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@booboo yeah, I've mentioned that in the past though I didn't know the terminology for it! But it's pretty obvious a lot of the MtF stuff is based around sexual fetishes. Same with drag queens etc, it seems self evident given how hyper sexualised so much of it is.
I understand a lot of FtM stuff (which is actually more common, though you wouldn't know it) is due to teenage girls being susceptible to it as many of them experience a strong dislike of their bodies as they go through puberty, and if you throw in some gender atypical interests then you can see how some go down that rabbit hole.
I just shake my head in disbelief that so many people just go along with the T part of the movement, it's based on absolute pseudo-science.
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@No-Quarter said in Trans in sport / Laurel Hubbard:
@booboo yeah, I've mentioned that in the past though I didn't know the terminology for it! But it's pretty obvious a lot of the MtF stuff is based around sexual fetishes. Same with drag queens etc, it seems self evident given how hyper sexualised so much of it is.
I understand a lot of FtM stuff (which is actually more common, though you wouldn't know it) is due to teenage girls being susceptible to it as many of them experience a strong dislike of their bodies as they go through puberty, and if you throw in some gender atypical interests then you can see how some go down that rabbit hole.
I just shake my head in disbelief that so many people just go along with the T part of the movement, it's based on absolute pseudo-science.
You might be thinking of autogynophiles , they are the creeps that fetishise being a woman along with womens bodily functions and aren't the sort of people you want your daughter sharing a changing room with .
Is it that many people that go along with it though? Outside of social media particularly tumblr and twitter I doubt that many people are that accepting of troons.
So many people involved in the trans movement are malignant narcissists that hide their awfulness behind their victim status. I'm not sure if Trans Armstrong aka Veronica Ivy the Canadian cyclist has been covered here but he's classc example ` a revolting incredibly online creep whos done a great job of torching his career and support with his tweets and awful behaviour.
I think we are seeing the beginning of the end of transing kids, Sweden that was ahead of other countries in sterilising and mutilating children is rolling things back as is the Uk..The fallout from this is going to make a lot of lawyers very rich.
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@paremata said in Trans in sport / Laurel Hubbard:
@No-Quarter said in Trans in sport / Laurel Hubbard:
@booboo yeah, I've mentioned that in the past though I didn't know the terminology for it! But it's pretty obvious a lot of the MtF stuff is based around sexual fetishes. Same with drag queens etc, it seems self evident given how hyper sexualised so much of it is.
I understand a lot of FtM stuff (which is actually more common, though you wouldn't know it) is due to teenage girls being susceptible to it as many of them experience a strong dislike of their bodies as they go through puberty, and if you throw in some gender atypical interests then you can see how some go down that rabbit hole.
I just shake my head in disbelief that so many people just go along with the T part of the movement, it's based on absolute pseudo-science.
You might be thinking of autogynophiles , they are the creeps that fetishise being a woman along with womens bodily functions and aren't the sort of people you want your daughter sharing a changing room with .
We live in weird times. There's also a whole fetish thing about men wanting to be lesbian which, from what I have read, is a bit different from autogynophilia in that it is more about identifying with feminine characteristics rather than pretending to be trapped in a man's body. Pretty harmless apparently.
I think we are seeing the beginning of the end of transing kids, Sweden that was ahead of other countries in sterilising and mutilating children is rolling things back as is the Uk..The fallout from this is going to make a lot of lawyers very rich.
In the UK it's been very much down to a few trans lobby groups who have infiltrated business, medical profession and government agencies and have a band of very active and (until now) successful advocates of what is nothing more than pseudoscientific quackery. Fuck knows what their motivation is/was, but I suspect a mix of money-making from running "Inclusiveness Training", a sense of power and self-righteousness and unbelievable medical negligence from the crap nationalised Health Service who happily fell for this garbage.
The lawyers will get the victims a good settlement, but the real culprits will walk away with the money still in their pockets
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@Victor-Meldrew said in Trans in sport / Laurel Hubbard:
@paremata said in Trans in sport / Laurel Hubbard:
@No-Quarter said in Trans in sport / Laurel Hubbard:
@booboo yeah, I've mentioned that in the past though I didn't know the terminology for it! But it's pretty obvious a lot of the MtF stuff is based around sexual fetishes. Same with drag queens etc, it seems self evident given how hyper sexualised so much of it is.
I understand a lot of FtM stuff (which is actually more common, though you wouldn't know it) is due to teenage girls being susceptible to it as many of them experience a strong dislike of their bodies as they go through puberty, and if you throw in some gender atypical interests then you can see how some go down that rabbit hole.
I just shake my head in disbelief that so many people just go along with the T part of the movement, it's based on absolute pseudo-science.
You might be thinking of autogynophiles , they are the creeps that fetishise being a woman along with womens bodily functions and aren't the sort of people you want your daughter sharing a changing room with .
We live in weird times. There's also a whole fetish thing about men wanting to be lesbian which, from what I have read, is a bit different from autogynophilia in that it is more about identifying with feminine characteristics rather than pretending to be trapped in a man's body. Pretty harmless apparently.
I think we are seeing the beginning of the end of transing kids, Sweden that was ahead of other countries in sterilising and mutilating children is rolling things back as is the Uk..The fallout from this is going to make a lot of lawyers very rich.
In the UK it's been very much down to a few trans lobby groups who have infiltrated business, medical profession and government agencies and have a band of very active and (until now) successful advocates of what is nothing more than pseudoscientific quackery. Fuck knows what their motivation is/was, but I suspect a mix of money-making from running "Inclusiveness Training", a sense of power and self-righteousness and unbelievable medical negligence from the crap nationalised Health Service who happily fell for this garbage.
The lawyers will get the victims a good settlement, but the real culprits will walk away with the money still in their pockets
Mermaids UK looks like it's pretty much done now after their lawsuit against the LGB alliance . Even the BBC feels safe calling out the evil shitwitch who transitioned her son in Thailand because she didn't have a daughter whos life she could ruin. One of the main people in it was videod speaking at a pro pedophilia organisation conference as well.
The safeguarding around handing out hormones to kids and surgery seems pretty lacking too. I expect some spectacular lawsuits to go come out of the states. Bari Weiss newsite just published this from a whistleblower at a youth trans clinic, warning you'll need a strong stomach to get through this
I Thought I Was Saving Trans Kids. Now I’m Blowing the Whistle.
There are more than 100 pediatric gender clinics across the U.S. I worked at one. What’s happening to children is morally and medically appalling.
I'm hoping this creature gets sued into oblivion, she advertises on Tik Tok as "dr teetus deleteus " and tells girls she can "yeet their teets" . She's done double mastecomies on girls as young as 13 .
Wielding the Sidhbh
A look at the life and work of top surgery’s self-described ‘tit wizard’ doctor Sidhbh Gallagher…
Her she is posing with a sad face on tik tok because she'll only get to perform 4 mastectomies ........ sorry desperately needed live saving surgeries in a week,
Like I said earlier, 15-20 years from now we will look back on this the same way we look at ice pick lobotomies .
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@paremata said in Trans in sport / Laurel Hubbard:
That "tit-wizard" bitch. Fuck - it's too easy to make some bullshit joke about how she's evil (coz tits).
But... she is either fucked up with self-hate, or preying on teenage-girl-hormonal-self-hate... and yeah, fucking evil.
Stop her.
Then decide whether to help her, and/or lock her up.
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That's pretty awful and you can't help think money's a big motivator here.
Similarly, I think there's a risk of unscrupulous buck-chasing sports agents/promoters spotting gender-confused kids with sports potential and effectively grooming them to go transsexual, compete unfairly in women's sports and line said agents pockets.
If East Germany effectively fucked-up a whole generation of athletes for a few, now long-forgotten medals, imagine what some sports promoters would do for megabucks in management fees.
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@Kruse said in Trans in sport / Laurel Hubbard:
@paremata said in Trans in sport / Laurel Hubbard:
That "tit-wizard" bitch. Fuck - it's too easy to make some bullshit joke about how she's evil (coz tits).
But... she is either fucked up with self-hate, or preying on teenage-girl-hormonal-self-hate... and yeah, fucking evil.
Stop her.
Then decide whether to help her, and/or lock her up.
That is fucked up, either way.I’m sure there’s some sort of insurance angle involved and she’s making money along with her Transhausens by proxy fetish .
It’s weird to be observing this and seeing the excesses go largely unchecked in the media while most people outside of the trans/media/social media think this is insane and are being ignored.
I posted this on another thread but this person should never have been allowed to transition. When she was a journalist in Haiti she was traumatised by her interactions with a rape victim so she decided that the best way to treat her ptsd was to get a friend to rape her which she then wrote an article about . It wasn’t as well received as she was expecting.
Anyway a decade later the doctors who performed surgery on her decided that despite her past she was mentally sound enough to have top and bottom surgery . Oh, btw they let her keep the taco while they added the hot dog so she has two sets of genitals .
The magazine that printed this thought they would be praised for it but it was as well received as her story about making her friend rape her .It must have been like this being a spectator to the eugenics fad in the 1920s or the icepick lobotomy as “ therapy “ or the satanic panic in the 1980s and thinking the world had lost its mind .
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@paremata said in Trans in sport / Laurel Hubbard:
@Victor-Meldrew said in Trans in sport / Laurel Hubbard:
@paremata said in Trans in sport / Laurel Hubbard:
@No-Quarter said in Trans in sport / Laurel Hubbard:
@booboo yeah, I've mentioned that in the past though I didn't know the terminology for it! But it's pretty obvious a lot of the MtF stuff is based around sexual fetishes. Same with drag queens etc, it seems self evident given how hyper sexualised so much of it is.
I understand a lot of FtM stuff (which is actually more common, though you wouldn't know it) is due to teenage girls being susceptible to it as many of them experience a strong dislike of their bodies as they go through puberty, and if you throw in some gender atypical interests then you can see how some go down that rabbit hole.
I just shake my head in disbelief that so many people just go along with the T part of the movement, it's based on absolute pseudo-science.
You might be thinking of autogynophiles , they are the creeps that fetishise being a woman along with womens bodily functions and aren't the sort of people you want your daughter sharing a changing room with .
We live in weird times. There's also a whole fetish thing about men wanting to be lesbian which, from what I have read, is a bit different from autogynophilia in that it is more about identifying with feminine characteristics rather than pretending to be trapped in a man's body. Pretty harmless apparently.
I think we are seeing the beginning of the end of transing kids, Sweden that was ahead of other countries in sterilising and mutilating children is rolling things back as is the Uk..The fallout from this is going to make a lot of lawyers very rich.
In the UK it's been very much down to a few trans lobby groups who have infiltrated business, medical profession and government agencies and have a band of very active and (until now) successful advocates of what is nothing more than pseudoscientific quackery. Fuck knows what their motivation is/was, but I suspect a mix of money-making from running "Inclusiveness Training", a sense of power and self-righteousness and unbelievable medical negligence from the crap nationalised Health Service who happily fell for this garbage.
The lawyers will get the victims a good settlement, but the real culprits will walk away with the money still in their pockets
Mermaids UK looks like it's pretty much done now after their lawsuit against the LGB alliance . Even the BBC feels safe calling out the evil shitwitch who trooned her son in Thailand because she didn't have a daughter whos life she could ruin. One of the main people in it was videod speaking at a pro pedophilia organisation conference as well.
The safeguarding around handing out hormones to kids and surgery seems pretty lacking too. I expect some spectacular lawsuits to go come out of the states. Bari Weiss newsite just published this from a whistleblower at a youth trans clinic, warning you'll need a strong stomach to get through this
I Thought I Was Saving Trans Kids. Now I’m Blowing the Whistle.
There are more than 100 pediatric gender clinics across the U.S. I worked at one. What’s happening to children is morally and medically appalling.
I'm hoping this creature gets sued into oblivion, she advertises on Tik Tok as "dr teetus deleteus " and tells girls she can "yeet their teets" . She's done double mastecomies on girls as young as 13 .
Wielding the Sidhbh
A look at the life and work of top surgery’s self-described ‘tit wizard’ doctor Sidhbh Gallagher…
Her she is posing with a sad face on tik tok because she'll only get to perform 4 mastectomies ........ sorry desperately needed live saving surgeries in a week,
Like I said earlier, 15-20 years from now we will look back on this the same way we look at ice pick lobotomies .
I couldn’t read the 2nd article, but I did read the first. Thanks for sharing. Hard to believe.
Tragic
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Amazing that 1news has disabled comments on this, and then have taken liberty to hide lots of very reasonable comments that were made before they disabled them.
Incredible the hold that transgender activists have over mainstream media.
Good to see some sanity prevailing from sporting bodies now though.
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@taniwharugby said in Trans in sport / Laurel Hubbard:
Thanks for posting. I sent this on to a a family member who runs a bit (marathon time of 2:32) and her brother is a top UK Ultra runner - and she enjoyed the article
She's def. concerned about transgender athletes, but said hat ironically Ultra Marathons are probably the one discipline where gender really doesn't matter. Runners like Camille Herron are pretty much equal to any male runner.
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This seems to be the place for transgender activism. (Might update the thread title to reflect a wider scope.)
Have kept a passing eye on Kelly-Jay Keen's visit to Aus and NZ this past week or so.
NZ has pretty much disgraced ourselves by allowing a violent mob to drum her out of the Country in fear for her life.
The reporting has all pretty much been how she's a homophobic Neo Nazi sympathiser who is trying to drum up violence against the poor marginalised trans community, and how it's good her brand of "hate" is being shut down.
She frames it as protecting women's rights (allowing self identifying men into change rooms, prisons & sports etc, the corruption of language and more).
Context: I agree with a lot of her positions, but I don't necessarily think she's very good at putting her point across in a debate.
To my mind her point that there is something sinister about the "Trans" supportoing "community" has been proved by this latest debacle.
Am really quite disgusted that NZ has shown such intolerance and hatred for ideas and that mob rule has won out.
Peace and love wins every time, as long as my violent crowd can intimidate you nto submission.
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Sounds a bit like the situation in Scotland with J K Rowling being called wore names than that and receiving death threats for wanting woman only spaces
She pretty much won the debate after Scottish Parliament passed a law allowing anyone to officially change gender and a serial rapist/sex offender self-identified as a woman to get sent to a women's jail. The sheer ludicrousness & stupidity of that pro-trans debate exploded on first exposure to reality.
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@Victor-Meldrew yeah, KJK is a Pom and part of the same general movement/groundswell
And am aware of Sturgeon's stupidity. I'm pretty sure her main goal was to try to engineer intervention by the UK government to stir up nationalist fervour, whilst appearing uber woke. Backfired somewhat.
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@booboo said in Transgender debate, in sport, in general:
Backfired somewhat.
Understatement. Good thing was it just highlighted the sheer stupidity of much of the pro-trans debate - hopefully that debate can now take place in a more mature way.
Edit: The "Prime Minister Chris Hipkins also weighed in, saying he condemned people who abused their right to freedom of speech to “create division” comment is a classic. As if lawfully expressing a view others disagree with is divisive.
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@booboo yeah, very shameful day for NZ allowing that to happen. The media are despicable as well, constantly framing her as an "anti transgender activist supported by neo-nazis". The media aren't beholden to the activists, they are the activists.
The optics of that are insane as well. A small group of women gathered to talk about women's rights, and they were attacked by a mob of mostly biological men, and the police did nothing to protect them. Just crazy.
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@Victor-Meldrew the pollies weighing in on this is just another issue of many I didn't mention in my initial rant.
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