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  • ACT CrusaderA Offline
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    Slow starters and all that….

    But there are some concerning signs, halfback play in particular. Whilst he wasn’t rated highly on here, but Bryn Hall has been excellent for us over the past couple of years and we missed him last night. I don’t have a lot of confidence in those two that played.

    Other than Grace (before he went off) and Blackadder, we lacked pace from our forwards.

    10-15 was a bit up and and down. I think we have a good mix of pieces there but we need some leadership out there.

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    @ACT-Crusader said in Crusaders v Chiefs:

    Slow starters and all that….

    But there are some concerning signs, halfback play in particular. Whilst he wasn’t rated highly on here, but Bryn Hall has been excellent for us over the past couple of years and we missed him last night. I don’t have a lot of confidence in those two that played.

    Other than Grace (before he went off) and Blackadder, we lacked pace from our forwards.

    10-15 was a bit up and and down. I think we have a good mix of pieces there but we need some leadership out there.

    Agree about the HB with the game speeding up Heinz at 36 got exposed to slow and Drummond was ponderous .
    Maybe we need to bite the bullet and throw Hotham in to the deep end,he adds a extra running threat as well.

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    https://www.stuff.co.nz/sport/rugby/super-rugby/300816066/weve-got-to-keep-our-feet-grounded-chiefs-coach-tempers-big-win-over-crusaders

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    What was the story with Taylor? They missed him when he went off too.

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    I'm finally getting around to reading this thread.

    @taniwharugby said in Crusaders v Chiefs:

    So who is the Chiefs defence coach?

    Good question. I think David Hill has taken over that role.

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    @Tim said in Crusaders v Chiefs:

    Has Ratima bulked up a bit?

    I think so, but he looked bigger pre-NPC last year too.

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    A couple of brief comments:

    (1) Great to see Stevenson at fullback, even if it is 12 months too late.
    (2) The Chiefs did well enough with two WTG wingers playing. Hopefully whatever forced ENS to be a late withdrawal isn't too serious. It looked like Malimali was in Chch but not trusted to start yet.

    I am expecting some rotation for the MP game this weekend.

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    @Bovidae they mentioned something about a hamstring with ENS but only precautionary.

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    Just saw an insta post from ALB. 3-4 weeks for the ankle.

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    @Crucial said in Crusaders v Chiefs:

    Just saw an insta post from ALB. 3-4 weeks for the ankle.

    Poihipi to come in at 2nd 5. Maybe Rona gets a chance on the bench.

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    @Bovidae said in Crusaders v Chiefs:

    @Crucial said in Crusaders v Chiefs:

    Just saw an insta post from ALB. 3-4 weeks for the ankle.

    Poihipi to come in at 2nd 5. Maybe Rona gets a chance on the bench.

    Might Josh Ioane cover 12?

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    @ARHS said in Crusaders v Chiefs:

    Might Josh Ioane cover 12?

    I'm sure he will, but it's centre cover that would be a problem. Poihipi was used there in Pukekohe.

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    Wrampling?

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    @Crucial said in Crusaders v Chiefs:

    Wrampling?

    Hoping to be back in about a month.

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    I know it's a contact sport but gee the injury wards for each super team seem to get bigger and bigger. Of course no evidence to prove that but I would be interested to see the number of games missed via injury by year. If you total all the players who are injured it must be a lot.

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    @chimoaus I won't be surprised if speeding up the game under these new law application guidelines contributes to an increase in injuries.

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    What a game from Weber, biggest difference maker by far. He especially looks to have worked really hard on his distribution, what a difference from last year.

    Retallick and Stephenson honourable mentions in the difference making stakes.

    Glad the Chiefs won, BOK seemed to only be reffing one side a lot of the game. Cane gets yellow carded for being offside and innocuously picking up a ball that bobbled towards him - cut to a crusader deliberately going off his feet at a ruck 5 metres out from his own line and then playing the ball from offside on the ground... just a penalty. The 50-22 from Dmac not even discussed (it was passed back twice but didn't think it was that evident that they wouldn't even check). The crusaders spending the first 40 consistently with a guy lying on the chiefs side at what seemed like every ruck, only the chiefs getting penalised for it (think cru finally got pinged once at like 65 mins or something). Not surprised to see another season of it but great to see a team absolutely dominate in spite of it.

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    @Stargazer said in Crusaders v Chiefs:

    @chimoaus I won't be surprised if speeding up the game under these new law application guidelines contributes to an increase in injuries.

    Yeah the not often raised flip side of trying to get rid of the bigger and slower game is more tired players and bodies, fatigued and making mistakes on both sides of the collision.

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    @Stargazer said in Crusaders v Chiefs:

    @chimoaus I won't be surprised if speeding up the game under these new law application guidelines contributes to an increase in injuries.

    ... Or player sizes getting smaller of course, and impacts dropping. We will have to see, but injuries in the pro game do seem to be getting worse each year

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