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  • kiwi_expatK kiwi_expat

    https://www.1news.co.nz/2023/02/15/jordie-barrett-on-move-to-12-at-canes-im-trying-to-evolve-game/

    "fozzie indicated he enjoyed me playing there so I suppose the rest is up to me and put myself into that position every week."

    The same coach who prior to the forced switch wasn't convinced by the proposition of Jordie at 12.

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    @kiwi_expat said in Hurricanes 2023:

    https://www.1news.co.nz/2023/02/15/jordie-barrett-on-move-to-12-at-canes-im-trying-to-evolve-game/

    "fozzie indicated he enjoyed me playing there so I suppose the rest is up to me and put myself into that position every week."

    The same coach who prior to the forced switch wasn't convinced by the proposition of Jordie at 12.

    Yawn.
    His Canes coach wasn't exactly pushing the option hard either and when Foster made those comments Jordie was still finding his feet.

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    • WingerW Winger

      @Canes4life
      Priñsep was his starter when fit so guess he rates him so will mention him. But hope someone else steps up at 6.

      Is delany injured

      I expect to see priñsep starting in the first game along with Blackwell. It won't change until Holland leaves. And even with a new coach if Gibbes remains it still might not. Unless it's prinsep last year

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      @Winger said in Hurricanes 2023:

      Priñsep

      Olé

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      • CrucialC Crucial

        @kiwi_expat said in Hurricanes 2023:

        https://www.1news.co.nz/2023/02/15/jordie-barrett-on-move-to-12-at-canes-im-trying-to-evolve-game/

        "fozzie indicated he enjoyed me playing there so I suppose the rest is up to me and put myself into that position every week."

        The same coach who prior to the forced switch wasn't convinced by the proposition of Jordie at 12.

        Yawn.
        His Canes coach wasn't exactly pushing the option hard either and when Foster made those comments Jordie was still finding his feet.

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        @Crucial said in Hurricanes 2023:

        @kiwi_expat said in Hurricanes 2023:

        https://www.1news.co.nz/2023/02/15/jordie-barrett-on-move-to-12-at-canes-im-trying-to-evolve-game/

        "fozzie indicated he enjoyed me playing there so I suppose the rest is up to me and put myself into that position every week."

        The same coach who prior to the forced switch wasn't convinced by the proposition of Jordie at 12.

        Yawn.
        His Canes coach wasn't exactly pushing the option hard either and when Foster made those comments Jordie was still finding his feet.

        Yep funny isn't it, remember how coaches have been slated for moving 15s to centre over the years? All the ones who 'knew' it would never work are probably the same ones who 'knew' 12 was JBs position!

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          @Crucial said in Hurricanes 2023:

          @kiwi_expat said in Hurricanes 2023:

          https://www.1news.co.nz/2023/02/15/jordie-barrett-on-move-to-12-at-canes-im-trying-to-evolve-game/

          "fozzie indicated he enjoyed me playing there so I suppose the rest is up to me and put myself into that position every week."

          The same coach who prior to the forced switch wasn't convinced by the proposition of Jordie at 12.

          Yawn.
          His Canes coach wasn't exactly pushing the option hard either and when Foster made those comments Jordie was still finding his feet.

          Yep funny isn't it, remember how coaches have been slated for moving 15s to centre over the years? All the ones who 'knew' it would never work are probably the same ones who 'knew' 12 was JBs position!

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          @Dan54 said in Hurricanes 2023:

          @Crucial said in Hurricanes 2023:

          @kiwi_expat said in Hurricanes 2023:

          https://www.1news.co.nz/2023/02/15/jordie-barrett-on-move-to-12-at-canes-im-trying-to-evolve-game/

          "fozzie indicated he enjoyed me playing there so I suppose the rest is up to me and put myself into that position every week."

          The same coach who prior to the forced switch wasn't convinced by the proposition of Jordie at 12.

          Yawn.
          His Canes coach wasn't exactly pushing the option hard either and when Foster made those comments Jordie was still finding his feet.

          Yep funny isn't it, remember how coaches have been slated for moving 15s to centre over the years? All the ones who 'knew' it would never work are probably the same ones who 'knew' 12 was JBs position!

          It's a little different with Jordie though because he actually started out as predominantly a 12 for school, NZ under 20s and Canterbury in that first year, and then made the shift to fullback. It's not like he's been a 15 all his career and suddenly wants to move to the midfield. Scott Roberston even said back at the beginning of Jordie's career that he wanted to sign him as a 12 for the Crusaders.

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          • Canes4lifeC Canes4life

            @Dan54 said in Hurricanes 2023:

            @Crucial said in Hurricanes 2023:

            @kiwi_expat said in Hurricanes 2023:

            https://www.1news.co.nz/2023/02/15/jordie-barrett-on-move-to-12-at-canes-im-trying-to-evolve-game/

            "fozzie indicated he enjoyed me playing there so I suppose the rest is up to me and put myself into that position every week."

            The same coach who prior to the forced switch wasn't convinced by the proposition of Jordie at 12.

            Yawn.
            His Canes coach wasn't exactly pushing the option hard either and when Foster made those comments Jordie was still finding his feet.

            Yep funny isn't it, remember how coaches have been slated for moving 15s to centre over the years? All the ones who 'knew' it would never work are probably the same ones who 'knew' 12 was JBs position!

            It's a little different with Jordie though because he actually started out as predominantly a 12 for school, NZ under 20s and Canterbury in that first year, and then made the shift to fullback. It's not like he's been a 15 all his career and suddenly wants to move to the midfield. Scott Roberston even said back at the beginning of Jordie's career that he wanted to sign him as a 12 for the Crusaders.

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            @Canes4life said in Hurricanes 2023:

            @Dan54 said in Hurricanes 2023:

            @Crucial said in Hurricanes 2023:

            @kiwi_expat said in Hurricanes 2023:

            https://www.1news.co.nz/2023/02/15/jordie-barrett-on-move-to-12-at-canes-im-trying-to-evolve-game/

            "fozzie indicated he enjoyed me playing there so I suppose the rest is up to me and put myself into that position every week."

            The same coach who prior to the forced switch wasn't convinced by the proposition of Jordie at 12.

            Yawn.
            His Canes coach wasn't exactly pushing the option hard either and when Foster made those comments Jordie was still finding his feet.

            Yep funny isn't it, remember how coaches have been slated for moving 15s to centre over the years? All the ones who 'knew' it would never work are probably the same ones who 'knew' 12 was JBs position!

            It's a little different with Jordie though because he actually started out as predominantly a 12 for school, NZ under 20s and Canterbury in that first year, and then made the shift to fullback. It's not like he's been a 15 all his career and suddenly wants to move to the midfield. Scott Roberston even said back at the beginning of Jordie's career that he wanted to sign him as a 12 for the Crusaders.

            I think the same argument applies to many other players. Positions at school or club level are often not where you are best employed at higher levels.
            I just get tired of people trying to use this as evidence of Foster being incompetent. If you look at it without bias the story was that Foster openly questioned why he would want to move his best back from the previous year to a different position. That’s a fair call IMO. He was also still committed to some other options at 12 in his plans and had to play that out. RTS hasn’t worked out (for whatever reasons) but you don’t select the guy then throw the option away without trying it just because your best fullback has played a handful of average (albeit with signs) games at 12.
            Give Foster credit that he admits that his initial assessment of the situation was forced to change. He doesn’t hide from that.

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            • Canes4lifeC Canes4life

              @Winger said in Hurricanes 2023:

              @Canes4life
              Priñsep was his starter when fit so guess he rates him so will mention him. But hope someone else steps up at 6.

              Is delany injured

              I expect to see priñsep starting in the first game along with Blackwell. It won't change until Holland leaves. And even with a new coach if Gibbes remains it still might not. Unless it's prinsep last year

              Both Delany and Howden are better than Prinsep. Delany thoroughly outplayed Prinsep in the NPC final, plus I would also have Flanders shift to 6 before selecting Prinsep.

              You're right though, Prinsep seems like Holland's teachers pet. Hopefully they both move on at season's end.

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              @Canes4life said in Hurricanes 2023:

              @Winger said in Hurricanes 2023:

              @Canes4life
              Priñsep was his starter when fit so guess he rates him so will mention him. But hope someone else steps up at 6.

              Is delany injured

              I expect to see priñsep starting in the first game along with Blackwell. It won't change until Holland leaves. And even with a new coach if Gibbes remains it still might not. Unless it's prinsep last year

              Both Delany and Howden are better than Prinsep. Delany thoroughly outplayed Prinsep in the NPC final, plus I would also have Flanders shift to 6 before selecting Prinsep.

              You're right though, Prinsep seems like Holland's teachers pet. Hopefully they both move on at season's end.

              I was so happy when Prinsep got subbed on for Cant in the NPC final. Of course, he ends up spilling the ball.

              My favourite player when he's on the other team.

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              • Canes4lifeC Canes4life

                @Dan54 said in Hurricanes 2023:

                @Crucial said in Hurricanes 2023:

                @kiwi_expat said in Hurricanes 2023:

                https://www.1news.co.nz/2023/02/15/jordie-barrett-on-move-to-12-at-canes-im-trying-to-evolve-game/

                "fozzie indicated he enjoyed me playing there so I suppose the rest is up to me and put myself into that position every week."

                The same coach who prior to the forced switch wasn't convinced by the proposition of Jordie at 12.

                Yawn.
                His Canes coach wasn't exactly pushing the option hard either and when Foster made those comments Jordie was still finding his feet.

                Yep funny isn't it, remember how coaches have been slated for moving 15s to centre over the years? All the ones who 'knew' it would never work are probably the same ones who 'knew' 12 was JBs position!

                It's a little different with Jordie though because he actually started out as predominantly a 12 for school, NZ under 20s and Canterbury in that first year, and then made the shift to fullback. It's not like he's been a 15 all his career and suddenly wants to move to the midfield. Scott Roberston even said back at the beginning of Jordie's career that he wanted to sign him as a 12 for the Crusaders.

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                @Canes4life said in Hurricanes 2023:

                @Dan54 said in Hurricanes 2023:

                @Crucial said in Hurricanes 2023:

                @kiwi_expat said in Hurricanes 2023:

                https://www.1news.co.nz/2023/02/15/jordie-barrett-on-move-to-12-at-canes-im-trying-to-evolve-game/

                "fozzie indicated he enjoyed me playing there so I suppose the rest is up to me and put myself into that position every week."

                The same coach who prior to the forced switch wasn't convinced by the proposition of Jordie at 12.

                Yawn.
                His Canes coach wasn't exactly pushing the option hard either and when Foster made those comments Jordie was still finding his feet.

                Yep funny isn't it, remember how coaches have been slated for moving 15s to centre over the years? All the ones who 'knew' it would never work are probably the same ones who 'knew' 12 was JBs position!

                It's a little different with Jordie though because he actually started out as predominantly a 12 for school, NZ under 20s and Canterbury in that first year, and then made the shift to fullback. It's not like he's been a 15 all his career and suddenly wants to move to the midfield. Scott Roberston even said back at the beginning of Jordie's career that he wanted to sign him as a 12 for the Crusaders.

                Yep so did a certain Christian Cullen. He was a centre through school, club and when he first played rep rugby in the mighty Nua. Not saying anything right or wrong, just having a smile about it.

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                    @mikey07 There's a separate match thread for this game

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                      @mikey07 There's a separate match thread for this game

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                      @Winger Sweet thanks didn’t see it.

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                        Cool story on Caleb Delany, (similar to Devan Flanders) I'm hoping he has a big year in black and yellow.

                        https://www.msn.com/en-nz/sports/other/meet-the-rangatahi-hurricanes-lock-who-may-have-never-have-made-it-without-a-life-changing-opportunity/ar-AA17ydb6?ocid=entnewsntp&cvid=d377ccec15d7424b97c99fbba93d82be

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                          An update on Ruben Love and Brett Cameron

                          https://i.stuff.co.nz/sport/rugby/super-rugby/131267489/hurricanes-lose-key-playmakers-for-super-rugby-pacific-start

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                            An update on Ruben Love and Brett Cameron

                            https://i.stuff.co.nz/sport/rugby/super-rugby/131267489/hurricanes-lose-key-playmakers-for-super-rugby-pacific-start

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                            @Canes4life said in Hurricanes 2023:

                            An update on Ruben Love and Brett Cameron

                            https://i.stuff.co.nz/sport/rugby/super-rugby/131267489/hurricanes-lose-key-playmakers-for-super-rugby-pacific-start

                            The canes have a ready made one cap ABs ten in the squad!

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                              @Canes4life said in Hurricanes 2023:

                              An update on Ruben Love and Brett Cameron

                              https://i.stuff.co.nz/sport/rugby/super-rugby/131267489/hurricanes-lose-key-playmakers-for-super-rugby-pacific-start

                              The canes have a ready made one cap ABs ten in the squad!

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                              @Machpants said in Hurricanes 2023:

                              @Canes4life said in Hurricanes 2023:

                              An update on Ruben Love and Brett Cameron

                              https://i.stuff.co.nz/sport/rugby/super-rugby/131267489/hurricanes-lose-key-playmakers-for-super-rugby-pacific-start

                              The canes have a ready made one cap ABs ten in the squad!

                              Who's injured. 🙂

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                                @Machpants said in Hurricanes 2023:

                                @Canes4life said in Hurricanes 2023:

                                An update on Ruben Love and Brett Cameron

                                https://i.stuff.co.nz/sport/rugby/super-rugby/131267489/hurricanes-lose-key-playmakers-for-super-rugby-pacific-start

                                The canes have a ready made one cap ABs ten in the squad!

                                Who's injured. 🙂

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                                @Canes4life said in Hurricanes 2023:

                                @Machpants said in Hurricanes 2023:

                                @Canes4life said in Hurricanes 2023:

                                An update on Ruben Love and Brett Cameron

                                https://i.stuff.co.nz/sport/rugby/super-rugby/131267489/hurricanes-lose-key-playmakers-for-super-rugby-pacific-start

                                The canes have a ready made one cap ABs ten in the squad!

                                Who's injured. 🙂

                                No he's not, jordie 😉

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                                  @Canes4life said in Hurricanes 2023:

                                  @Machpants said in Hurricanes 2023:

                                  @Canes4life said in Hurricanes 2023:

                                  An update on Ruben Love and Brett Cameron

                                  https://i.stuff.co.nz/sport/rugby/super-rugby/131267489/hurricanes-lose-key-playmakers-for-super-rugby-pacific-start

                                  The canes have a ready made one cap ABs ten in the squad!

                                  Who's injured. 🙂

                                  No he's not, jordie 😉

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                                  @Machpants Jordie at 10 and Higgins at
                                  12 might be a good option later in the game. Esp if Morgan has an off game

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                                    @Machpants Jordie at 10 and Higgins at
                                    12 might be a good option later in the game. Esp if Morgan has an off game

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                                    @Winger Was going to suggest the same thing Winger, can see that happening.

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                                      Club Rugby article about Roigard:

                                      https://clubrugby.nz/wp/2023/02/22/roigard-revving-up-for-new-hurricanes-season/

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                                      • CrucialC Crucial

                                        @Canes4life said in Hurricanes 2023:

                                        @Dan54 said in Hurricanes 2023:

                                        @Crucial said in Hurricanes 2023:

                                        @kiwi_expat said in Hurricanes 2023:

                                        https://www.1news.co.nz/2023/02/15/jordie-barrett-on-move-to-12-at-canes-im-trying-to-evolve-game/

                                        "fozzie indicated he enjoyed me playing there so I suppose the rest is up to me and put myself into that position every week."

                                        The same coach who prior to the forced switch wasn't convinced by the proposition of Jordie at 12.

                                        Yawn.
                                        His Canes coach wasn't exactly pushing the option hard either and when Foster made those comments Jordie was still finding his feet.

                                        Yep funny isn't it, remember how coaches have been slated for moving 15s to centre over the years? All the ones who 'knew' it would never work are probably the same ones who 'knew' 12 was JBs position!

                                        It's a little different with Jordie though because he actually started out as predominantly a 12 for school, NZ under 20s and Canterbury in that first year, and then made the shift to fullback. It's not like he's been a 15 all his career and suddenly wants to move to the midfield. Scott Roberston even said back at the beginning of Jordie's career that he wanted to sign him as a 12 for the Crusaders.

                                        I think the same argument applies to many other players. Positions at school or club level are often not where you are best employed at higher levels.
                                        I just get tired of people trying to use this as evidence of Foster being incompetent. If you look at it without bias the story was that Foster openly questioned why he would want to move his best back from the previous year to a different position. That’s a fair call IMO. He was also still committed to some other options at 12 in his plans and had to play that out. RTS hasn’t worked out (for whatever reasons) but you don’t select the guy then throw the option away without trying it just because your best fullback has played a handful of average (albeit with signs) games at 12.
                                        Give Foster credit that he admits that his initial assessment of the situation was forced to change. He doesn’t hide from that.

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                                        @Crucial said in Hurricanes 2023:

                                        @Canes4life said in Hurricanes 2023:

                                        @Dan54 said in Hurricanes 2023:

                                        @Crucial said in Hurricanes 2023:

                                        @kiwi_expat said in Hurricanes 2023:

                                        https://www.1news.co.nz/2023/02/15/jordie-barrett-on-move-to-12-at-canes-im-trying-to-evolve-game/

                                        "fozzie indicated he enjoyed me playing there so I suppose the rest is up to me and put myself into that position every week."

                                        The same coach who prior to the forced switch wasn't convinced by the proposition of Jordie at 12.

                                        Yawn.
                                        His Canes coach wasn't exactly pushing the option hard either and when Foster made those comments Jordie was still finding his feet.

                                        Yep funny isn't it, remember how coaches have been slated for moving 15s to centre over the years? All the ones who 'knew' it would never work are probably the same ones who 'knew' 12 was JBs position!

                                        It's a little different with Jordie though because he actually started out as predominantly a 12 for school, NZ under 20s and Canterbury in that first year, and then made the shift to fullback. It's not like he's been a 15 all his career and suddenly wants to move to the midfield. Scott Roberston even said back at the beginning of Jordie's career that he wanted to sign him as a 12 for the Crusaders.

                                        I think the same argument applies to many other players. Positions at school or club level are often not where you are best employed at higher levels.
                                        I just get tired of people trying to use this as evidence of Foster being incompetent. If you look at it without bias the story was that Foster openly questioned why he would want to move his best back from the previous year to a different position.

                                        Didn't Foster send his "best back" to wing or did I imagine that?

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                                          Club Rugby article about Roigard:

                                          https://clubrugby.nz/wp/2023/02/22/roigard-revving-up-for-new-hurricanes-season/

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                                          @Stargazer said in Hurricanes 2023:

                                          Club Rugby article about Roigard:

                                          https://clubrugby.nz/wp/2023/02/22/roigard-revving-up-for-new-hurricanes-season/

                                          Massive future for Roigard.

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