Rennie Sacked, Eddie In!
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The Rugby Report Card podcast has an interview with Hamish McClennan.
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https://www.telegraph.co.uk/rugby-union/2023/01/17/eddie-jones-retribution-fires-parting-shot-rfu/
Eddie Jones has warned that “retribution” is a major driver for him as he embarks on a second stint as Australia head coach, suggesting that he will not be speaking to Rugby Football Union officials when the Wallabies next meet England. Jones has been appointed by Rugby Australia on a five-year contract and will oversee the men’s and women’s national teams for a golden period featuring the 2023 World Cup, the 2025 British and Irish Lions tour and a home World Cup in 2027. The 62-year-old, dismissed by the RFU last month following a review into an underwhelming autumn punctuated by losses to Argentina and South Africa, replaces Dave Rennie. Australia could face England as soon as the quarter-final stage of this year’s World Cup in France and, in a wide-ranging interview with the Sydney Morning Herald and Nine News, Jones was asked about the prospect of meeting his former employers. 'I might have a conversation with some of the players' “I’m not thinking about England, I’m thinking about retribution because the most important thing is to get Australia playing really well and consistently well,” he said. “If we happen to meet England on the way, well and good. I might have a conversation with some of the players and not with the administration. Then we’ll get on with the battle. “You could maybe pick it now … the quarter-final [between Australia and England] could be in Marseille. Maybe age helps but once the chapter closes, it closes.” Jones also vowed to be “the fittest 63-year-old coach in the world” and claimed that a Wallabies return was “the furthest thing from his mind” upon being sacked by the RFU. He believes that he will “connect pretty quickly with the Australian rugby community” and hinted that he could use the 2027 World Cup to lure stars from the National Rugby League across codes and into the Wallabies side. Australia lost nine of 14 Test matches in 2022, beginning their year with a 2-1 series loss to Jones and England. Their new head coach starts with a trip to Loftus Versfeld to face the Springboks and is already excited. “What a good way to start off,” Jones said. “South Africa is a side that we know are going to play set-piece to set-piece and kick the ball in the air. It’s almost the opposite of how an Australian team wants to play. We’ll need to be at our best to beat them.” -
https://www.telegraph.co.uk/rugby-union/2023/01/17/eddie-jones-retribution-fires-parting-shot-rfu/
Eddie Jones has warned that “retribution” is a major driver for him as he embarks on a second stint as Australia head coach, suggesting that he will not be speaking to Rugby Football Union officials when the Wallabies next meet England. Jones has been appointed by Rugby Australia on a five-year contract and will oversee the men’s and women’s national teams for a golden period featuring the 2023 World Cup, the 2025 British and Irish Lions tour and a home World Cup in 2027. The 62-year-old, dismissed by the RFU last month following a review into an underwhelming autumn punctuated by losses to Argentina and South Africa, replaces Dave Rennie. Australia could face England as soon as the quarter-final stage of this year’s World Cup in France and, in a wide-ranging interview with the Sydney Morning Herald and Nine News, Jones was asked about the prospect of meeting his former employers. 'I might have a conversation with some of the players' “I’m not thinking about England, I’m thinking about retribution because the most important thing is to get Australia playing really well and consistently well,” he said. “If we happen to meet England on the way, well and good. I might have a conversation with some of the players and not with the administration. Then we’ll get on with the battle. “You could maybe pick it now … the quarter-final [between Australia and England] could be in Marseille. Maybe age helps but once the chapter closes, it closes.” Jones also vowed to be “the fittest 63-year-old coach in the world” and claimed that a Wallabies return was “the furthest thing from his mind” upon being sacked by the RFU. He believes that he will “connect pretty quickly with the Australian rugby community” and hinted that he could use the 2027 World Cup to lure stars from the National Rugby League across codes and into the Wallabies side. Australia lost nine of 14 Test matches in 2022, beginning their year with a 2-1 series loss to Jones and England. Their new head coach starts with a trip to Loftus Versfeld to face the Springboks and is already excited. “What a good way to start off,” Jones said. “South Africa is a side that we know are going to play set-piece to set-piece and kick the ball in the air. It’s almost the opposite of how an Australian team wants to play. We’ll need to be at our best to beat them.”@Victor-Meldrew said in Rennie Sacked, Eddie In!:
https://www.telegraph.co.uk/rugby-union/2023/01/17/eddie-jones-retribution-fires-parting-shot-rfu/
Eddie Jones has warned that “retribution” is a major driver for him as he embarks on a second stint as Australia head coach, suggesting that he will not be speaking to Rugby Football Union officials when the Wallabies next meet England. Jones has been appointed by Rugby Australia on a five-year contract and will oversee the men’s and women’s national teams for a golden period featuring the 2023 World Cup, the 2025 British and Irish Lions tour and a home World Cup in 2027. The 62-year-old, dismissed by the RFU last month following a review into an underwhelming autumn punctuated by losses to Argentina and South Africa, replaces Dave Rennie. Australia could face England as soon as the quarter-final stage of this year’s World Cup in France and, in a wide-ranging interview with the Sydney Morning Herald and Nine News, Jones was asked about the prospect of meeting his former employers. 'I might have a conversation with some of the players' “I’m not thinking about England, I’m thinking about retribution because the most important thing is to get Australia playing really well and consistently well,” he said. “If we happen to meet England on the way, well and good. I might have a conversation with some of the players and not with the administration. Then we’ll get on with the battle. “You could maybe pick it now … the quarter-final [between Australia and England] could be in Marseille. Maybe age helps but once the chapter closes, it closes.” Jones also vowed to be “the fittest 63-year-old coach in the world” and claimed that a Wallabies return was “the furthest thing from his mind” upon being sacked by the RFU. He believes that he will “connect pretty quickly with the Australian rugby community” and hinted that he could use the 2027 World Cup to lure stars from the National Rugby League across codes and into the Wallabies side. Australia lost nine of 14 Test matches in 2022, beginning their year with a 2-1 series loss to Jones and England. Their new head coach starts with a trip to Loftus Versfeld to face the Springboks and is already excited. “What a good way to start off,” Jones said. “South Africa is a side that we know are going to play set-piece to set-piece and kick the ball in the air. It’s almost the opposite of how an Australian team wants to play. We’ll need to be at our best to beat them.”Taking cock lessons from Austin Healy
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https://www.telegraph.co.uk/rugby-union/2023/01/17/eddie-jones-retribution-fires-parting-shot-rfu/
Eddie Jones has warned that “retribution” is a major driver for him as he embarks on a second stint as Australia head coach, suggesting that he will not be speaking to Rugby Football Union officials when the Wallabies next meet England. Jones has been appointed by Rugby Australia on a five-year contract and will oversee the men’s and women’s national teams for a golden period featuring the 2023 World Cup, the 2025 British and Irish Lions tour and a home World Cup in 2027. The 62-year-old, dismissed by the RFU last month following a review into an underwhelming autumn punctuated by losses to Argentina and South Africa, replaces Dave Rennie. Australia could face England as soon as the quarter-final stage of this year’s World Cup in France and, in a wide-ranging interview with the Sydney Morning Herald and Nine News, Jones was asked about the prospect of meeting his former employers. 'I might have a conversation with some of the players' “I’m not thinking about England, I’m thinking about retribution because the most important thing is to get Australia playing really well and consistently well,” he said. “If we happen to meet England on the way, well and good. I might have a conversation with some of the players and not with the administration. Then we’ll get on with the battle. “You could maybe pick it now … the quarter-final [between Australia and England] could be in Marseille. Maybe age helps but once the chapter closes, it closes.” Jones also vowed to be “the fittest 63-year-old coach in the world” and claimed that a Wallabies return was “the furthest thing from his mind” upon being sacked by the RFU. He believes that he will “connect pretty quickly with the Australian rugby community” and hinted that he could use the 2027 World Cup to lure stars from the National Rugby League across codes and into the Wallabies side. Australia lost nine of 14 Test matches in 2022, beginning their year with a 2-1 series loss to Jones and England. Their new head coach starts with a trip to Loftus Versfeld to face the Springboks and is already excited. “What a good way to start off,” Jones said. “South Africa is a side that we know are going to play set-piece to set-piece and kick the ball in the air. It’s almost the opposite of how an Australian team wants to play. We’ll need to be at our best to beat them.”@Victor-Meldrew either Eddie doesn't know what 'retribution' means, or that is a mis-quote and they've missed a 'not'? Retribution is not getting the Wallabies playing consistently well.
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Interesting headline. Didn't read the article.
https://twitter.com/TelegraphRugby/status/1615083860378718209
@NTA said in Rennie Sacked, Eddie In!:
Interesting headline. Didn't read the article.
https://twitter.com/TelegraphRugby/status/1615083860378718209
Dinner date at Gaucho? Pfft, if they were really wooing him they would have treated him to Hawksmoor!
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I think this is quite opportunistic of RA and good on them for acting decisively.
If Jones wasnt sacked by England then I am sure Rennie would have taken them through to the world cup. Now that Jones was available early, they probably thought they had to seize the moment.
As for Rennie, He knew it was a very tough job when he signed on and having a win rate of 38% always leaves a head coach vulnerable.
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I usually avoid Treason's articles but decided to read this one. He's not wrong about McLennan.
In contrast, McLennan sells people’s souls, providing the price is right. McLennan said in one of the first interviews he gave after the sacking of Rennie: “There’s more of a risk not doing something about it when the opportunity presented itself.
“We stumbled during the spring tour. The world changed when Eddie got let go. The team has made progress but we need to develop a harder edge. There’s no more experienced campaigner out there than Eddie. We had to take advantage of that. He’s ruthless and tough and has that twinkle in his eye. The profile of rugby has gone through the roof already and fans, sponsors and players will react accordingly.”
That last sentence tells you all you need to know about McLennan. He sees Jones as a marketing coup. He sees Jones as a tap dancer with twinkle eyes and twinkle toes and a good line in patter. If you want sponsors, then Eddie’s your man. And there’s nothing McLennan likes more than a good sponsor. -
I usually avoid Treason's articles but decided to read this one. He's not wrong about McLennan.
In contrast, McLennan sells people’s souls, providing the price is right. McLennan said in one of the first interviews he gave after the sacking of Rennie: “There’s more of a risk not doing something about it when the opportunity presented itself.
“We stumbled during the spring tour. The world changed when Eddie got let go. The team has made progress but we need to develop a harder edge. There’s no more experienced campaigner out there than Eddie. We had to take advantage of that. He’s ruthless and tough and has that twinkle in his eye. The profile of rugby has gone through the roof already and fans, sponsors and players will react accordingly.”
That last sentence tells you all you need to know about McLennan. He sees Jones as a marketing coup. He sees Jones as a tap dancer with twinkle eyes and twinkle toes and a good line in patter. If you want sponsors, then Eddie’s your man. And there’s nothing McLennan likes more than a good sponsor.Treason is the stopped clock.
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Treason is the stopped clock.
@Catogrande throw enough darts, one will eventually hit the bulls eye
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As i get older, i find more and more comfort in history repeating itself.
My fashionable wife has informed me that superb look for chicks from the 90s of cargo pants and a crop top (best modelled by Gwen Stefani) is on the comeback. With a bit of luck chokers and landing strips are next.
Eddie Jones is once again the coach of the Wallabies, and Rugby Australia is looking to spunk eye-watering amounts of money on backs from Rugby League.
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Pommy guy at work was saying he still knows people in the pro ranks back home, who can't praise Eddie enough. Don't believe the beat up about him being unpopular, or words to that effect.
But said work mate, who is a junior coach here now, is conflicted:
On one hand, Jones will help boost Rugby here and get people interested again. That's handy when you're involved in the game.
On the other, the match up against England at RWC has him very nervous...
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Pommy guy at work was saying he still knows people in the pro ranks back home, who can't praise Eddie enough. Don't believe the beat up about him being unpopular, or words to that effect.
But said work mate, who is a junior coach here now, is conflicted:
On one hand, Jones will help boost Rugby here and get people interested again. That's handy when you're involved in the game.
On the other, the match up against England at RWC has him very nervous...
@NTA said in Rennie Sacked, Eddie In!:
Pommy guy at work was saying he still knows people in the pro ranks back home, who can't praise Eddie enough. Don't believe the beat up about him being unpopular, or words to that effect.
But said work mate, who is a junior coach here now, is conflicted:
On one hand, Jones will help boost Rugby here and get people interested again. That's handy when you're involved in the game.
On the other, the match up against England at RWC has him very nervous...
What match up? If Oz beat Wales they probably wouldnt face England unless both made the final.
If Oz don't beat Wales then they are a lost cause against England -
@NTA said in Rennie Sacked, Eddie In!:
Pommy guy at work was saying he still knows people in the pro ranks back home, who can't praise Eddie enough. Don't believe the beat up about him being unpopular, or words to that effect.
But said work mate, who is a junior coach here now, is conflicted:
On one hand, Jones will help boost Rugby here and get people interested again. That's handy when you're involved in the game.
On the other, the match up against England at RWC has him very nervous...
What match up? If Oz beat Wales they probably wouldnt face England unless both made the final.
If Oz don't beat Wales then they are a lost cause against England@Crucial said in Rennie Sacked, Eddie In!:
@NTA said in Rennie Sacked, Eddie In!:
Pommy guy at work was saying he still knows people in the pro ranks back home, who can't praise Eddie enough. Don't believe the beat up about him being unpopular, or words to that effect.
But said work mate, who is a junior coach here now, is conflicted:
On one hand, Jones will help boost Rugby here and get people interested again. That's handy when you're involved in the game.
On the other, the match up against England at RWC has him very nervous...
What match up? If Oz beat Wales they probably wouldnt face England unless both made the final.
If Oz don't beat Wales then they are a lost cause against EnglandFine. The possibility of a match up.
Jeez...
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@Crucial said in Rennie Sacked, Eddie In!:
@NTA said in Rennie Sacked, Eddie In!:
Pommy guy at work was saying he still knows people in the pro ranks back home, who can't praise Eddie enough. Don't believe the beat up about him being unpopular, or words to that effect.
But said work mate, who is a junior coach here now, is conflicted:
On one hand, Jones will help boost Rugby here and get people interested again. That's handy when you're involved in the game.
On the other, the match up against England at RWC has him very nervous...
What match up? If Oz beat Wales they probably wouldnt face England unless both made the final.
If Oz don't beat Wales then they are a lost cause against EnglandFine. The possibility of a match up.
Jeez...
@NTA said in Rennie Sacked, Eddie In!:
@Crucial said in Rennie Sacked, Eddie In!:
@NTA said in Rennie Sacked, Eddie In!:
Pommy guy at work was saying he still knows people in the pro ranks back home, who can't praise Eddie enough. Don't believe the beat up about him being unpopular, or words to that effect.
But said work mate, who is a junior coach here now, is conflicted:
On one hand, Jones will help boost Rugby here and get people interested again. That's handy when you're involved in the game.
On the other, the match up against England at RWC has him very nervous...
What match up? If Oz beat Wales they probably wouldnt face England unless both made the final.
If Oz don't beat Wales then they are a lost cause against EnglandFine. The possibility of a match up.
Jeez...
All about truth and facts here in the fern
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Pommy guy at work was saying he still knows people in the pro ranks back home, who can't praise Eddie enough. Don't believe the beat up about him being unpopular, or words to that effect.
But said work mate, who is a junior coach here now, is conflicted:
On one hand, Jones will help boost Rugby here and get people interested again. That's handy when you're involved in the game.
On the other, the match up against England at RWC has him very nervous...
@NTA said in Rennie Sacked, Eddie In!:
Pommy guy at work was saying he still knows people in the pro ranks back home, who can't praise Eddie enough. Don't believe the beat up about him being unpopular, or words to that effect.
But said work mate, who is a junior coach here now, is conflicted:
On one hand, Jones will help boost Rugby here and get people interested again. That's handy when you're involved in the game.
On the other, the match up against England at RWC has him very nervous...
I might be wrong, but the issue is not necessarily that his popularity amongst his players and peers wanes over time, it's that his ability to get the best out of them on the pitch does. So, while he might still be popular with players and people in English rugby circles, he hasn't been able to get the best out of them nearly 4 years now. It was the same last time around with the Wallabies. There was no issue around player disharmony - it was all to do with waning results on the pitch and his inability / refusal to develop a functional tight 5.
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Treason is the stopped clock.
@Catogrande said in Rennie Sacked, Eddie In!:
Treason is the stopped clock.
The l in that sentence appears to be redundant.
I don't care if he is infrequently right, there is something very bitter about that man. -
@Catogrande said in Rennie Sacked, Eddie In!:
Treason is the stopped clock.
The l in that sentence appears to be redundant.
I don't care if he is infrequently right, there is something very bitter about that man.RWC: am wondering if the bookies will change their minds now about Australia and England..
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As i get older, i find more and more comfort in history repeating itself.
My fashionable wife has informed me that superb look for chicks from the 90s of cargo pants and a crop top (best modelled by Gwen Stefani) is on the comeback. With a bit of luck chokers and landing strips are next.
Eddie Jones is once again the coach of the Wallabies, and Rugby Australia is looking to spunk eye-watering amounts of money on backs from Rugby League.
@mariner4life said in Rennie Sacked, Eddie In!:
As i get older, i find more and more comfort in history repeating itself.
My fashionable wife has informed me that superb look for chicks from the 90s of cargo pants and a crop top (best modelled by Gwen Stefani) is on the comeback. With a bit of luck chokers and landing strips are next.
Almost spat out my coffee.
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Right so Eddie is earning is his coin - already talking about targeting some league players for next year and getting in the public eye.
League boss Peter V'landys has responded:
https://www.theroar.com.au/2023/01/18/suaalii-koula-penisini-in-wallabies-sights-but-vlandys-says-stars-wont-switch-for-rugbys-tiktok-tedium/Notable quotes:
But V’landys said any player who does cross codes “can take their mobile phone with them on the field because they’ve got 20 minutes to tweet, Instagram or TikTok” in a dig at the ball-in-play time disparities between the two codes.
Actually that's pretty good
“We wish Eddie the best of luck, and I hope he’s got his mobile phone with him so he can fill that 30 minutes as well,” the Australian Rugby League Commission chair told AAP.
“I’m not concerned, because why would you want to leave the greatest game of all for another game,” V’landys told AAP.
“There is more to it than money. There is also enjoyment and the quality.
“We’ve got the greatest game of all …. people will always want to play the greatest game of all.”
Eddie responded:
https://twitter.com/iainpayten/status/1615949350462697479
