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2023 School Rugby

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    A couple of new coaches to start the season.

    Jack Kirifi (father of Du’Plessis) is moving from Taranaki Rugby to New Plymouth BHS.

    https://www.stuff.co.nz/taranaki-daily-news/news/131083266/longserving-taranaki-development-officer-heads-back-to-school

    Reuben Samuel will be the new coach of the Hamilton GHS 1st XV and sevens teams. He has previously been involved with the Black Ferns, the Waikato FPC team and more recently the Brazilian women's sevens team.

    https://hail.to/hghs/article/n2aWSxD

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      A couple of new coaches to start the season.

      Jack Kirifi (father of Du’Plessis) is moving from Taranaki Rugby to New Plymouth BHS.

      https://www.stuff.co.nz/taranaki-daily-news/news/131083266/longserving-taranaki-development-officer-heads-back-to-school

      Reuben Samuel will be the new coach of the Hamilton GHS 1st XV and sevens teams. He has previously been involved with the Black Ferns, the Waikato FPC team and more recently the Brazilian women's sevens team.

      https://hail.to/hghs/article/n2aWSxD

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      @Bovidae signs of how serious the schools are taking girls/womend rugby I think.

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      • BovidaeB Bovidae

        A couple of new coaches to start the season.

        Jack Kirifi (father of Du’Plessis) is moving from Taranaki Rugby to New Plymouth BHS.

        https://www.stuff.co.nz/taranaki-daily-news/news/131083266/longserving-taranaki-development-officer-heads-back-to-school

        Reuben Samuel will be the new coach of the Hamilton GHS 1st XV and sevens teams. He has previously been involved with the Black Ferns, the Waikato FPC team and more recently the Brazilian women's sevens team.

        https://hail.to/hghs/article/n2aWSxD

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        @Bovidae Geez, as if Hamilton GHS wasn't dominant enough haha.

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          @Bovidae Geez, as if Hamilton GHS wasn't dominant enough haha.

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          @Stargazer said in 2023 School Rugby:

          @Bovidae Geez, as if Hamilton GHS wasn't dominant enough haha.

          I've no idea who the previous coach was but they haven't been as strong in recent years. Manurewa HS beat HGHS in the Chiefs competition last year to make the Top 4. Manukura is the strongest girls team followed by CGHS.

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            @Stargazer said in 2023 School Rugby:

            @Bovidae Geez, as if Hamilton GHS wasn't dominant enough haha.

            I've no idea who the previous coach was but they haven't been as strong in recent years. Manurewa HS beat HGHS in the Chiefs competition last year to make the Top 4. Manukura is the strongest girls team followed by CGHS.

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            @Bovidae I think Manukura is coached by Kristina Sue? Very strong team indeed. I hope Emma Jensen can make a difference at Hastings Girls (who always get hammered terribly by Manukura), although she's more a Director of Rugby (I think) than a coach.

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            • StargazerS Stargazer

              @Bovidae I think Manukura is coached by Kristina Sue? Very strong team indeed. I hope Emma Jensen can make a difference at Hastings Girls (who always get hammered terribly by Manukura), although she's more a Director of Rugby (I think) than a coach.

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              @Stargazer said in 2023 School Rugby:

              @Bovidae I think Manukura is coached by Kristina Sue? Very strong team indeed.

              Yes. Listed as a Māori sports academy. Although Manukura has a very small school roll (<200) it will be attracting all the best from around the region.

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              • StargazerS Stargazer

                @Bovidae I think Manukura is coached by Kristina Sue? Very strong team indeed. I hope Emma Jensen can make a difference at Hastings Girls (who always get hammered terribly by Manukura), although she's more a Director of Rugby (I think) than a coach.

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                @Stargazer it still blows my mind that hastings girls are good.

                Year's ago I did a reffing course with school (03/04 maybe) and got roped into reffing the hghs games for a season.

                I think games were meant to be 30min each way. Most of the time I would blow the first half after twenty mins and the second after 12 mins and the score would still be close to 100-0. Obviously the team was new to the school but man they sucked. Maybe it was just me wishing someone did that when our lindisfarne team played hastings boys...

                Couldn't imagine a male school making such a shift in like 10 years (without scots college cheque book). Awesome for the woman's game though.

                Out of interest with some of the stronger schools in girls rugby how many team's would each school have, like is there multiple grades or do some just play five years of firsts.

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                  @Stargazer it still blows my mind that hastings girls are good.

                  Year's ago I did a reffing course with school (03/04 maybe) and got roped into reffing the hghs games for a season.

                  I think games were meant to be 30min each way. Most of the time I would blow the first half after twenty mins and the second after 12 mins and the score would still be close to 100-0. Obviously the team was new to the school but man they sucked. Maybe it was just me wishing someone did that when our lindisfarne team played hastings boys...

                  Couldn't imagine a male school making such a shift in like 10 years (without scots college cheque book). Awesome for the woman's game though.

                  Out of interest with some of the stronger schools in girls rugby how many team's would each school have, like is there multiple grades or do some just play five years of firsts.

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                  @Magpie_in_aus I think Hastings Girls' started their rugby programme (the only one for girls in HB) only one or two years ago. I'd say it's all thanks to Emma Jensen, who is vice-principal at the school. I think they have two teams, a 1st XV and an U15 team, but possibly the U15s only play rugby tens. So it's basically early days for HGHS's programme. Not sure I'd call Hastings GHS "good" compared to other girls' 1st XV in the country, but they're currently the best in HB and I'd expect that programme to result in improvements every year. Whether they'll ever be a 1st XV girls' power house? I guess we'll notice it (or not) when we see their results against Manukura, Wellington's St Mary's College and (I think) Feilding HS' in the Hurricanes' Rex Kerr Cup comp (the Hurricanes' Girls' Top 4 qualifier). I think they're already dominating the girls schools' competition in HB, which is really small.

                  I guess whether schools have more than a 1st XV will depend on the size and strength of the school. The Wellington girls' comp definitely has more than 1st XV level, but I don't really follow it so don't know which other levels. If I look at HB, then there is a 1st XV comp and a smaller U15 comp (that may be rugby 10s).

                  Apart from HGHS, there's Karamu HS, Napier GHS (some years ago they had a 1st XV on their own, but I think they have been combining with William Collenso for the last few years) and Wairoa College. There are only a few more in the comp, possibly Hukarere Girls' College and/or Tamatea HS. Not sure about other girls 1st XV teams.

                  The HBRU's info about schools' rugby is non-existent, and many schools are terrible at social media as well, so it's usually only by accident that I see info about girls' rugby in HB.

                  I'm sure @Bovidae knows much more about the girls comp (grades) in the Chiefs region.

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                    Up in the Waikato, the top schools play in the new Chiefs Manawa competition that started last year. Most schools have one team, playing in the 1st XV comp which had two pools last year. There is also a U15/development grade. Hamilton girls is the only school with more than one team with The top team in the Manawa comp, a development team in the local comp and an U15 team. The S.U.R.F club in Tokoroa have two teams also.

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                    • mikedogzM mikedogz

                      Up in the Waikato, the top schools play in the new Chiefs Manawa competition that started last year. Most schools have one team, playing in the 1st XV comp which had two pools last year. There is also a U15/development grade. Hamilton girls is the only school with more than one team with The top team in the Manawa comp, a development team in the local comp and an U15 team. The S.U.R.F club in Tokoroa have two teams also.

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                      @mikedogz said in 2023 School Rugby:

                      Up in the Waikato, the top schools play in the new Chiefs Manawa competition that started last year. Most schools have one team, playing in the 1st XV comp which had two pools last year. There is also a U15/development grade. Hamilton girls is the only school with more than one team with The top team in the Manawa comp, a development team in the local comp and an U15 team. The S.U.R.F club in Tokoroa have two teams also.

                      Do you have a link/list?

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                        Going from what I saw last year following the local results.

                        https://www.mooloo.co.nz/community/secondary-schools

                        Manawa
                        https://www.sporty.co.nz/asset/downloadasset?id=b5d9be1b-9872-4817-8831-51f6e3ef8d27

                        https://www.facebook.com/ChiefsManawa1stVX

                        To be a true chiefs comp they need to get the Counties schools in. Manurewa and Wesley.

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                          I'm not too familiar with the lower levels of the Waikato girl's competition but it appears that neither of the two posh schools (Waikato Diocesan and St Peter's Cambridge) have teams.

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                            https://www.nzrugby.co.nz/get-involved/schools/competitions-and-events/regional-cup-and-carnival-events/

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                              From the Club Rugby website:

                              The dates have been set for the annual Transit First XV pre-season Festival. The Wellington leg will be played at the NZCIS ground in Upper Hutt on Saturday 29 April and the Hastings leg is on Saturday 6 May.

                              The teams competing this year are: St Pat’s Silverstream, St Pat’s Town, Wellington College, Rongotai College, Hastings BHS, Palmerston North BHS, Gisborne BHS and Feilding High School. Feilding are taking the place of Napier BHS, who will be contesting the Sanix World Rugby Youth Invitational Tournament in Japan.

                              So Napier Boys' are going to Japan instead of Hamilton Boys', who've already played in that World Schools Festival.

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                                From the Club Rugby website:

                                The dates have been set for the annual Transit First XV pre-season Festival. The Wellington leg will be played at the NZCIS ground in Upper Hutt on Saturday 29 April and the Hastings leg is on Saturday 6 May.

                                The teams competing this year are: St Pat’s Silverstream, St Pat’s Town, Wellington College, Rongotai College, Hastings BHS, Palmerston North BHS, Gisborne BHS and Feilding High School. Feilding are taking the place of Napier BHS, who will be contesting the Sanix World Rugby Youth Invitational Tournament in Japan.

                                So Napier Boys' are going to Japan instead of Hamilton Boys', who've already played in that World Schools Festival.

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                                @Stargazer does that mean Hamilton are still unwelcome after their controversey a few years back?

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                                  @Stargazer does that mean Hamilton are still unwelcome after their controversey a few years back?

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                                  @OleOleOle Which controversy? I think Hamilton Boys' aren't going because they've already played in that other tournament. Two overseas' tournaments may be a bit too expensive?

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                                    @OleOleOle Which controversy? I think Hamilton Boys' aren't going because they've already played in that other tournament. Two overseas' tournaments may be a bit too expensive?

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                                    @Stargazer yeah, that might be it. The last time they attended Sannix a few of their students were caught shoplifting, unsurpirsingly it didn't go down well with the Japanese

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                                      Good that NBHS get to go to Japan, but the trouble with the Sanix tournament is that the team that attends is usually very different as some key players in that team have left school. A NZ school hasn't won it in a while.

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                                        Good that NBHS get to go to Japan, but the trouble with the Sanix tournament is that the team that attends is usually very different as some key players in that team have left school. A NZ school hasn't won it in a while.

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                                        @Bovidae Yeah, I've no idea what this year's squad will be like. They had quite a few year 12s in the 1st XV, last year, so there will be some players with experience, but some of their best have left school (like Gus Brown, Max Ratcliffe, Adam Curran, Angus Prouting and - I think Corey Berkett).

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                                          Whangarei Boys High name a team for pre season v Rotorua.

                                          Several names I don't recognise, the ones I do I am not sure they have a very big team this year but many are supremely fit, are a few young fellas too.

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