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EPL 2022 / 2023

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  • KiwiPieK KiwiPie

    @dogmeat said in EPL 2021 / 2022:

    Lampard gooorn

    Surprised he's lasted as long as he has TBH

    He never seemed to have much clue and Everton is a basket case of a club anyway. Talk of Bielsa going there which promises massive amusement and probably relegation (too short a period for him to change the playing style). Also Ralph recently of Southampton and naturally Dyche who becomes a better manager the longer he is out of work.

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    @KiwiPie You'd have to be desperate ot a massive egoist (or both) to go near the Everton Manager's job.

    They will have the nicest stadium in the Championship if it is finished in time

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      @KiwiPie You'd have to be desperate ot a massive egoist (or both) to go near the Everton Manager's job.

      They will have the nicest stadium in the Championship if it is finished in time

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      @dogmeat said in EPL 2021 / 2022:

      @KiwiPie You'd have to be desperate ot a massive egoist (or both) to go near the Everton Manager's job.

      They will have the nicest stadium in the Championship if it is finished in time

      When they'll get bought by a petro-state.

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        When was it that Everton fancied themselves as part of a 'big six'? I'd love to see them go down.

        Lampard seems a hopeless manager but what are the odds that he gets yet another gig in the premier league?

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        • CyclopsC Cyclops

          When was it that Everton fancied themselves as part of a 'big six'? I'd love to see them go down.

          Lampard seems a hopeless manager but what are the odds that he gets yet another gig in the premier league?

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          @Cyclops said in EPL 2021 / 2022:

          When was it that Everton fancied themselves as part of a 'big six'?

          The "Big Six" is a more recent thing but Everton would have been in the 1980s when they won titles.

          As to their new manager, get Rooney for laughs.

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            When was it that Everton fancied themselves as part of a 'big six'? I'd love to see them go down.

            Lampard seems a hopeless manager but what are the odds that he gets yet another gig in the premier league?

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            @Cyclops said in EPL 2021 / 2022:

            When was it that Everton fancied themselves as part of a 'big six'? I'd love to see them go down.

            Lampard seems a hopeless manager but what are the odds that he gets yet another gig in the premier league?

            Close to zero, honestly.

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            • BovidaeB Bovidae

              @Cyclops said in EPL 2021 / 2022:

              When was it that Everton fancied themselves as part of a 'big six'?

              The "Big Six" is a more recent thing but Everton would have been in the 1980s when they won titles.

              As to their new manager, get Rooney for laughs.

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              @Bovidae The big 6 was always a thing, but it was based on crowd support, financial muscle and to some extent history more than anything else. Chelsea only joined the top table when they gained all the roubles. City weren't really a top 6 side either until the petro dollars they were a fringe contender.

              On those three criteria Everton were a top 6 club. In the 80's under Kendall they actually performed like one.

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              • dogmeatD dogmeat

                @Bovidae The big 6 was always a thing, but it was based on crowd support, financial muscle and to some extent history more than anything else. Chelsea only joined the top table when they gained all the roubles. City weren't really a top 6 side either until the petro dollars they were a fringe contender.

                On those three criteria Everton were a top 6 club. In the 80's under Kendall they actually performed like one.

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                @dogmeat said in EPL 2021 / 2022:

                @Bovidae The big 6 was always a thing, but it was based on crowd support, financial muscle and to some extent history more than anything else. Chelsea only joined the top table when they gained all the roubles. City weren't really a top 6 side either until the petro dollars they were a fringe contender.

                On those three criteria Everton were a top 6 club. In the 80's under Kendall they actually performed like one.

                Under Moyes they played in the champions league/European Cup

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                • canefanC canefan

                  @dogmeat said in EPL 2021 / 2022:

                  @Bovidae The big 6 was always a thing, but it was based on crowd support, financial muscle and to some extent history more than anything else. Chelsea only joined the top table when they gained all the roubles. City weren't really a top 6 side either until the petro dollars they were a fringe contender.

                  On those three criteria Everton were a top 6 club. In the 80's under Kendall they actually performed like one.

                  Under Moyes they played in the champions league/European Cup

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                  @canefan Fair point but under Kendall they actually won stuff.

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                    I'll bung this in here rather than start a new thread and someone can move it if necessary.

                    It is the centennial of the Chatham Cup
                    Nga Taonga Sound and Vision have a blog

                    https://www.ngataonga.org.nz/blog/nz-history/new-zealand-football-chatham-cup-reaches-100-year-milestone/

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                    • dogmeatD dogmeat

                      @canefan Fair point but under Kendall they actually won stuff.

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                      @dogmeat said in EPL 2021 / 2022:

                      @canefan Fair point but under Kendall they actually won stuff.

                      Yeah I wasn't saying you were wrong, just adding to your idea that Everton used to be pretty good

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                        Watched the 10 min highlights package, without knowing result, of Fulham v Sunderland in the FA Cup.

                        Time well spent.

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                          Thoughts on Dyche to Everton, 100 players to Chelsea (Enzo Fernandez becomes most expensive player in England) but Jorginho to the Arse, Cancelo out to Bayern, yet more players for Forest?

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                            Thoughts on Dyche to Everton, 100 players to Chelsea (Enzo Fernandez becomes most expensive player in England) but Jorginho to the Arse, Cancelo out to Bayern, yet more players for Forest?

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                            Every sympathy for Dyche. I guess expectations are low but nevertheless. Everton. Owner has to go. Board has to go and they're better off being relegated and starting again in the Championship - but not sure how that would impact the new stadium. If they do go down it's not certain they will bounce back up. Particularly under the current structure

                            100 players for Chelsea - 89 Mill quid seems a lot to be paying for a guy that couldn't get in the Shaktar first team until Fulham signed Manor Soloman. Chelsea are playing a risky game. They're getting around FFP by signing everyone on long term contracts so the amortised amount isn't that much. But (big BUT) that is mortgaging their future. If they don't make Champions League will it all come unstuck?

                            Clever signing of Jorginho. Cancelo seemed to be on the outer and Pep hasn't repeated his summer mistakes of strengthening a direct competitor for EPL. Forest seemed to be coming right after a slog to get the team right. Is that three teams they've signed this season? It seems like. Great way to solidify team unity. they look as though they're safe but if it was to go tits up they might be lucky if it's only another 30 years in the lower divisions. I'm old school but I find their approach abhorrent

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                              I'm pretty bored of the Chelsea bullshit.

                              Really sick of playing stupid money for players, only for them to not turn out. I really think desire to play for a club is everything, and clearly a lot of these guys have little interest in it.

                              Another 100mm gone to another player over much hype. This could well be another Lukaku load of shit. It's just an approach of throwing money at players to try and build a squad. Meanwhile, one our best players of our last few years has gone to Arsenal and it's barely a murmur.

                              Lame crap, which reeks of an owner having too much say.

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                                Chelsea are certainly paying overs for players without any obvious plan in place. That does suggest the owner and manager aren't on the same wavelength. How is Potter going to please all these players? And then they can only register 3 of the new signings for the CL. And still no striker.

                                From an Arsenal perspective, they obviously wanted Mudryk, and he wanted to go to Arsenal. But it all came down to money as Shakhtar wanted to maximise their fee, and Chelsea were only too happy to oblige. Benfica are laughing all the way to the bank as well (10x what they paid for Fernandez less than a year ago). Trossard and Jorginho should prove to be good signings to provide some depth. Experienced and EPL-ready. Arsenal's no.1 target in the summer is still Declan Rice.

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                                  Chelsea are certainly paying overs for players without any obvious plan in place. That does suggest the owner and manager aren't on the same wavelength. How is Potter going to please all these players? And then they can only register 3 of the new signings for the CL. And still no striker.

                                  From an Arsenal perspective, they obviously wanted Mudryk, and he wanted to go to Arsenal. But it all came down to money as Shakhtar wanted to maximise their fee, and Chelsea were only too happy to oblige. Benfica are laughing all the way to the bank as well (10x what they paid for Fernandez less than a year ago). Trossard and Jorginho should prove to be good signings to provide some depth. Experienced and EPL-ready. Arsenal's no.1 target in the summer is still Declan Rice.

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                                  @Bovidae said in EPL 2021 / 2022:

                                  Chelsea are certainly paying overs for players without any obvious plan in place. That does suggest the owner and manager aren't on the same wavelength. How is Potter going to please all these players? And then they can only register 3 of the new signings for the CL. And still no striker.

                                  From an Arsenal perspective, they obviously wanted Mudryk, and he wanted to go to Arsenal. But it all came down to money as Shakhtar wanted to maximise their fee, and Chelsea were only too happy to oblige. Benfica are laughing all the way to the bank as well (10x what they paid for Fernandez less than a year ago). Trossard and Jorginho should prove to be good signings to provide some depth. Experienced and EPL-ready. Arsenal's no.1 target in the summer is still Declan Rice.

                                  Exactly. Chelsea are a complete joke.

                                  Maybe I'm hanging on to something that just isn't there anymore. I watch teams like Brentford in absolute awe of what they've done, whilst Chelsea are basically just a laughing stock.

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                                  • BovidaeB Bovidae

                                    Chelsea are certainly paying overs for players without any obvious plan in place. That does suggest the owner and manager aren't on the same wavelength. How is Potter going to please all these players? And then they can only register 3 of the new signings for the CL. And still no striker.

                                    From an Arsenal perspective, they obviously wanted Mudryk, and he wanted to go to Arsenal. But it all came down to money as Shakhtar wanted to maximise their fee, and Chelsea were only too happy to oblige. Benfica are laughing all the way to the bank as well (10x what they paid for Fernandez less than a year ago). Trossard and Jorginho should prove to be good signings to provide some depth. Experienced and EPL-ready. Arsenal's no.1 target in the summer is still Declan Rice.

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                                    @Bovidae said in EPL 2021 / 2022:

                                    Chelsea are certainly paying overs for players without any obvious plan in place. That does suggest the owner and manager aren't on the same wavelength. How is Potter going to please all these players? And then they can only register 3 of the new signings for the CL. And still no striker.

                                    From an Arsenal perspective, they obviously wanted Mudryk, and he wanted to go to Arsenal. But it all came down to money as Shakhtar wanted to maximise their fee, and Chelsea were only too happy to oblige. Benfica are laughing all the way to the bank as well (10x what they paid for Fernandez less than a year ago). Trossard and Jorginho should prove to be good signings to provide some depth. Experienced and EPL-ready. Arsenal's no.1 target in the summer is still Declan Rice.

                                    They sound like Spurs in disguise, just with more money

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                                      Chelsea's spend in this window was more than every team in la Liga, Serie a and the Bundesliga combined apparently.

                                      Will be interesting to watch how Mudryk goes and whether Chelsea look like geniuses for hijacking the move or if arsenal dodged a bullet.

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                                        Personally I think the cherries have spent well this window, if we could have got Zaniolo it could have been a brilliant window. Now to put together some results

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                                          Was just reading about Matt Doherty. Spurs were planning to loan him to Atletico Madrid only to realise after negotiations had been finalised that they had reached the limit of international loans (I didn't know that was a thing either but then I don't work in the transfer department of a premier league club) so they ended up having to agree a mutual contract termination effectively giving him to Atletico on a free. What utter incompetence.

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