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Chiefs 2023

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  • G george33

    @Crucial true but most squads have 2 or 3 experienced locks at most then some younger guys and blues have 2 big locks in reserve which will get game time I'd say

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    @george33 said in Chiefs 2023:

    @Crucial true but most squads have 2 or 3 experienced locks at most then some younger guys and blues have 2 big locks in reserve which will get game time I'd say

    I think you are missing the point that the Blues have only 3 locks in total. Suafoa (or any other big guy) are loosie/locks .
    Someone will now argue that Robinson is a lock/loosie

    Chiefs - 5 locks (3 ABs), 1 Lock/Loosie. All six experienced at lock in Super
    Canes - 3 locks, 2 Lock/Loosies. All 5 experienced at lock in Super
    Crusaders - 5 locks (2 ABs), 1 Lock/Loosie, 1 Loosie/Lock. 6 experienced at lock in Super

    I don't think a comment that the Blues are light in the lock department is far off the mark when you look at that.

    Blues - 3 locks (1 AB), 2 loosie/locks

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      @george33 said in Chiefs 2023:

      @Crucial true but most squads have 2 or 3 experienced locks at most then some younger guys and blues have 2 big locks in reserve which will get game time I'd say

      I think you are missing the point that the Blues have only 3 locks in total. Suafoa (or any other big guy) are loosie/locks .
      Someone will now argue that Robinson is a lock/loosie

      Chiefs - 5 locks (3 ABs), 1 Lock/Loosie. All six experienced at lock in Super
      Canes - 3 locks, 2 Lock/Loosies. All 5 experienced at lock in Super
      Crusaders - 5 locks (2 ABs), 1 Lock/Loosie, 1 Loosie/Lock. 6 experienced at lock in Super

      I don't think a comment that the Blues are light in the lock department is far off the mark when you look at that.

      Blues - 3 locks (1 AB), 2 loosie/locks

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      @Crucial yes true just think the blues will b ok at lock not sure of those chiefs locks sum r light on weight and not good at scrum time and think u got injuries to at lock but good conversation thanks

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        https://www.stuff.co.nz/sport/rugby/super-rugby/131279317/not-going-to-be-defined-by-if-i-made-the-all-blacks-alex-nankivell-on-munster-move

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          https://www.stuff.co.nz/sport/rugby/super-rugby/131238330/super-rugby-pacific-preview-can-damian-mckenzie-magic-break-chiefs-drought

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            https://www.stuff.co.nz/sport/rugby/super-rugby/131238330/super-rugby-pacific-preview-can-damian-mckenzie-magic-break-chiefs-drought

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            @Crucial said in Chiefs 2023:

            https://www.stuff.co.nz/sport/rugby/super-rugby/131238330/super-rugby-pacific-preview-can-damian-mckenzie-magic-break-chiefs-drought

            I hope so. I think the only team who might beat the Crusaders to the title is a full strength Chiefs. With DMac in top form.

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            • Dan54D Dan54

              @mariner4life said in Chiefs 2023:

              that photo...

              this is supposed to be a professional organisation right? look at that photo. That's park football right there.

              You do know that rugby is usually played and trained on parks in NZ don't ya Mariner??:winking_face:
              It's preseason, man I went to a Reds preseason training a few years back, and when I saw everyone in daggy shorts and singlets kind of made me realise yeah it's preseason etc.

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              @Dan54 said in Chiefs 2023:

              @mariner4life said in Chiefs 2023:

              that photo...

              this is supposed to be a professional organisation right? look at that photo. That's park football right there.

              You do know that rugby is usually played and trained on parks in NZ don't ya Mariner??:winking_face:
              It's preseason, man I went to a Reds preseason training a few years back, and when I saw everyone in daggy shorts and singlets kind of made me realise yeah it's preseason etc.

              He's been in QLD too long, has forgotten what real grass looks like 🙂

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              • Crazy HorseC Crazy Horse

                @kiwi_expat said in Chiefs 2023:

                @Bovidae said in Chiefs 2023:

                @Crucial Let's see who plays where next week. I see the selections at 10 and 15 about giving those players 40 mins. At least Stevenson starts at fullback in the 2nd half.

                God I hope you're right because McKenzie has all attributes to be the best 10 in NZ, cautiously awaiting a Dmac Jordie 10-12 axis for 2024. Sullivan or Love should cover 10 off the bench unless Mo'unga returns for the 2027 event, then it'll be anyone's guess..

                I am as keen as anyone to see Sullivan at 10 because I suspect he may be pretty useful there, but to say he should be bench cover at 10 for the ABs next year is big call. We don't actually know if he is any good at 10 or not.

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                @Crazy-Horse said in Chiefs 2023:

                @kiwi_expat said in Chiefs 2023:

                @Bovidae said in Chiefs 2023:

                @Crucial Let's see who plays where next week. I see the selections at 10 and 15 about giving those players 40 mins. At least Stevenson starts at fullback in the 2nd half.

                God I hope you're right because McKenzie has all attributes to be the best 10 in NZ, cautiously awaiting a Dmac Jordie 10-12 axis for 2024. Sullivan or Love should cover 10 off the bench unless Mo'unga returns for the 2027 event, then it'll be anyone's guess..

                I am as keen as anyone to see Sullivan at 10 because I suspect he may be pretty useful there, but to say he should be bench cover at 10 for the ABs next year is big call. We don't actually know if he is any good at 10 or not.

                Next year could be a big space at AB 10!

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                • WingerW Winger

                  @Crucial said in Chiefs 2023:

                  https://www.stuff.co.nz/sport/rugby/super-rugby/131238330/super-rugby-pacific-preview-can-damian-mckenzie-magic-break-chiefs-drought

                  I hope so. I think the only team who might beat the Crusaders to the title is a full strength Chiefs. With DMac in top form.

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                  @Winger said in Chiefs 2023:

                  @Crucial said in Chiefs 2023:

                  https://www.stuff.co.nz/sport/rugby/super-rugby/131238330/super-rugby-pacific-preview-can-damian-mckenzie-magic-break-chiefs-drought

                  I hope so. I think the only team who might beat the Crusaders to the title is a full strength Chiefs. With DMac in top form.

                  Compared directly to Crusaders our forwards should at least be able to hold their own and our backs have the potential to be much better.
                  Injuries, form, coaching and strategies will then take the driving seat.

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                    Posted here as well.

                    https://www.chiefs.co.nz/news-item/chiefs-u20-squad-to-play-development-xv

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                      The Chiefs Development-Chiefs U20s game really was men against boys. You forget about the size difference between 18/19 yr olds and fully professional players with a few more years of S&C behind them. The Dev team dominated physically - at the breakdown, in the tackle and in the scrum.

                      For the Chiefs, McWhannell continues to impress and made plenty of metres as a midfield runner. The midfield combo of Rona and Tuhakaraina also looked good. TTT came back on the field for the last quarter on the wing and scored the final try.

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                        TKB was at Chiefs training. The Top 14 is in season so maybe he is injured?

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                        • BovidaeB Bovidae

                          TKB was at Chiefs training. The Top 14 is in season so maybe he is injured?

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                          @Bovidae TKB? Thought he was touted as a possible Wallaby.

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                            @Bovidae TKB? Thought he was touted as a possible Wallaby.

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                            @SBW1 said in Chiefs 2023:

                            @Bovidae TKB? Thought he was touted as a possible Wallaby.

                            Probably just catching up with some former teammates. I doubt he is interested in playing for the Wallabies now that Rennie has been sacked.

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                              @SBW1 said in Chiefs 2023:

                              @Bovidae TKB? Thought he was touted as a possible Wallaby.

                              Probably just catching up with some former teammates. I doubt he is interested in playing for the Wallabies now that Rennie has been sacked.

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                              @Bovidae Certainly would appear that way otherwise he would have been with one of the Aussie teams. Wonder when Rennie makes an appearance back in NZ rugby circles.

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                              • BovidaeB Bovidae

                                TKB was at Chiefs training. The Top 14 is in season so maybe he is injured?

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                                @Bovidae said in Chiefs 2023:

                                TKB was at Chiefs training. The Top 14 is in season so maybe he is injured?

                                No, he just got some time off for a holiday in NZ. He'll only miss two games.

                                https://twitter.com/Bleu_Rochelle/status/1628749632141393922


                                Who knows, maybe talking to the Chiefs/NZR for a return to NZ? I don't know when his contract with La Rochelle expires.

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                                  Chiefs’ top 5 points-scorers

                                  Damian McKenzie: 887 (96 matches)

                                  Stephen Donald: 886 (105)

                                  Aaron Cruden: 721 (100)

                                  Glen Jackson: 481 (60)

                                  David Hill: 389 (58)

                                  Chiefs’ top 5 try-scorers

                                  Sitiveni Sivivatu: 42 (89)

                                  Lelia Masaga: 38 (91)

                                  Roger Randle: 32 (59)

                                  Liam Messam: 31 (183)

                                  Damian McKenzie: 30 (96)

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                                    Those stats seem to disagree with the hungus tag attached to Masaga.
                                    😝

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                                      @Bovidae said in Chiefs 2023:

                                      TKB was at Chiefs training. The Top 14 is in season so maybe he is injured?

                                      No, he just got some time off for a holiday in NZ. He'll only miss two games.

                                      https://twitter.com/Bleu_Rochelle/status/1628749632141393922


                                      Who knows, maybe talking to the Chiefs/NZR for a return to NZ? I don't know when his contract with La Rochelle expires.

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                                      @Stargazer
                                      With Weber leaving after the RWC, TKB could bring his experience to the youngsters (Ratima, Roe).

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                                      • CrucialC Crucial

                                        Those stats seem to disagree with the hungus tag attached to Masaga.
                                        😝

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                                        @Crucial said in Chiefs 2023:

                                        Those stats seem to disagree with the hungus tag attached to Masaga.
                                        😝

                                        Only if you have a very narrow definition of hungus!

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                                          @Stargazer
                                          With Weber leaving after the RWC, TKB could bring his experience to the youngsters (Ratima, Roe).

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                                          @cgrant That would be a pretty good outcome, however it does seem strange that he was being seriously courted by Rennie and the Wallabies. Wonder if it is a clue that Rennie could also be headed the Chiefs way.

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