NZ v Pakistan 2022/23
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@Dan54 said in NZ v Pakistan:
@Damo Mate wasn't knocking the criticism, seemed bloody fair to me, just laughing at how they he then decides to get a decent knock at that stage, almost as if to say stuff you.:grinning_squinting_face:
Yeah I was trying to motivate him by calling him a walking duck.
To be fair he did look clueless for his first half an hour then he got it together.
That takes courage and grit, which are often just as valuable as raw talent.
@Damo said in NZ v Pakistan:
That takes courage and grit, which are often just as valuable as raw talent.
Damo is Justin Langer
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@Chris said in NZ v Pakistan:
@Chris said in NZ v Pakistan:
More back to our usual line up of 3-4 seamers and maybe a spinner who can bat?
The last few years we have played 4 quicks because we are producing pitches that seam heaps but don't take spin even on the last day.
So unless we find an allrounder Bat/spin option to bat 5 or 6 we may revert back to the 4 seamers.
I understand why we do prepare pitches like that,But it means we aren't producing any real world class spinners,Which considering of the 9 major test playing nations 4 of them are from the sub continent where you need a couple of decent spinners.We are going to be touring there more and more.
Even now producing the wickets we do at home there is a possibility we don't get results if teams get through day 1 as the pitches latter even out to be roads on day 4 and 5 after the moisture we put in the pitch has gone.
Sub continent pitches see little water in preparation so they are Roads early then break up or stay low at the end of the test.
But while we don't have World class spinners we will keep producing the seaming pitches as we want to win at home.But as I said earlier we might get more draws if teams are not rolled on day 1.By this are you talking Murali/Warne or Vettori class ? I suspect you mean the latter. Hoping for the former is absolutely dreaming, but even the latter looks a forlorn hope with what we’ve tried and discarded.
@MN5 said in NZ v Pakistan:
@Chris said in NZ v Pakistan:
@Chris said in NZ v Pakistan:
More back to our usual line up of 3-4 seamers and maybe a spinner who can bat?
The last few years we have played 4 quicks because we are producing pitches that seam heaps but don't take spin even on the last day.
So unless we find an allrounder Bat/spin option to bat 5 or 6 we may revert back to the 4 seamers.
I understand why we do prepare pitches like that,But it means we aren't producing any real world class spinners,Which considering of the 9 major test playing nations 4 of them are from the sub continent where you need a couple of decent spinners.We are going to be touring there more and more.
Even now producing the wickets we do at home there is a possibility we don't get results if teams get through day 1 as the pitches latter even out to be roads on day 4 and 5 after the moisture we put in the pitch has gone.
Sub continent pitches see little water in preparation so they are Roads early then break up or stay low at the end of the test.
But while we don't have World class spinners we will keep producing the seaming pitches as we want to win at home.But as I said earlier we might get more draws if teams are not rolled on day 1.By this are you talking Murali/Warne or Vettori class ? I suspect you mean the latter. Hoping for the former is absolutely dreaming, but even the latter looks a forlorn hope with what we’ve tried and discarded.
Warnie,murali are freak players I can't see us producing one to match them,But a couple of Vettori type players.
Lyons was average at State level and took a while to come right at Test Level.
Just have to try to uncover a couple with potential and stick with them but again that is down to the pitches at home.
Seriously even at Premier club level here you see a couple of spinners 1/2 dozen bats and quicks that would have the potential to succeed at higher levels who haven't made the step up as yet..
More in the Sydney comp,Melbourne and WA comps.And some decent spinners and bats in Adelaide.
I always try to hunt any out with a NZ connection to steer them home, easier said than done though. -
@Damo Mate wasn't knocking the criticism, seemed bloody fair to me, just laughing at how they he then decides to get a decent knock at that stage, almost as if to say stuff you.:grinning_squinting_face:
@Dan54 said in NZ v Pakistan:
@Damo Mate wasn't knocking the criticism, seemed bloody fair to me, just laughing at how they he then decides to get a decent knock at that stage, almost as if to say stuff you.:grinning_squinting_face:
If that's what it takes to motivate him so be it. The guy can't bowl for toffee either. I bet he can't get a Michelle tonight....
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Huuuge wicket
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Fantastic catch from Tommy as well
@No-Quarter said in NZ v Pakistan:
Fantastic catch from Tommy as well
Yes hardest catch for a Wk unsighted standing up to the spinner down leg.Great catch.
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@Chris said in NZ v Pakistan:
Wow poor shot that good catch from Kane.
Yep kept his cool and took it well. Bracewell running through them haha
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@MajorRage said in NZ v Pakistan:
Major Rage prediction:
Pakistan’s get to lunch at about 50-2. Then tea around 125-4. Test peters out to draw around 175-5.
Bracewell to get eight wickets and win the test for us.
@MN5 said in NZ v Pakistan:
@MajorRage said in NZ v Pakistan:
Major Rage prediction:
Pakistan’s get to lunch at about 50-2. Then tea around 125-4. Test peters out to draw around 175-5.
Bracewell to get eight wickets and win the test for us.
This post is aging ok so far.
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@Chris said in NZ v Pakistan:
Wow poor shot that good catch from Kane.
Yep kept his cool and took it well. Bracewell running through them haha
@No-Quarter said in NZ v Pakistan:
@Chris said in NZ v Pakistan:
Wow poor shot that good catch from Kane.
Yep kept his cool and took it well. Bracewell running through them haha
Fine by me if he gets a bag full and we win.
This is the big partnership these two can bat time, break this one and we are looking good. -
Bracewell had Shan in all sorts of trouble that over. Very good bowling, hitting a much better length than previously.
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@MN5 said in NZ v Pakistan:
@MajorRage said in NZ v Pakistan:
Major Rage prediction:
Pakistan’s get to lunch at about 50-2. Then tea around 125-4. Test peters out to draw around 175-5.
Bracewell to get eight wickets and win the test for us.
This post is aging ok so far.
@MN5 said in NZ v Pakistan:
@MN5 said in NZ v Pakistan:
@MajorRage said in NZ v Pakistan:
Major Rage prediction:
Pakistan’s get to lunch at about 50-2. Then tea around 125-4. Test peters out to draw around 175-5.
Bracewell to get eight wickets and win the test for us.
This post is aging ok so far.
The new Murali aye.
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@MN5 said in NZ v Pakistan:
@MN5 said in NZ v Pakistan:
@MajorRage said in NZ v Pakistan:
Major Rage prediction:
Pakistan’s get to lunch at about 50-2. Then tea around 125-4. Test peters out to draw around 175-5.
Bracewell to get eight wickets and win the test for us.
This post is aging ok so far.
The new Murali aye.
@Chris said in NZ v Pakistan:
@MN5 said in NZ v Pakistan:
@MN5 said in NZ v Pakistan:
@MajorRage said in NZ v Pakistan:
Major Rage prediction:
Pakistan’s get to lunch at about 50-2. Then tea around 125-4. Test peters out to draw around 175-5.
Bracewell to get eight wickets and win the test for us.
This post is aging ok so far.
The new Murali aye.
I’ve always said so.
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@Chris said in NZ v Pakistan:
@MN5 said in NZ v Pakistan:
@MN5 said in NZ v Pakistan:
@MajorRage said in NZ v Pakistan:
Major Rage prediction:
Pakistan’s get to lunch at about 50-2. Then tea around 125-4. Test peters out to draw around 175-5.
Bracewell to get eight wickets and win the test for us.
This post is aging ok so far.
The new Murali aye.
I’ve always said so.
@MN5 said in NZ v Pakistan:
@Chris said in NZ v Pakistan:
@MN5 said in NZ v Pakistan:
@MN5 said in NZ v Pakistan:
@MajorRage said in NZ v Pakistan:
Major Rage prediction:
Pakistan’s get to lunch at about 50-2. Then tea around 125-4. Test peters out to draw around 175-5.
Bracewell to get eight wickets and win the test for us.
This post is aging ok so far.
The new Murali aye.
I’ve always said so.
I can’t wait for the Doosra and the Carrom ball he has been keeping them under wraps for the last 100 overs.
