High School Rugby

Wurzel

There's plenty of flaws in the way that dude does his ratings. For the player ratings he finds a phone number for a kid who's in a certain school's 1st XV and has a yarn with them about who are the best players in the team. Before the season started there were students messing him around for a joke and telling him a 15-year-old fringe player was a GOAT or giving him wrong positions or just making up names.
 
I wondered how he could compare a kid from Southland to a kid from Rosmini when those schools may only have one TV game a year. It's all guess work, conjecture and facebook snooping.

taniwharugby

yeah he said he rates them based on them as a person as well rather than just on field performance, similarly the team standings, I don't think HBHS have won every game with a BP but sit higher than MAGS who have a BP from every game...?
 
So yes they are subjective, but is more other info on there which is good

Wurzel

Hastings are ranked higher because he seeded them way higher than MAGS to begin the season based on his reconnaissance.

taniwharugby

yeah I think he said if MAGS beat Sacred Heart they will go ahead of HBHS regardless of how their next match goes....

Bovidae

I'd never seen that website before. You might disagree with his rankings but good on him for taking the time. 
 
It's almost impossible to rank players without seeing them all play. I've seen Florence play live - he's a ginga so hard to miss.
 
For the teams, we will get a better indication of the relative strength of each school once the Top 4 playoffs start. Hastings has already beaten a few Wellington teams this season and play Ham BHS at home on Aug 6. 5 Auckland schools in his Top 10 but only 1 can advance to the Top 4 finals.

hydro11

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yeah he said he rates them based on them as a person as well rather than just on field performance, similarly the team standings, I don't think HBHS have won every game with a BP but sit higher than MAGS who have a BP from every game...?
 
So yes they are subjective, but is more other info on there which is good
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Super 8 is a lot harder than the Auckland competition, I think. Especially given the amount of All Blacks produced.

Wurzel

Heard some odd stat last year that 60% of NZ Super Rugby squads are made up of Auckland 1A alumni

Higgins

I didn't realise they had that many scholarship players in their schools up there!

mimic

There's also quite few a Auckland 1A representation in the NRL as well

Immenso Rapido

I was just reading an article the other day, from when the herald were going a feature on the poaching and other stuff going on in the 1A Comp. 
This was back in 2013 I think, but a stat was at that time the 1A had only produced 1 all black in the last 7 years, and that AB was Benson Stanley. 
Have there been many or any since? Luatua? Ofa T last week (or was he Counties?), maybe Piutau? or again was he schooled in Counties? 
That's fucking atrocious. 
How many All Blacks has e.g. Manawatu's schools produce in the same 10 year time frame? Whitelocks x 3, NMS, C Taylor, A Smith, Cruden

Nepia

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I was just reading an article the other day, from when the herald were going a feature on the poaching and other stuff going on in the 1A Comp. 
This was back in 2013 I think, but a stat was at that time the 1A had only produced 1 all black in the last 7 years, and that AB was Benson Stanley. 
Have there been many or any since? Luatua? Ofa T last week (or was he Counties?) 
That's fucking atrocious. 
How many All Blacks has e.g. Manawatu's schools produce in the same 10 year time frame? Whitelocks x 3, NMS, C Taylor, A Smith, Cruden
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Yep, the Super 8 teams must have a decent number of ABs over that 10 year period.

mikedogz

Piutau went to Wesley, so did Pulu and Fekitoa.

African Monkey

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I was just reading an article the other day, from when the herald were going a feature on the poaching and other stuff going on in the 1A Comp. 
This was back in 2013 I think, but a stat was at that time the 1A had only produced 1 all black in the last 7 years, and that AB was Benson Stanley. 
Have there been many or any since? Luatua? Ofa T last week (or was he Counties?) 
That's fucking atrocious. 
How many All Blacks has e.g. Manawatu's schools produce in the same 10 year time frame? Whitelocks x 3, NMS, C Taylor, A Smith, Cruden
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Ofa T never played 1A rugby as his school was and still is a 1B school. There's been Pat Tuipulotu, George Moala, Francis Saili, Ben Afeaki, James Parsons and Seta Tamanivalu off the top of my head possibly more but can't think of any at the moment.

Immenso Rapido

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Ofa T never played 1A rugby as his school was and still is a 1B school. There's been Pat Tuipulotu, George Moala, Francis Saili, Ben Afeaki, James Parsons and Seta Tamanivalu off the top of my head possibly more but can't think of any at the moment.</blockquote>
Cheers. So, Quite a few more, 
Although I think Parsons would be too old to fit the criteria, if I was to nitpick ...... 
Even more than Mr and Mrs Whitelock.

African Monkey

Easy win for MAGS over Sacred Heart. St Peters defeated AGS 19-13 in a tight encounter and with Kelston and Dilworth remaining, St Peters are looking good for a top 4 finish.

Nepia

Hastings BHS 32 v New Plymouth BHS 3

Wurzel

Highlights of MAGS' big win over Sacred Herat, plus all the other 1A matches:

That MAGS mob are big enough to play Under 20s.

Bovidae

A mid-term update on 1st XV rugby in each of the regions.
 
<a data-ipb='nomediaparse' href='http://absnz.org.nz/rugby-mid-term-report/'>http://absnz.org.nz/rugby-mid-term-report/</a>

mariner4life

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A mid-term update on 1st XV rugby in each of the regions.
 
<a data-ipb='nomediaparse' href='http://absnz.org.nz/rugby-mid-term-report/'>http://absnz.org.nz/rugby-mid-term-report/</a>
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I'm assuming it was just a typo that Otumoetai College wasn't mentioned among the sides vying for the Chiefs title

Stargazer

The Hurricanes U18 team to play the Crusaders U18 this Saturday (Rugby Park, Christchurch, 2pm)
 
1. NUMIA Xavier - St Patrick's College
2. DEVERY Jacob - Hastings Boys High
3. FARRELL Tim - Napier Boys High
4. AH KUOI Naitoa - Wellington College
5. BAUCKHAM Liam - Hastings Boys High
6. RUAWAI - Matene - PNBHS
7. TIPOKI Naera - Gisborne Boys High
8. IOSE Brayden - PNBHS
9. PRICE Carlos - St Kentigern
10. MCCLUTCHIE Lincoln - Hastings Boys
11. DAWAI Mosese - Feilding High School
12. TO'O Denny - Rongotai College
13. PLUMTREE Reece - Wellington College
14. KOROI Vilimoni - Feilding High School
15. GARDEN-BACHOP Connor - Scots College
 
16. TE PUNI - Te Ariki - PNBHS
17. KERERU-SYMES Keanu - Hastings Boys High
18. MATENGA Sam - Gisborne Boys High 
19. CIRIKIDAVETA Te Ahiwaru - St Kentigern
20. TREMAIN Will - Napier Boys High
21. SWORD Regan - Marist St Pat's
22. TUFUGA Ueta - Massey University
23. TOALA Danny - Hastings Boys High
 
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Representing 10 different schools, 7 of the players are from Wellington, 7 from Hawkes Bay, 6 from Manawatu, 2 from Poverty Bay, and 1 from East Coast. Four players who do not currently attend secondary school in the region qualify under the teamâ€s eligibility criteria based on their age and Provincial Union affiliation.
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More: <a data-ipb='nomediaparse' href='http://www.collegesportmedia.co.nz/rugby-union/hurricanes-name-strong-u18-team-to-play-crusaders'>http://www.collegesportmedia.co.nz/rugby-union/hurricanes-name-strong-u18-team-to-play-crusaders</a>

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