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Rennie Sacked, Eddie In!

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  • voodooV voodoo

    Seems entirely reasonable of RA to me. Every senior exec contract I’ve seen has a similar clause. As others note, enforceability can be hard, but Rennie would need to actively challenge it

    Many companies have stuff they’d like keep private, I can’t see why the Wallabies would be any different.

    End of the day he’s getting paid out, I can’t quite accept the argument that it’s affecting his career by somehow making him irrelevant so quickly

    As someone said, allowing him to work with a Tier 2 or lower country would be fairly harmless, though you’d rightly expect him to do that for free or to refund RA any earnings offset

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    @voodoo said in Rennie Sacked, Eddie In!:

    Seems entirely reasonable of RA to me. Every senior exec contract I’ve seen has a similar clause. As others note, enforceability can be hard, but Rennie would need to actively challenge it

    Many companies have stuff they’d like keep private, I can’t see why the Wallabies would be any different.

    End of the day he’s getting paid out, I can’t quite accept the argument that it’s affecting his career by somehow making him irrelevant so quickly

    As someone said, allowing him to work with a Tier 2 or lower country would be fairly harmless, though you’d rightly expect him to do that for free or to refund RA any earnings offset

    Can Rennie operate as a "volunteer" for the ABs? Not contracted or paid but hold tackle bags? Would his RA contract run that deep legally?

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    • Joans Town JonesJ Joans Town Jones

      @voodoo said in Rennie Sacked, Eddie In!:

      Seems entirely reasonable of RA to me. Every senior exec contract I’ve seen has a similar clause. As others note, enforceability can be hard, but Rennie would need to actively challenge it

      Many companies have stuff they’d like keep private, I can’t see why the Wallabies would be any different.

      End of the day he’s getting paid out, I can’t quite accept the argument that it’s affecting his career by somehow making him irrelevant so quickly

      As someone said, allowing him to work with a Tier 2 or lower country would be fairly harmless, though you’d rightly expect him to do that for free or to refund RA any earnings offset

      Can Rennie operate as a "volunteer" for the ABs? Not contracted or paid but hold tackle bags? Would his RA contract run that deep legally?

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      @Joans-Town-Jones I don't think so. Unpaid/volunteer work is still work.

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      • mariner4lifeM mariner4life

        As i get older, i find more and more comfort in history repeating itself.

        My fashionable wife has informed me that superb look for chicks from the 90s of cargo pants and a crop top (best modelled by Gwen Stefani) is on the comeback. With a bit of luck chokers and landing strips are next.

        Eddie Jones is once again the coach of the Wallabies, and Rugby Australia is looking to spunk eye-watering amounts of money on backs from Rugby League.

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        @mariner4life said in Rennie Sacked, Eddie In!:

        As i get older, i find more and more comfort in history repeating itself.

        My fashionable wife has informed me that superb look for chicks from the 90s of cargo pants and a crop top (best modelled by Gwen Stefani) is on the comeback. With a bit of luck chokers and landing strips are next.

        Eddie Jones is once again the coach of the Wallabies, and Rugby Australia is looking to spunk eye-watering amounts of money on backs from Rugby League.

        Yeah that shit is goooooood

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        • StargazerS Stargazer

          @Joans-Town-Jones I don't think so. Unpaid/volunteer work is still work.

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          @Stargazer said in Rennie Sacked, Eddie In!:

          @Joans-Town-Jones I don't think so. Unpaid/volunteer work is still work.

          How about text exchanges?

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              so player power pretty much kept Fozzie in the job, Aus didnt even check what thier players thought....

              https://www.msn.com/en-nz/sports/other/rugby-australia-on-the-players-influence-over-rennie-s-axing-we-didn-t-consult-them-at-all/ar-AA16zWyW?ocid=msedgntp&cvid=e82cf549a7124fe49adcba60d3546e59

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              • taniwharugbyT taniwharugby

                so player power pretty much kept Fozzie in the job, Aus didnt even check what thier players thought....

                https://www.msn.com/en-nz/sports/other/rugby-australia-on-the-players-influence-over-rennie-s-axing-we-didn-t-consult-them-at-all/ar-AA16zWyW?ocid=msedgntp&cvid=e82cf549a7124fe49adcba60d3546e59

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                @taniwharugby said in Rennie Sacked, Eddie In!:

                so player power pretty much kept Fozzie in the job, Aus didnt even check what thier players thought....

                This is always a tricky area though. I've known lots of places where the boss isn't doing a good job, but the staff they employed feel loyalty to him or her. I would put very little faith in formal interviews of employees. (I'd be interested in what they say in private, but that can be hard to measure ethically.)

                Really Rennie's results, for whatever reasons, haven't been great. And I was a booster of his for a long while.

                Not sure Eddie Jones is the answer. But neither is sticking with something that isn't working, hoping that a miracle will happen.

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                • Chester DrawsC Chester Draws

                  @taniwharugby said in Rennie Sacked, Eddie In!:

                  so player power pretty much kept Fozzie in the job, Aus didnt even check what thier players thought....

                  This is always a tricky area though. I've known lots of places where the boss isn't doing a good job, but the staff they employed feel loyalty to him or her. I would put very little faith in formal interviews of employees. (I'd be interested in what they say in private, but that can be hard to measure ethically.)

                  Really Rennie's results, for whatever reasons, haven't been great. And I was a booster of his for a long while.

                  Not sure Eddie Jones is the answer. But neither is sticking with something that isn't working, hoping that a miracle will happen.

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                      I don’t think any coach would have done significantly better than Rennie if they’d had to select from a very shallow pool of players with the pool springing a leak and play the teams Australia played during his tenure

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                      • MiketheSnowM MiketheSnow

                        I don’t think any coach would have done significantly better than Rennie if they’d had to select from a very shallow pool of players with the pool springing a leak and play the teams Australia played during his tenure

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                        @MiketheSnow said in Rennie Sacked, Eddie In!:

                        I don’t think any coach would have done significantly better than Rennie if they’d had to select from a very shallow pool of players with the pool springing a leak and play the teams Australia played during his tenure

                        It was a panic decision

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