’m guessing Thunder Thumbs and Robbie S?
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@Crucial said in Guitarists:
@MN5 said in Guitarists:
@Crucial said in Guitarists:
Bass
Jamerson
Pastorius
Kaye
Entwhistle
Dunn
Bootsy
Macca
Louis Johnson
JPJ
ShakespeareEdit: honourable mention of Lemmy because….well Lemmy
All worth mentioning apart from a couple who would be absolutely no where near my list.
I’m guessing Thunder Thumbs and Robbie S?
No…..
The Beatle ( seriously, they wrote what people consider great pop songs, but NONE of them were musical prodigies )
…..and “Duck” Dunn ( just a solid blues bassist, nothing more )
Louis Johnson was a fucken awesome player. I learnt a fair bit from his hot licks video…..
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@MN5 you probably noticed that my list had a fair leaning toward creating big selling songs.
Jaco is only there as if he wasn’t someone would scream at the lack of credibility and Bootsy because I love his early playing with James Brown.I thought about whether Macca deserved to be there but when he started experimenting in later Beatles records he showed some very inventive layering to the songs. Plus I had to have a Rickenbacker in there.
Duck Dunn wasn’t flashy but like Kaye you can’t dispute the results.
Favs that I haven’t put on are Pallidino, Watt-Roy, Hook and Foxton
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@Crucial said in Guitarists:
@MN5 you probably noticed that my list had a fair leaning toward creating big selling songs.
Jaco is only there as if he wasn’t someone would scream at the lack of credibility and Bootsy because I love his early playing with James Brown.I thought about whether Macca deserved to be there but when he started experimenting in later Beatles records he showed some very inventive layering to the songs. Plus I had to have a Rickenbacker in there.
Duck Dunn wasn’t flashy but like Kaye you can’t dispute the results.
Favs that I haven’t put on are Pallidino, Watt-Roy, Hook and Foxton
Kaye did this cool bassline which I always admired ( the music is as iconic as the film )
Watt Roy ? Weird looking fucker but shit he did some brilliant lines.
Bootsy was actually pretty restrained with James Brown, he came into his own later on.
The Beatles as I’ve said on here repeatedly aren’t really to my taste overall but I certainly can’t deny their legacy…..but that is as lyricists and song crafters, not musos.
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@broughie said in Guitarists:
@Victor-Meldrew Based on that crowd you must like Knopfler then? He did some work with Chet Atkins which is fun to listen to. He is exceptional but probably misses the guitar God category because he is not really a rocker. But the way he strings together notes with different volumes is fantastic.
Yep. He's great and there's some fantastic videos of the two together on YT. I really don't have any preference (enjoy Clapton, Peter Green et, al) , but it's just that I've only recently discovered some of the ones I've mentioned. As for Rock, do a YT search & check out Glen Campbell ripping it up on "McArthur Park"
A family member is a semi-pro guitarist and it's great to hear his take on people and their abilities & pointing out players, technique and skills I never knew existed. He rates Alan Holdsworth and Roy Clark as the two greatest guitarists he's heard/seen and regards Mr Chet as being arguably the most influential of them all across the genres
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@Crucial said in Guitarists:
Duck Dunn wasn’t flashy but like Kaye you can’t dispute the results.
Yep. You don't have to be flashy to be a great musician - understatement is a great virtue. Clapton rarely over-plays.
Carol Kaye played on 10,000 recordings and over 1.000 hit records & was amazingly inventive in song after song over a 40 year career. That she played bass on Pet Sounds and the the Mission Impossible TV theme is, I guess, all you need to know.
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@Victor-Meldrew said in Guitarists:
@Crucial said in Guitarists:
Duck Dunn wasn’t flashy but like Kaye you can’t dispute the results.
Yep. You don't have to be flashy to be a great musician - understatement is a great virtue. Clapton rarely over-plays.
Carol Kaye played on 10,000 recordings and over 1.000 hit records & was amazingly inventive in song after song over a 40 year career. That she played bass on Pet Sounds and the the Mission Impossible TV theme is, I guess, all you need to know.
I’m not sure I’d stay awake long enough to notice.
Clapton hasn’t done anything brilliant with the guitar since the early 70s.
Very good at stealing other peoples songs though.
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@MN5 said in Guitarists:
@Victor-Meldrew said in Guitarists:
@Crucial said in Guitarists:
Duck Dunn wasn’t flashy but like Kaye you can’t dispute the results.
Yep. You don't have to be flashy to be a great musician - understatement is a great virtue. Clapton rarely over-plays.
Carol Kaye played on 10,000 recordings and over 1.000 hit records & was amazingly inventive in song after song over a 40 year career. That she played bass on Pet Sounds and the the Mission Impossible TV theme is, I guess, all you need to know.
I’m not sure I’d stay awake long enough to notice.
Clapton hasn’t done anything brilliant with the guitar since the early 70s.
Very good at stealing other peoples songs though.
That's brutal. Never gravitated to Clapton stuff but he is talented and his guitar solos are smooth and fit in with whatever he plays. But not guitar god material since I think that means in a rock band with notoriety.
Really are so many great guitarists out there. I appreciate them in the context of the songs they play. Like Roberts Plants guitarist in the 29 palms era. Love his style. Or, this will set off the locals, Miranda Lamberts guitarist over the years with great rock country licks. All talent I envy.
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@broughie said in Guitarists:
@MN5 said in Guitarists:
@Victor-Meldrew said in Guitarists:
@Crucial said in Guitarists:
Duck Dunn wasn’t flashy but like Kaye you can’t dispute the results.
Yep. You don't have to be flashy to be a great musician - understatement is a great virtue. Clapton rarely over-plays.
Carol Kaye played on 10,000 recordings and over 1.000 hit records & was amazingly inventive in song after song over a 40 year career. That she played bass on Pet Sounds and the the Mission Impossible TV theme is, I guess, all you need to know.
I’m not sure I’d stay awake long enough to notice.
Clapton hasn’t done anything brilliant with the guitar since the early 70s.
Very good at stealing other peoples songs though.
That's brutal. Never gravitated to Clapton stuff but he is talented and his guitar solos are smooth and fit in with whatever he plays. But not guitar god material since I think that means in a rock band with notoriety.
Really are so many great guitarists out there. I appreciate them in the context of the songs they play. Like Roberts Plants guitarist in the 29 palms era. Love his style. Or, this will set off the locals, Miranda Lamberts guitarist over the years with great rock country licks. All talent I envy.
A bit tongue in cheek, I genuinely dig some of his songs….a lot. Let it Grow, Motherless Children, Behind the Mask ( jeez Eric, you stole this one too ), Forever Man etc are bangers.
It’s just the guitar god status he has for whatever reason that grinds. He does some nice stuff but there’s others who impress me much more.
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@MN5 said in Guitarists:
@broughie said in Guitarists:
@MN5 said in Guitarists:
@Victor-Meldrew said in Guitarists:
@Crucial said in Guitarists:
Duck Dunn wasn’t flashy but like Kaye you can’t dispute the results.
Yep. You don't have to be flashy to be a great musician - understatement is a great virtue. Clapton rarely over-plays.
Carol Kaye played on 10,000 recordings and over 1.000 hit records & was amazingly inventive in song after song over a 40 year career. That she played bass on Pet Sounds and the the Mission Impossible TV theme is, I guess, all you need to know.
I’m not sure I’d stay awake long enough to notice.
Clapton hasn’t done anything brilliant with the guitar since the early 70s.
Very good at stealing other peoples songs though.
That's brutal. Never gravitated to Clapton stuff but he is talented and his guitar solos are smooth and fit in with whatever he plays. But not guitar god material since I think that means in a rock band with notoriety.
Really are so many great guitarists out there. I appreciate them in the context of the songs they play. Like Roberts Plants guitarist in the 29 palms era. Love his style. Or, this will set off the locals, Miranda Lamberts guitarist over the years with great rock country licks. All talent I envy.
A bit tongue in cheek, I genuinely dig some of his songs….a lot. Let it Grow, Motherless Children, Behind the Mask ( jeez Eric, you stole this one too ), Forever Man etc are bangers.
It’s just the guitar god status he has for whatever reason that grinds. He does some nice stuff but there’s others who impress me much more.
TBF, I haven't seen/heard him do anything which makes you go "wow" for what seems to be decades - since he seemed to turn into more of a singer than a guitar soloist. He seemed to start playing for the song rather than show his chops.
"Edge of Darkness" is a tour de force of guitar work though. Brilliantly atmospheric playing.
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@MN5
I figured as much. I love motherless Child. That's probably the first song that I heard him sing that I really liked.I've also been listening to some to some Deep Purple and I knew a lot of their songs. Blackmore is good but it is him and the organist that makes their sound, from my limited listening. Yeah I grew up under a rock but broadening my horizons.
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@broughie said in Guitarists:
@MN5
I figured as much. I love motherless Child. That's probably the first song that I heard him sing that I really liked.I've also been listening to some to some Deep Purple and I knew a lot of their songs. Blackmore is good but it is him and the organist that makes their sound, from my limited listening. Yeah I grew up under a rock but broadening my horizons.
Richie was absolutely awesome and a real showman. His guitar work on the whole “In Rock” album is so dynamic and innovative. Sounds like a difficult arsehole too but I guess that’s rock n roll. Wicked fast runs inspired by classical music but also some really soulful blues licks.
I like the way Jon Lord fills the void with his organ sound but find his solos a bit tiresome.
Ian Paice is a beast on the drums, every bit as good as Bonham, Baker, Moon etc.
Glover is just a solid player who lets the others shine.
…….and Deep Purple have gone on about 40 years too long. I remember they sounded like tired old rockers when they released “The Battle Rages on” when I was at college….Christ knows what they sound like now but I suspect pretty dire. I heard they released an album during COVID and I can’t help but cringe in embarrassment at the thought. Blackmore and Lord are long gone having left to become strange minstrels and dying respectively.
But from about 1970-1973 they were untouchable.
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@MN5 said in Guitarists:
he Beatle ( seriously, they wrote what people consider great pop songs, but NONE of them were musical prodigies )
Lot's of guitarists disagree with you about McCartney's bass playing and just toi really yank your chain, he is also rated by many as a lead guitarist. He was only ever the bass player for the Beatles because no one else would do it but played on things like Helter Skelter so has some chops.
Not that I would have him in my top 10 but he's better than you give him credit for.
Another worthy of a mention (if he hasn't already been name checked) is Robert Fripp. Before he went all prog with ELP and then Eno he knocked out some bangers with King Crimson. All the more remarkable as he is tone deaf
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