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    @Tim he's right. There are people inside the castle who have no idea what they're doing, but you get that with any corporate.

    I was at training for my little 4th Division grassroots club on Wednesday, and a local U10s league side were using one end of the ground.

    Got talking to one of the Dads (I was cheekily handing out our flyers to nearby parents), and he happens to be the President of one of the bigger junior rugby clubs in the area. We lamented the loss of direction and the break in the pathways here after a kid plays school rugby.

    I'm sure we're not alone in this, but as a refresher course:

    1. Kid plays for local village / junior club
    2. Around 15 if they're at the right school, they might get good enough to play in one of the top XVs
    3. They're told by the school they can't play for their junior club any more
    4. Junior club's 16-18 age brackets start to fold because of a lack of numbers*
    5. A percentage of those players will go onto a top club's U20 program and even provincial
    6. Or they just leave the game

    *Yes there is other attrition here as kids might simply get sick of rugby etc.

    Continuity is important IMHO. Keeping those kids playing through to U18 at their village club helps the club and the kid, and then they're ready to join the local senior club's Colts U20/21 side for senior rugby if they're not on the pro pathway.

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    @NTA said in Aussie Rugby:

    Continuity is important IMHO. Keeping those kids playing through to U18 at their village club helps the club and the kid, and then they're ready to join the local senior club's Colts U20/21 side for senior rugby if they're not on the pro pathway.

    That's the problem. If they aren't selected for colts, they are gatekept out of fourths by senior prems and 2nds players who no longer want to go to training twice a week. So without the ability to play they leave. And they're the type of player that should and would become clubmen given the chance.

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      on field pre season training started this week, nice big turnout for the boys, making the final last year may have raised our profile a little

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        on field pre season training started this week, nice big turnout for the boys, making the final last year may have raised our profile a little

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        @Kiwiwomble said in Aussie Rugby:

        on field pre season training started this week, nice big turnout for the boys, making the final last year may have raised our profile a little

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        I'll take "things i do not miss" for $500 thanks Alex

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          @Stargazer these retirement announcements for dudes i thought already retired just keep coming.

          Not a bad little player, and had a cool career

          got a "rule" named after him in Aus.

          job done

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          @mariner4life thats definitely how i feel when these guys trail off with their carriers, signing several 1-2 year deals, plays for a few different clubs around the world so easy to lose track of them, not the same as someone like one club Mccaw

          also just looked it up, he's been playing at the top level since 2001 (must have only been 19)...thats a long carrier

          @mariner4life said in Aussie Rugby:

          @Kiwiwomble said in Aussie Rugby:

          on field pre season training started this week, nice big turnout for the boys, making the final last year may have raised our profile a little

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          I'll take "things i do not miss" for $500 thanks Alex

          only managing so not only do i not need to turn up until we break into squads...when i do turn up its not exactly strenuous, the most i do is throw a lineout or feed the scrum

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          • KiwiwombleK Kiwiwomble

            on field pre season training started this week, nice big turnout for the boys, making the final last year may have raised our profile a little

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            @Kiwiwomble said in Aussie Rugby:

            on field pre season training started this week, nice big turnout for the boys, making the final last year may have raised our profile a little

            Definitely helps. Not sure how we're travelling just yet. Had around a dozen to our pre-pre-season and hopefully numbers build from here.

            Looks like our women's program will fold, unfortunately. I got a few new bites but the coach has had enough I reckon and won't be back, particularly after some of our star players defected to a bigger club who do things like Dubai and Las Vegas 7s.

            Wanted Colts U21 this year but not enough cohesion with local schools who barely want to know us.

            It's a shame because we've got a pro-grade field and a great pub. But we're deep in Western Sydney and there are no organised pathways to funnel 3rd and 4th XV school kids into amateur rugby, and the good guys go play league for money anyway.

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              Running a club fucking sucks. I've been either President or Secretary for just over 5 years now and it's the same fucking shit every year.

              There has been some help offered via particular personnel at Rugby Australia, but they just don't get the challenges we face as a small, newer Western Sydney club versus the big, traditional Eastern Suburbs nuffies.

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                @Kiwiwomble said in Aussie Rugby:

                on field pre season training started this week, nice big turnout for the boys, making the final last year may have raised our profile a little

                Definitely helps. Not sure how we're travelling just yet. Had around a dozen to our pre-pre-season and hopefully numbers build from here.

                Looks like our women's program will fold, unfortunately. I got a few new bites but the coach has had enough I reckon and won't be back, particularly after some of our star players defected to a bigger club who do things like Dubai and Las Vegas 7s.

                Wanted Colts U21 this year but not enough cohesion with local schools who barely want to know us.

                It's a shame because we've got a pro-grade field and a great pub. But we're deep in Western Sydney and there are no organised pathways to funnel 3rd and 4th XV school kids into amateur rugby, and the good guys go play league for money anyway.

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                @NTA said in Aussie Rugby:

                @Kiwiwomble said in Aussie Rugby:

                on field pre season training started this week, nice big turnout for the boys, making the final last year may have raised our profile a little

                Definitely helps. Not sure how we're travelling just yet. Had around a dozen to our pre-pre-season and hopefully numbers build from here.

                Looks like our women's program will fold, unfortunately. I got a few new bites but the coach has had enough I reckon and won't be back, particularly after some of our star players defected to a bigger club who do things like Dubai and Las Vegas 7s.

                Wanted Colts U21 this year but not enough cohesion with local schools who barely want to know us.

                It's a shame because we've got a pro-grade field and a great pub. But we're deep in Western Sydney and there are no organised pathways to funnel 3rd and 4th XV school kids into amateur rugby, and the good guys go play league for money anyway.

                sorry to hear about your womens and colts

                We haven't had a colts team for years and couldn't field a womens team last year, but both are back this year which is great

                Had over 40 for the first session on tuesday with quite a few new faces, fingers crossed we can keep the numbers up

                Ive mentioned before we dont have a club room, well...we do but its over a km from our field so there is very little to attract old mates back and too easy to lose people going between the ground and the dungeon, i'll admit to more often than not opting to heading home after the songs are sung and a couple of beers have been had in the changing room...my aim is to hang around at least until we fund/build our new club rooms, all consented etc...just need the final cash

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                • KiwiwombleK Kiwiwomble

                  @NTA said in Aussie Rugby:

                  @Kiwiwomble said in Aussie Rugby:

                  on field pre season training started this week, nice big turnout for the boys, making the final last year may have raised our profile a little

                  Definitely helps. Not sure how we're travelling just yet. Had around a dozen to our pre-pre-season and hopefully numbers build from here.

                  Looks like our women's program will fold, unfortunately. I got a few new bites but the coach has had enough I reckon and won't be back, particularly after some of our star players defected to a bigger club who do things like Dubai and Las Vegas 7s.

                  Wanted Colts U21 this year but not enough cohesion with local schools who barely want to know us.

                  It's a shame because we've got a pro-grade field and a great pub. But we're deep in Western Sydney and there are no organised pathways to funnel 3rd and 4th XV school kids into amateur rugby, and the good guys go play league for money anyway.

                  sorry to hear about your womens and colts

                  We haven't had a colts team for years and couldn't field a womens team last year, but both are back this year which is great

                  Had over 40 for the first session on tuesday with quite a few new faces, fingers crossed we can keep the numbers up

                  Ive mentioned before we dont have a club room, well...we do but its over a km from our field so there is very little to attract old mates back and too easy to lose people going between the ground and the dungeon, i'll admit to more often than not opting to heading home after the songs are sung and a couple of beers have been had in the changing room...my aim is to hang around at least until we fund/build our new club rooms, all consented etc...just need the final cash

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                  @Kiwiwomble said in Aussie Rugby:

                  Ive mentioned before we dont have a club room, well...we do but its over a km from our field so there is very little to attract old mates back and too easy to lose people going between the ground and the dungeon, i'll admit to more often than not opting to heading home after the songs are sung and a couple of beers have been had in the changing room...my aim is to hang around at least until we fund/build our new club rooms, all consented etc...just need the final cash

                  Good plan.

                  Our pub is a 10 minute drive from the ground but given it is the first time we've been at the same ground for 3 years, it is a matter of taking the victories on offer.

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                    BTW this is the benefit of having Parramatta Eels do your ground management as opposed to Council:

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                        thats a great pitch!

                        ours is about to have a tent village and temporary stand established for the F1.....

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                        • KiwiwombleK Kiwiwomble

                          thats a great pitch!

                          ours is about to have a tent village and temporary stand established for the F1.....

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                          @Kiwiwomble said in Aussie Rugby:

                          thats a great pitch!

                          Definitely more fun getting tackled on that compared to a cricket pitch

                          ours is about to have a tent village and temporary stand established for the F1.....

                          Awesome timing with pre-season underway.

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                            @Kiwiwomble said in Aussie Rugby:

                            thats a great pitch!

                            Definitely more fun getting tackled on that compared to a cricket pitch

                            ours is about to have a tent village and temporary stand established for the F1.....

                            Awesome timing with pre-season underway.

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                            @NTA said in Aussie Rugby:

                            Awesome timing with pre-season underway.

                            yeah every year....often have to play the first few games away from home as the pitch hasn't recovered yet

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                              This is our training ground in use for the U18s trial
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                              Our game pitch is better.

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                                @NTA said in Aussie Rugby:

                                @KiwiMurph badly needed promotion though.

                                Until, like, you know ... results ...

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                                @booboo said in Aussie Rugby:

                                @NTA said in Aussie Rugby:

                                @KiwiMurph badly needed promotion though.

                                Until, like, you know ... results ...

                                We're in Schrodinger's Wallabies period right now - they are both dead and alive until the box is opened.

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                                  @Kiwiwomble said in Aussie Rugby:

                                  on field pre season training started this week, nice big turnout for the boys, making the final last year may have raised our profile a little

                                  Definitely helps. Not sure how we're travelling just yet. Had around a dozen to our pre-pre-season and hopefully numbers build from here.

                                  Looks like our women's program will fold, unfortunately. I got a few new bites but the coach has had enough I reckon and won't be back, particularly after some of our star players defected to a bigger club who do things like Dubai and Las Vegas 7s.

                                  Wanted Colts U21 this year but not enough cohesion with local schools who barely want to know us.

                                  It's a shame because we've got a pro-grade field and a great pub. But we're deep in Western Sydney and there are no organised pathways to funnel 3rd and 4th XV school kids into amateur rugby, and the good guys go play league for money anyway.

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                                  @NTA said in Aussie Rugby:

                                  Looks like our women's program will fold, unfortunately.

                                  Confirmed. Bummer.

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                                    @NTA said in Aussie Rugby:

                                    Looks like our women's program will fold, unfortunately.

                                    Confirmed. Bummer.

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                                    @NTA said in Aussie Rugby:

                                    @NTA said in Aussie Rugby:

                                    Looks like our women's program will fold, unfortunately.

                                    Confirmed. Bummer.

                                    Bummer mate, hopefully with some girls in line to get paid, could just hopefully encourage some more girls to get into the game !

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                                    • NTAN NTA

                                      @NTA said in Aussie Rugby:

                                      Looks like our women's program will fold, unfortunately.

                                      Confirmed. Bummer.

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                                      @NTA said in Aussie Rugby:

                                      @NTA said in Aussie Rugby:

                                      Looks like our women's program will fold, unfortunately.

                                      Confirmed. Bummer.

                                      really sorry to hear that mate, if its any consolation, as i mentioned above, we had to fold our last year but have managed to look like we'll get it back this year, fingers crossed

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                                        Cheers lads. Hopefully it isn't completely dead yet as one of our guys was talking to a couple of rugby league girls at work. Maybe they're keen and we can resurrect things for a couple of tournaments this season.

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                                          Cheers lads. Hopefully it isn't completely dead yet as one of our guys was talking to a couple of rugby league girls at work. Maybe they're keen and we can resurrect things for a couple of tournaments this season.

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                                          @NTA local gaelic football club is borrowing one of our two fields to train on....i was very surprised to see a good 100 women down there training last week....was wondering how we might be able to entice some of them over...how is your irish population?

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