India v Aus
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I remember getting shit years ago when South Africa toured when we had VERY green pitches, suited our seamers well and not so much their bowlers….I’m sure this is pretty much the same thing…but it feels wrong, at least with a generally green pitch both are playing on the same surface…here being so specificity tailored….they’re almost going to be playing completely different surfaces
@Kiwiwomble said in India v Aus:
I remember getting shit years ago when South Africa toured when we had VERY green pitches, suited our seamers well and not so much their bowlers….I’m sure this is pretty much the same thing…but it feels wrong, at least with a generally green pitch both are playing on the same surface…here being so specificity tailored….they’re almost going to be playing completely different surfaces
One of the aspects of touring is dealing with the local conditions; hard pitches, green pitches etc.. What the Pajeets are doing is entirely different.
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It is 'wrong', but not technically illegal. But, it is also funny, because it isn't us, even better that it is Australia.
This isn't just "home pitches favour home teams, so suck it up," etc. I'm fine with all that. Go for gold prepping a spinning pitch, IMO. But it should be prepared evenly.
Reminds me of the stories of Kent and Derek Underwood. Where one end was prepared differently to the other, in 1970s county cricket.
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It is a strange phenomenon that LHBs are very rare in the Indian system. Where as in most other countries the proportion of LHBs that rise to the top are waaaaaaaaay out of proportion to the numbers in society. Even accounting for those who bat with their 'wrong' hand compared to their bowling and throwing.
I think I've read/heard that they generally get eaten up in the system that probably has 0.8 billion really good off-spinners.
So, contrary to other countries, being a LHB is a disadvantage in India. But, why this wouldn't also hold true for Sri Lanka etc, I don't get. As SL could be called the land of the LHB. So, probably a theory that needs more analysis ...
But, honestly. Try to list Indian LHBs' Ganguly, Gambhir, Kambli .... thats it right? in about 40 years? Unless you are a nerd and remember Wookeri Raman in the 1990 tour here ....
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@Kiwiwomble said in India v Aus:
I remember getting shit years ago when South Africa toured when we had VERY green pitches, suited our seamers well and not so much their bowlers….I’m sure this is pretty much the same thing…but it feels wrong, at least with a generally green pitch both are playing on the same surface…here being so specificity tailored….they’re almost going to be playing completely different surfaces
One of the aspects of touring is dealing with the local conditions; hard pitches, green pitches etc.. What the Pajeets are doing is entirely different.
@antipodean said in India v Aus:
One of the aspects of touring is dealing with the local conditions; hard pitches, green pitches etc.. What the Pajeets are doing is entirely different.
Either make a dustbowl, or don't.
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Good luck to them I say. If that's what the national team has to stoop to in order to not get murdered by their billion crazy fans, at least we've ensured the lives of a dozen cricketing millionaires and their corrupt-as-fuck millionaire administrators, while large parts of their population shit in the street.
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Good luck to them I say. If that's what the national team has to stoop to in order to not get murdered by their billion crazy fans, at least we've ensured the lives of a dozen cricketing millionaires and their corrupt-as-fuck millionaire administrators, while large parts of their population shit in the street.
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I remember getting shit years ago when South Africa toured when we had VERY green pitches, suited our seamers well and not so much their bowlers….I’m sure this is pretty much the same thing…but it feels wrong, at least with a generally green pitch both are playing on the same surface…here being so specificity tailored….they’re almost going to be playing completely different surfaces
@Kiwiwomble said in India v Aus:
I remember getting shit years ago when South Africa toured when we had VERY green pitches, suited our seamers well and not so much their bowlers….I’m sure this is pretty much the same thing…but it feels wrong, at least with a generally green pitch both are playing on the same surface…here being so specificity tailored….they’re almost going to be playing completely different surfaces
When on earth was this? and by who?
This sounds completely wrong. Usually South Africa are so well matched to us, have the same strengths but are just better than us, that we prepare dull/dry pitches. - presumably hoping for draws? To not much avail. South African tours to NZ are usually the dullest run-fests. Think 1999 especially.
A South African tour seems get us double-guessing our cricketing purpose for being on this earth. To which the answer seems to be, 'meh. Lets just limit the damage'.
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@Kiwiwomble said in India v Aus:
I remember getting shit years ago when South Africa toured when we had VERY green pitches, suited our seamers well and not so much their bowlers….I’m sure this is pretty much the same thing…but it feels wrong, at least with a generally green pitch both are playing on the same surface…here being so specificity tailored….they’re almost going to be playing completely different surfaces
When on earth was this? and by who?
This sounds completely wrong. Usually South Africa are so well matched to us, have the same strengths but are just better than us, that we prepare dull/dry pitches. - presumably hoping for draws? To not much avail. South African tours to NZ are usually the dullest run-fests. Think 1999 especially.
A South African tour seems get us double-guessing our cricketing purpose for being on this earth. To which the answer seems to be, 'meh. Lets just limit the damage'.
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Apart from the modern NZ day 1 fake green-road, that were for both tests last year. South Africa have never hit a green-top in NZ since re-admission.
If they did, they would have ripped us apart with Donald, Pollock, Steyn, Philander, Morkel et al.
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Apart from the modern NZ day 1 fake green-road, that were for both tests last year. South Africa have never hit a green-top in NZ since re-admission.
If they did, they would have ripped us apart with Donald, Pollock, Steyn, Philander, Morkel et al.
@Rapido that link doesn't actually say what the pitches were like though does it?
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I recall (maybe completely incorrectly) that a few years ago there was a number of pitch's prepared in NZ that looked hideously green but the played quite well?
May have been something to do with covid and not having time to prepare them correctly so they had to have the grass there to hold them together otherwise they'd fall apart?
They'd look green as apples on the first day, then brown off and yeah by day 5 they were literally falling to pieces.
Of course I can't remember any useful information like dates or who they were playing that might help identify when this happened.
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@KiwiMurph said in India v Aus:
Aus win the toss and bat.
Khawaja gone thanks to a successful Indian review.
good review! Looked marginal live, but they really got that right. Well done.
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It is a strange phenomenon that LHBs are very rare in the Indian system. Where as in most other countries the proportion of LHBs that rise to the top are waaaaaaaaay out of proportion to the numbers in society. Even accounting for those who bat with their 'wrong' hand compared to their bowling and throwing.
I think I've read/heard that they generally get eaten up in the system that probably has 0.8 billion really good off-spinners.
So, contrary to other countries, being a LHB is a disadvantage in India. But, why this wouldn't also hold true for Sri Lanka etc, I don't get. As SL could be called the land of the LHB. So, probably a theory that needs more analysis ...
But, honestly. Try to list Indian LHBs' Ganguly, Gambhir, Kambli .... thats it right? in about 40 years? Unless you are a nerd and remember Wookeri Raman in the 1990 tour here ....
@Rapido said in India v Aus:
It is a strange phenomenon that LHBs are very rare in the Indian system. Where as in most other countries the proportion of LHBs that rise to the top are waaaaaaaaay out of proportion to the numbers in society. Even accounting for those who bat with their 'wrong' hand compared to their bowling and throwing.
I think I've read/heard that they generally get eaten up in the system that probably has 0.8 billion really good off-spinners.
So, contrary to other countries, being a LHB is a disadvantage in India. But, why this wouldn't also hold true for Sri Lanka etc, I don't get. As SL could be called the land of the LHB. So, probably a theory that needs more analysis ...
But, honestly. Try to list Indian LHBs' Ganguly, Gambhir, Kambli .... thats it right? in about 40 years? Unless you are a nerd and remember Wookeri Raman in the 1990 tour here ....
There's a theory about it relating to hockey for women's cricket here - maybe hockey alongside those 800 million offspinners in India too...
https://twitter.com/FPayne100/status/1484001687539183619
And a related conversation further into the thread:
https://twitter.com/Burrows31Abby/status/1484063595218731011
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@Rapido im honest not sure, im not even sure it works, just that there was a bit out outcry that we were trying it
@Kiwiwomble said in India v Aus:
@Rapido im honest not sure, im not even sure it works, just that there was a bit out outcry that we were trying it
Might have been a different team?
I remember when John Wright brought his Indians out here, we gave them something as green as Queen Jealousy's fiery green gown!
Wee Davey gone and it's a thing of beauty to send him on his way - cartwheeling stumps!!!
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@Kiwiwomble said in India v Aus:
@Rapido im honest not sure, im not even sure it works, just that there was a bit out outcry that we were trying it
Might have been a different team?
I remember when John Wright brought his Indians out here, we gave them something as green as Queen Jealousy's fiery green gown!
Wee Davey gone and it's a thing of beauty to send him on his way - cartwheeling stumps!!!
@Chris-B quite possibly, im definitely not an Almanac, wasn;t so much about who it was against as pointing out pitches that favour the home team are not new and NZ are not above doing it...but this is at best a very extreme example of it
