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FIFA World Cup 2022

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    Mackerzzzz
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    Well deserved win for Argentina. France looked off all game.

    Messi has finished the GOAT argument once and for all

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    • Billy TellB Billy Tell

      That was a decent effort. Messi was the star. Don’t think Argentina are taking home the trophy. Will this be a kiss of death comment…?

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      @Billy-Tell said in FIFA World Cup 2022:

      That was a decent effort. Messi was the star. Don’t think Argentina are taking home the trophy. Will this be a kiss of death comment…?

      Yes it will be.

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      • sparkyS sparky

        Mbappe with a penalty. 3-3. Hat trick in a World Cup final matching Sir Geoff Hurst.

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        @sparky said in FIFA World Cup 2022:

        Mbappe with a penalty. 3-3. Hat trick in a World Cup final matching Sir Geoff Hurst.

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          MiketheSnow
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          Brilliant finale to a tremendous tournament

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            Weird trophy ceremony.

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            • KiwiPieK Offline
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              KiwiPie
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              Argentina certainly deserved that victory but the drama was really enjoyable. They completely smothered France in the first half, never gave them any space and time on the ball and were slick with the ball. Di Maria couldn't be controlled by the French right side. Second half, France began to at least get some possession but until Otamendi did what Otamendi does you couldn't really see them scoring - and then the equaliser was just a superbly worked goal.

              Extra time was much better than most of them as both teams tried to get a winner instead of sitting back. Nice move for the Messi goal. Even with a minute to go both teams have good chances to win it.

              Always felt Argentina would win a shoot-out and Martinez is a good penalty stopper - he dives up and forwards and is hard to get past he he guesses the right way.

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              • M Mackerzzzz

                Well deserved win for Argentina. France looked off all game.

                Messi has finished the GOAT argument once and for all

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                @Mackerzzzz said in FIFA World Cup 2022:

                Messi has finished the GOAT argument once and for all

                Of the modern generation without a doubt but of all time. Yaeh, nah.

                Ignoring all the well documented host issues, a great tournament, despite, (because of?), the absence of a single great team.

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                • dogmeatD dogmeat

                  @Mackerzzzz said in FIFA World Cup 2022:

                  Messi has finished the GOAT argument once and for all

                  Of the modern generation without a doubt but of all time. Yaeh, nah.

                  Ignoring all the well documented host issues, a great tournament, despite, (because of?), the absence of a single great team.

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                  KiwiPie
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                  @dogmeat said in FIFA World Cup 2022:

                  @Mackerzzzz said in FIFA World Cup 2022:

                  Messi has finished the GOAT argument once and for all

                  Of the modern generation without a doubt but of all time. Yaeh, nah.

                  Ignoring all the well documented host issues, a great tournament, despite, (because of?), the absence of a single great team.

                  That could fill up the time until Christmas arguing about the football GOAT. Maradona at his peak was greater than Messi but his peak was relatively short compared to Messi. Pele is in the conversation as well - who else would you put forward?

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                    KiwiPie
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                    Positive things about this World Cup.

                    Great support for certain non-European teams.
                    Generally very entertaining football and lots of drama.
                    Enough upsets to be fun but 2 good teams in the final.
                    Absence of crowd trouble (linked to absence of Europeans and alcohol).

                    Negative things from watching it on TV in NZ.

                    BeiN coverage. Keys/Gray and their mates are awful. Peter Drury.

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                    • KiwiPieK KiwiPie

                      @dogmeat said in FIFA World Cup 2022:

                      @Mackerzzzz said in FIFA World Cup 2022:

                      Messi has finished the GOAT argument once and for all

                      Of the modern generation without a doubt but of all time. Yaeh, nah.

                      Ignoring all the well documented host issues, a great tournament, despite, (because of?), the absence of a single great team.

                      That could fill up the time until Christmas arguing about the football GOAT. Maradona at his peak was greater than Messi but his peak was relatively short compared to Messi. Pele is in the conversation as well - who else would you put forward?

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                      broughie
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                      @KiwiPie I agree. I find the whole goat conversation boring. Really hard to compare players from different eras.

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                      • KiwiPieK KiwiPie

                        @dogmeat said in FIFA World Cup 2022:

                        @Mackerzzzz said in FIFA World Cup 2022:

                        Messi has finished the GOAT argument once and for all

                        Of the modern generation without a doubt but of all time. Yaeh, nah.

                        Ignoring all the well documented host issues, a great tournament, despite, (because of?), the absence of a single great team.

                        That could fill up the time until Christmas arguing about the football GOAT. Maradona at his peak was greater than Messi but his peak was relatively short compared to Messi. Pele is in the conversation as well - who else would you put forward?

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                        dogmeat
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                        @KiwiPie I agree with @broughie - impossible to compare across eras. Some of the goals scored in this era would never have been scored even 20 years ago because the attacking player would have been hacked down.

                        On the other hand modern players are fitter and faster and teams generally have more sophisticated tactics. 2-3-5 anyone?

                        Messi has the record for this era, but Pele and Maradona have to be in the same pantheon. Cruyff maybe Si stefano?

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                        • MajorPomM Away
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                          MajorPom
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                          Superb tournament in the end.

                          They aren’t without issue but they way Qatar completely ignored all the virtue signaling bullshit and dealt harshly with the actual activists is a lesson to us all.

                          Alcohol free around the stadiums is the benchmark. Brilliant fans, atmosphere without trouble.

                          And the final so much better than any scripted drama. Phenomenal.

                          Messi’s tournament.

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                            bayimports
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                            What an epic final to finish the tournament, well done Argentina and Messi! Some classic goals scored as well...

                            Messi and Pele probably can have their own debates, while Ronaldo probably throwing toys out of the cot right now lol..

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                            • MajorPomM MajorPom

                              Superb tournament in the end.

                              They aren’t without issue but they way Qatar completely ignored all the virtue signaling bullshit and dealt harshly with the actual activists is a lesson to us all.

                              Alcohol free around the stadiums is the benchmark. Brilliant fans, atmosphere without trouble.

                              And the final so much better than any scripted drama. Phenomenal.

                              Messi’s tournament.

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                              @MajorRage said in FIFA World Cup 2022:

                              Superb tournament in the end.

                              They aren’t without issue but they way Qatar completely ignored all the virtue signaling bullshit and dealt harshly with the actual activists is a lesson to us all.

                              Are you serious? Not without issue? The human rights issues in Qatar are extremely serious and calling them out on that is absolutely not virtue signaling. Absolutely insane they placed a WC there.

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                              • No QuarterN No Quarter

                                @MajorRage said in FIFA World Cup 2022:

                                Superb tournament in the end.

                                They aren’t without issue but they way Qatar completely ignored all the virtue signaling bullshit and dealt harshly with the actual activists is a lesson to us all.

                                Are you serious? Not without issue? The human rights issues in Qatar are extremely serious and calling them out on that is absolutely not virtue signaling. Absolutely insane they placed a WC there.

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                                MajorPom
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                                @No-Quarter said in FIFA World Cup 2022:

                                @MajorRage said in FIFA World Cup 2022:

                                Superb tournament in the end.

                                They aren’t without issue but they way Qatar completely ignored all the virtue signaling bullshit and dealt harshly with the actual activists is a lesson to us all.

                                Are you serious? Not without issue? The human rights issues in Qatar are extremely serious and calling them out on that is absolutely not virtue signaling. Absolutely insane they placed a WC there.

                                Read it again and this time have a think without flying off the handle.

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                                • M Mackerzzzz

                                  Well deserved win for Argentina. France looked off all game.

                                  Messi has finished the GOAT argument once and for all

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                                  @Mackerzzzz said in FIFA World Cup 2022:

                                  Well deserved win for Argentina. France looked off all game.

                                  They deserved to win because they got more penalties in the shoot out. What happened in the previous 120 minutes didn’t really matter because it was a 3-3 at the end of it.

                                  It’s not like you take momentum into a penalty shoot out. It’s a whole new ball game.

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                                  • MajorPomM MajorPom

                                    @No-Quarter said in FIFA World Cup 2022:

                                    @MajorRage said in FIFA World Cup 2022:

                                    Superb tournament in the end.

                                    They aren’t without issue but they way Qatar completely ignored all the virtue signaling bullshit and dealt harshly with the actual activists is a lesson to us all.

                                    Are you serious? Not without issue? The human rights issues in Qatar are extremely serious and calling them out on that is absolutely not virtue signaling. Absolutely insane they placed a WC there.

                                    Read it again and this time have a think without flying off the handle.

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                                    No Quarter
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                                    @MajorRage said in FIFA World Cup 2022:

                                    @No-Quarter said in FIFA World Cup 2022:

                                    @MajorRage said in FIFA World Cup 2022:

                                    Superb tournament in the end.

                                    They aren’t without issue but they way Qatar completely ignored all the virtue signaling bullshit and dealt harshly with the actual activists is a lesson to us all.

                                    Are you serious? Not without issue? The human rights issues in Qatar are extremely serious and calling them out on that is absolutely not virtue signaling. Absolutely insane they placed a WC there.

                                    Read it again and this time have a think without flying off the handle.

                                    The "without issue" part felt like you were playing down their atrocious human rights abuses a bit. I'll admit I don't have the context of your comment about shutting down the virtue signalers though, as I really haven't followed this WC at all. I think holding the tournament there summed up everything that is wrong with the world today. To hell with human rights if there's money involved - that applies to western countries too.

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                                    • No QuarterN No Quarter

                                      @MajorRage said in FIFA World Cup 2022:

                                      @No-Quarter said in FIFA World Cup 2022:

                                      @MajorRage said in FIFA World Cup 2022:

                                      Superb tournament in the end.

                                      They aren’t without issue but they way Qatar completely ignored all the virtue signaling bullshit and dealt harshly with the actual activists is a lesson to us all.

                                      Are you serious? Not without issue? The human rights issues in Qatar are extremely serious and calling them out on that is absolutely not virtue signaling. Absolutely insane they placed a WC there.

                                      Read it again and this time have a think without flying off the handle.

                                      The "without issue" part felt like you were playing down their atrocious human rights abuses a bit. I'll admit I don't have the context of your comment about shutting down the virtue signalers though, as I really haven't followed this WC at all. I think holding the tournament there summed up everything that is wrong with the world today. To hell with human rights if there's money involved - that applies to western countries too.

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                                      @No-Quarter said in FIFA World Cup 2022:

                                      @MajorRage said in FIFA World Cup 2022:

                                      @No-Quarter said in FIFA World Cup 2022:

                                      @MajorRage said in FIFA World Cup 2022:

                                      Superb tournament in the end.

                                      They aren’t without issue but they way Qatar completely ignored all the virtue signaling bullshit and dealt harshly with the actual activists is a lesson to us all.

                                      Are you serious? Not without issue? The human rights issues in Qatar are extremely serious and calling them out on that is absolutely not virtue signaling. Absolutely insane they placed a WC there.

                                      Read it again and this time have a think without flying off the handle.

                                      The "without issue" part felt like you were playing down their atrocious human rights abuses a bit. I'll admit I don't have the context of your comment about shutting down the virtue signalers though, as I really haven't followed this WC at all. I think holding the tournament there summed up everything that is wrong with the world today. To hell with human rights if there's money involved - that applies to western countries too.

                                      They were banking on the fact that once the games started, people would forget the surrounding context.

                                      Seems to have worked right now (that’s not a comment on MR’s post, but what I’m seeing in the media).

                                      The Messi championship might push back the horrible parts for a while too.

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                                      • broughieB broughie

                                        Hate penalty shootouts. Should play the game like hockey. Play until there is a winner.

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                                        @broughie said in FIFA World Cup 2022:

                                        Hate penalty shootouts. Should play the game like hockey. Play until there is a winner.

                                        ice hockey? that goes to a shootout after OT

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                                        • MajorPomM MajorPom

                                          @No-Quarter said in FIFA World Cup 2022:

                                          @MajorRage said in FIFA World Cup 2022:

                                          Superb tournament in the end.

                                          They aren’t without issue but they way Qatar completely ignored all the virtue signaling bullshit and dealt harshly with the actual activists is a lesson to us all.

                                          Are you serious? Not without issue? The human rights issues in Qatar are extremely serious and calling them out on that is absolutely not virtue signaling. Absolutely insane they placed a WC there.

                                          Read it again and this time have a think without flying off the handle.

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                                          @MajorRage said in FIFA World Cup 2022:

                                          @No-Quarter said in FIFA World Cup 2022:

                                          @MajorRage said in FIFA World Cup 2022:

                                          Superb tournament in the end.

                                          They aren’t without issue but they way Qatar completely ignored all the virtue signaling bullshit and dealt harshly with the actual activists is a lesson to us all.

                                          Are you serious? Not without issue? The human rights issues in Qatar are extremely serious and calling them out on that is absolutely not virtue signaling. Absolutely insane they placed a WC there.

                                          Read it again and this time have a think without flying off the handle.

                                          To be fair that’s not really the fern way.

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