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    https://twitter.com/EnglandRugby/status/1604808662731694080

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      https://twitter.com/EnglandRugby/status/1604808662731694080

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      @Stargazer not really a surprise is it? Still not sure that dumping EJ was a sound idea, certainly had a few players come out and say they think it was a mistake.

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        @Stargazer not really a surprise is it? Still not sure that dumping EJ was a sound idea, certainly had a few players come out and say they think it was a mistake.

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        @Dan54 said in NH International Rugby:

        @Stargazer not really a surprise is it? Still not sure that dumping EJ was a sound idea, certainly had a few players come out and say they think it was a mistake.

        British rugby media got their man basically.

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        • MajorPomM MajorPom

          @Dan54 said in NH International Rugby:

          @Stargazer not really a surprise is it? Still not sure that dumping EJ was a sound idea, certainly had a few players come out and say they think it was a mistake.

          British rugby media got their man basically.

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          @MajorRage said in NH International Rugby:

          @Dan54 said in NH International Rugby:

          @Stargazer not really a surprise is it? Still not sure that dumping EJ was a sound idea, certainly had a few players come out and say they think it was a mistake.

          British rugby media got their man basically.

          Seems that way, once media started, and the internet forums got into it, seems his days were numbered.

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          • MajorPomM MajorPom

            @Dan54 said in NH International Rugby:

            @Stargazer not really a surprise is it? Still not sure that dumping EJ was a sound idea, certainly had a few players come out and say they think it was a mistake.

            British rugby media got their man basically.

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            @MajorRage said in NH International Rugby:

            @Dan54 said in NH International Rugby:

            @Stargazer not really a surprise is it? Still not sure that dumping EJ was a sound idea, certainly had a few players come out and say they think it was a mistake.

            British rugby media got their man basically.

            Sadly didn't work with Foster 😞

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              Eddie lost to South Africa, Argentina, should have lost to us.

              Lost a game in Australia. Lost to the Barbarians

              Lost to Ireland, France and Scotland.

              That's just this year. That should get you fired as a head coach, World Cup in a year be damned.

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                Eddie lost to South Africa, Argentina, should have lost to us.

                Lost a game in Australia. Lost to the Barbarians

                Lost to Ireland, France and Scotland.

                That's just this year. That should get you fired as a head coach, World Cup in a year be damned.

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                @mariner4life said in NH International Rugby:

                Eddie lost to South Africa, Argentina, should have lost to us.

                Lost a game in Australia. Lost to the Barbarians

                Lost to Ireland, France and Scotland.

                That's just this year. That should get you fired as a head coach, World Cup in a year be damned.

                Pretty much. There's been a mountain of revisionist takes on his departure.

                Ultimately performances on the pitch outside of that Oz series victory have been very poor. We've won a total of 4 games in the last two 6N (2 of those were against Italy). That's just not good enough. His record is padded by the excellent start he had and we've not looked a good team since 2019.

                You can put up with Eddie's shtick whilst he's getting results, but it gets tiring when you're dealing with the mediocrity on display at the moment.

                Is Borthwick the right man for the job? Time will tell, but for me, it was time for a change despite the timing.

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                • StargazerS Offline
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                  https://twitter.com/NZRugby/status/1605373718330474502

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                    I see that Hollie Davidson, who was the referee in the Women's RWC final, will be officiating in two 6N U20 games. Angus Mabey is the ref for two games as well.

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                      Wales coaches Gethin Jenkins and Stephen Jones have left their roles with the national team as new boss Warren Gatland is set to freshen up his backroom team ahead of the Six Nations starting in February.

                      Gatland succeeded Wayne Pivac as Wales head coach earlier this month to rejoin the team he enjoyed a 12-year spell with from 2007-2019.

                      The 59-year-old has opted to keep forwards coach Jonathan Humphreys and kicking coach Neil Jenkins in his coaching staff.

                      The Welsh Rugby Union (WRU) said in a statement that their search to replace Jenkins and Jones is underway and they expect to have the roles filled by January.

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                        Gethin’s time will come again

                        Jones, not sure

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                          Machpants
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                          Nice gaming of the system

                          https://www.theguardian.com/sport/2023/jan/14/rfu-intervenes-steve-borthwick-pick-owen-farrell-six-nations-squad-england-scotland

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                          • M Machpants

                            Nice gaming of the system

                            https://www.theguardian.com/sport/2023/jan/14/rfu-intervenes-steve-borthwick-pick-owen-farrell-six-nations-squad-england-scotland

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                            @Machpants IIRC, it's a bit like SBW and a Counties preseason game after his red card against the B&I Lions? Normally, SBW would never have played that game, but I think it counted towards his suspension? I don't agree with it, btw, but if the system allows it ... SANZAAR made sure it wasn't possible during SR years ago, but that's only SR (and maybe TRC).

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                              @Machpants IIRC, it's a bit like SBW and a Counties preseason game after his red card against the B&I Lions? Normally, SBW would never have played that game, but I think it counted towards his suspension? I don't agree with it, btw, but if the system allows it ... SANZAAR made sure it wasn't possible during SR years ago, but that's only SR (and maybe TRC).

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                              @Stargazer said in NH International Rugby:

                              @Machpants IIRC, it's a bit like SBW and a Counties preseason game after his red card against the B&I Lions? Normally, SBW would never have played that game, but I think it counted towards his suspension? I don't agree with it, btw, but if the system allows it ... SANZAAR made sure it wasn't possible during SR years ago, but that's only SR (and maybe TRC).

                              Totally we've done it, I think Dane Cole got a game of three halves included. As I said, good gaming of the system

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                              • M Machpants

                                Nice gaming of the system

                                https://www.theguardian.com/sport/2023/jan/14/rfu-intervenes-steve-borthwick-pick-owen-farrell-six-nations-squad-england-scotland

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                                @Machpants said in NH International Rugby:

                                Nice gaming of the system

                                https://www.theguardian.com/sport/2023/jan/14/rfu-intervenes-steve-borthwick-pick-owen-farrell-six-nations-squad-england-scotland

                                Just out of interest did anyone else watch the game, I sure I heard the ref ask if the Farrell incident had happened in last phase when TMO pointed it out. Has there been a change in how far back they can go for foul play?

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                                  @Stargazer said in NH International Rugby:

                                  @Machpants IIRC, it's a bit like SBW and a Counties preseason game after his red card against the B&I Lions? Normally, SBW would never have played that game, but I think it counted towards his suspension? I don't agree with it, btw, but if the system allows it ... SANZAAR made sure it wasn't possible during SR years ago, but that's only SR (and maybe TRC).

                                  Totally we've done it, I think Dane Cole got a game of three halves included. As I said, good gaming of the system

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                                  @Machpants if he played all 3 halves, would that count as 1 and a half games of his ban 🤔

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                                  • Dan54D Dan54

                                    @Machpants said in NH International Rugby:

                                    Nice gaming of the system

                                    https://www.theguardian.com/sport/2023/jan/14/rfu-intervenes-steve-borthwick-pick-owen-farrell-six-nations-squad-england-scotland

                                    Just out of interest did anyone else watch the game, I sure I heard the ref ask if the Farrell incident had happened in last phase when TMO pointed it out. Has there been a change in how far back they can go for foul play?

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                                    @Dan54 said in NH International Rugby:

                                    @Machpants said in NH International Rugby:

                                    Nice gaming of the system

                                    https://www.theguardian.com/sport/2023/jan/14/rfu-intervenes-steve-borthwick-pick-owen-farrell-six-nations-squad-england-scotland

                                    Just out of interest did anyone else watch the game, I sure I heard the ref ask if the Farrell incident had happened in last phase when TMO pointed it out. Has there been a change in how far back they can go for foul play?

                                    I've seen the hit, but not the game. The article I read was that it wasn't anything but a communication breakdown between ref and TMO which meant it wasn't looked at, rather than any rules change or whatever

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                                    • M Machpants

                                      @Dan54 said in NH International Rugby:

                                      @Machpants said in NH International Rugby:

                                      Nice gaming of the system

                                      https://www.theguardian.com/sport/2023/jan/14/rfu-intervenes-steve-borthwick-pick-owen-farrell-six-nations-squad-england-scotland

                                      Just out of interest did anyone else watch the game, I sure I heard the ref ask if the Farrell incident had happened in last phase when TMO pointed it out. Has there been a change in how far back they can go for foul play?

                                      I've seen the hit, but not the game. The article I read was that it wasn't anything but a communication breakdown between ref and TMO which meant it wasn't looked at, rather than any rules change or whatever

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                                      @Machpants said in NH International Rugby:

                                      @Dan54 said in NH International Rugby:

                                      @Machpants said in NH International Rugby:

                                      Nice gaming of the system

                                      https://www.theguardian.com/sport/2023/jan/14/rfu-intervenes-steve-borthwick-pick-owen-farrell-six-nations-squad-england-scotland

                                      Just out of interest did anyone else watch the game, I sure I heard the ref ask if the Farrell incident had happened in last phase when TMO pointed it out. Has there been a change in how far back they can go for foul play?

                                      I've seen the hit, but not the game. The article I read was that it wasn't anything but a communication breakdown between ref and TMO which meant it wasn't looked at, rather than any rules change or whatever

                                      It came across as a bit of a howler from the referee, Karl Dickson. He’s had a couple of high profile balls ups recently.

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                                        Warren Gatland's Wales Six Nations squad -

                                        Forwards (20): Rhys Carre, Wyn Jones, Gareth Thomas, Dewi Lake, Ken Owens (capt), Bradley Roberts, Leon Brown, Tomas Francis, Dillon Lewis, Adam Beard, Rhys Davies, Dafydd Jenkins, Alun Wyn Jones, Teddy Williams, Taulupe Faletau, Jac Morgan, Tommy Reffell, Justin Tipuric, Christ Tshiunza, Aaron Wainwright.

                                        Backs (17): Kieran Hardy, Rhys Webb, Tomos Williams, Dan Biggar, Rhys Patchell, Owen Williams, Mason Grady, Joe Hawkins, George North, Nick Tompkins, Keiran Williams, Josh Adams, Alex Cuthbert, Rio Dyer, Leigh Halfpenny, Liam Williams.

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                                          Ruiradh McConnochie is called up to the Scotland 6N squad three years after winning the last of his England caps.

                                          I know it’s the rules and I don’t blame the guy, or Townsend for picking him but to me it devalues international sport.

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