EPL 2022 / 2023
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@Bovidae said in EPL 2022 / 2023:
In news that will shock nobody, Conte has left Spurs by mutual agreement.
That took a week longer than expected - he was probably making sure he got a massive pay-off before agreeing. So that's 10/20 clubs have a different manager from the start of the season and Moyes & Rogers are barely hanging on.
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Meanwhile in the only league that matters, Notts are 2nd favourites to gain automatic promotion.
But they are guaranteed to be in the top 2, it is ludicrous that they may have to go into the play-offs with teams 30 points behind them. Langstaff has 39 goals for Notts, no penalties.
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@MajorRage
Rodgers would have gone earlier if Leicester could afford it wouldn't he?
Some sympathy for Potter. Chelsea are a mess. Absolute scattergun approach to recruitment. Bloated squad roster, full of ego's and expensive journeymen. How do you keep them all happy or impose a style or system.
Wrong coach for that club. They're like Spurs. What Manager in their right mind would go near them - except for the money of course.
Boehly will want a 'name' to placate the fans but is more likely to get an ambitious younger Manager with something to prove.
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@MajorRage
Rodgers would have gone earlier if Leicester could afford it wouldn't he?
Some sympathy for Potter. Chelsea are a mess. Absolute scattergun approach to recruitment. Bloated squad roster, full of ego's and expensive journeymen. How do you keep them all happy or impose a style or system.
Wrong coach for that club. They're like Spurs. What Manager in their right mind would go near them - except for the money of course.
Boehly will want a 'name' to placate the fans but is more likely to get an ambitious younger Manager with something to prove.
@dogmeat said in EPL 2022 / 2023:
@MajorRage
Rodgers would have gone earlier if Leicester could afford it wouldn't he?
Some sympathy for Potter. Chelsea are a mess. Absolute scattergun approach to recruitment. Bloated squad roster, full of ego's and expensive journeymen. How do you keep them all happy or impose a style or system.
Wrong coach for that club. They're like Spurs. What Manager in their right mind would go near them - except for the money of course.
Boehly will want a 'name' to placate the fans but is more likely to get an ambitious younger Manager with something to prove.
Leicester are suffering a bit from mean reversion.
They've had a great run, but reality is that at some point, it's going to run out. Rogers had done a decent enough job, but they simply didn't have the cattle required to maintain the top half of the table. They aren't doing that bad, it's just that the relegation battle is unbelievably tight this year.
As for Potter, well it was inevitable unfortunately.
I watched the full Chelsea match yesterday and scoreboard aside, they completely dominated. they just lacked the tooth in front of goal & made some terrible defensive errors. But they lost 2-0. And it's just too many times.
We've spunked stupid money on players with no return. It can't go on.
No idea why anybody will take it on now. A mismatched expensive squad down on the confidence it takes to win games. Perhaps Pochettino, who I'd like to see, but I suspect he'll be back at Spurs. I think Boehly will go after somebody stupid like Zidane, who I think would be a terrible appointment
And as an outside chance, Rogers.
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@dogmeat said in EPL 2022 / 2023:
@MajorRage
Rodgers would have gone earlier if Leicester could afford it wouldn't he?
Some sympathy for Potter. Chelsea are a mess. Absolute scattergun approach to recruitment. Bloated squad roster, full of ego's and expensive journeymen. How do you keep them all happy or impose a style or system.
Wrong coach for that club. They're like Spurs. What Manager in their right mind would go near them - except for the money of course.
Boehly will want a 'name' to placate the fans but is more likely to get an ambitious younger Manager with something to prove.
Leicester are suffering a bit from mean reversion.
They've had a great run, but reality is that at some point, it's going to run out. Rogers had done a decent enough job, but they simply didn't have the cattle required to maintain the top half of the table. They aren't doing that bad, it's just that the relegation battle is unbelievably tight this year.
As for Potter, well it was inevitable unfortunately.
I watched the full Chelsea match yesterday and scoreboard aside, they completely dominated. they just lacked the tooth in front of goal & made some terrible defensive errors. But they lost 2-0. And it's just too many times.
We've spunked stupid money on players with no return. It can't go on.
No idea why anybody will take it on now. A mismatched expensive squad down on the confidence it takes to win games. Perhaps Pochettino, who I'd like to see, but I suspect he'll be back at Spurs. I think Boehly will go after somebody stupid like Zidane, who I think would be a terrible appointment
And as an outside chance, Rogers.
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@MajorRage said in EPL 2022 / 2023:
I think Boehly will go after somebody stupid like Zidane
or Nagelsmann
I don't think Zidane would go near it, but agree it would be a catastrophe - although very amusing for a Fulham fan.
de Zerbi?
@dogmeat said in EPL 2022 / 2023:
@MajorRage said in EPL 2022 / 2023:
I think Boehly will go after somebody stupid like Zidane
or Nagelsmann
I don't think Zidane would go near it, but agree it would be a catastrophe - although very amusing for a Fulham fan.
de Zerbi?
Nagelsmann is hotly tipped, but I know too little of him to garner an opinion.
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Not EPL, but Bayern MĂĽnchen go back to the top in the Bundesliga. This means Kingsley Coman has a chance to continue his incredible streak. Every season of his career as a senior pro, he's won the league title.
Now that's not that remarkable given Bayern's dominance in Germany and other examples in other leagues (must be a fair few guys who debuted for Celtic during their recent streak and who won up to 9 in a row to start their career for example). What makes his record kind of crazy is that he's done it in three different leagues - Ligue 1 (PSG), Serie a (Juventus) and the Bundesliga.
I thought that was a fun piece of trivia.
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As if Zidane would go near the Chelsea job haha.
Maybe Conte could return or as was mentioned, Pochettino?
No doubt clubs near the bottom will be lining up for Potter now. He's a decent manager, but Chelsea as a whole are an absolute mess from top to bottom right now.
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@dogmeat said in EPL 2022 / 2023:
@KiwiPie
Seen it now. All three reds to Fulham were warrantedSilva would be an even better Manager if he reined in the histrionics
Yes Fulham has a history with this ref. He had a shocker when we lost at West Ham and I reckon we should have had a pen in the first half at Old Trafford but those are no excuses for what happened
Instead of calming things down Silva ignited everything. A 10 man Fulham at 1-1 could still have gone through. Instead Silva basically egged on Mitros sense of injustice
How long might we lose him for? Months?
Good job we are clear of relegation dogfight as our season has been screwed by 90 seconds of madness
Well Bournemouth need all the luck they can get, so having some players missing for that match due to suspension suits me
Yes and you're well clear
@bayimports said in EPL 2022 / 2023:
@dogmeat said in EPL 2022 / 2023:
@KiwiPie
Seen it now. All three reds to Fulham were warrantedSilva would be an even better Manager if he reined in the histrionics
Yes Fulham has a history with this ref. He had a shocker when we lost at West Ham and I reckon we should have had a pen in the first half at Old Trafford but those are no excuses for what happened
Instead of calming things down Silva ignited everything. A 10 man Fulham at 1-1 could still have gone through. Instead Silva basically egged on Mitros sense of injustice
How long might we lose him for? Months?
Good job we are clear of relegation dogfight as our season has been screwed by 90 seconds of madness
Well Bournemouth need all the luck they can get, so having some players missing for that match due to suspension suits me
Yes and you're well clear
and looks like we took our luck. Fulham started stronger for sure, but we kicked into action when our subs came on. Nice to have Tav back from injury and immediate impact. Not sure if we win that if Fulham were full strength, but any points right now crucial.
Also big result for the Hammers last night, you would probably think Southampton first buried now although still cant be 100% sure. Picking the other two still too difficult. Even Palace holding 12th must still be nervous
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Palace Currently 12th - 30 points Safe
Leeds (A), Southampton (A), Everton (H), Wolves (A), West Ham (H), Spurs (A), Bournemouth (H), Fulham (A), Forest (H)Wolves 13th - 28 Squeaky Bum
Chelsea (H), Brentford (H), Leicester (A), Palace (H), Brighton (A), Villa (H), Man Utd (A), Everton (H), Arsenal (A)West Ham 14th - 27 Should just scrape through
Newcastle (H), Fulham (A), Arsenal (H), Bournemouth (A), Liverpool (H), Palace (A), Man Utd (H), Brentford (A), Leeds (A), Leicester (A)Forest 15th - 27 Minor Miracle Required
Leeds (A), Aston Villa (A), Man Utd (H), Liverpool (A), Brighton (H), Brentford (A), Southampton (H), Chelsea (A), Arsenal (H), Crystal Palace (A)Bournemouth 16th - 27 Easier run should mean safety
Brighton & Hove Albion (H), Leicester (A), Tottenham (A), West Ham (H), Southampton (A), Leeds (H),
Chelsea (H), Crystal Palace (A), Man Utd (H), Everton (A)Leeds 17th - 26 Others should be worse but...
Nottingham Forest (H), Crystal Palace (H), Liverpool (H), Fulham (A), Leicester (H), Bournemouth (A), Man City (A), Newcastle (H), West Ham (A), Tottenham (H)Everton 18th - 26 Can Dyche do it - probably not, but he's given them a chance
Chelsea (A), Tottenham (H), Man Utd (A), Fulham (H), Crystal Palace (A), Newcastle (H), Leicester (A), Brighton & Hove Albion (A), Man City (H), Wolves (A), Bournemouth (H)Leicester 19th - 25 Serious New Manager Bounce Required
Brentford (A), Crystal Palace (A), Aston Villa (H), Bournemouth (H), Man City (A), Wolves (H), Leeds (A),
Everton (H), Fulham (A), Liverpool (H), Newcastle (A), West Ham (H)Southampton 20th -23 Doomed
Brentford (H), Tottenham (H), West Ham (A), Manchester City (H), Crystal Palace (H), Arsenal (A), Bournemouth (H), Newcastle (A), Nottingham Forest (A), Fulham (H), Brighton (A), Liverpool (H), -
Are there now more sacked managers than not this season?
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Are there now more sacked managers than not this season?
@antipodean 12 I think in EPL but only 10 clubs - plus Brighton who replaced Potter.
Moyesand Cooper are, I think, the only Manager's of a bottom 10 team that were there when the season kicked off.
Still a good chance West Ham will pull the trigger...
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@antipodean 12 I think in EPL but only 10 clubs - plus Brighton who replaced Potter.
Moyesand Cooper are, I think, the only Manager's of a bottom 10 team that were there when the season kicked off.
Still a good chance West Ham will pull the trigger...
@dogmeat said in EPL 2022 / 2023:
@antipodean 12 I think in EPL but only 10 clubs - plus Brighton who replaced Potter.
Moyesand Cooper are, I think, the only Manager's of a bottom 10 team that were there when the season kicked off.
Still a good chance West Ham will pull the trigger...
Surprised Moyes is still holding on
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Palace Currently 12th - 30 points Safe
Leeds (A), Southampton (A), Everton (H), Wolves (A), West Ham (H), Spurs (A), Bournemouth (H), Fulham (A), Forest (H)Wolves 13th - 28 Squeaky Bum
Chelsea (H), Brentford (H), Leicester (A), Palace (H), Brighton (A), Villa (H), Man Utd (A), Everton (H), Arsenal (A)West Ham 14th - 27 Should just scrape through
Newcastle (H), Fulham (A), Arsenal (H), Bournemouth (A), Liverpool (H), Palace (A), Man Utd (H), Brentford (A), Leeds (A), Leicester (A)Forest 15th - 27 Minor Miracle Required
Leeds (A), Aston Villa (A), Man Utd (H), Liverpool (A), Brighton (H), Brentford (A), Southampton (H), Chelsea (A), Arsenal (H), Crystal Palace (A)Bournemouth 16th - 27 Easier run should mean safety
Brighton & Hove Albion (H), Leicester (A), Tottenham (A), West Ham (H), Southampton (A), Leeds (H),
Chelsea (H), Crystal Palace (A), Man Utd (H), Everton (A)Leeds 17th - 26 Others should be worse but...
Nottingham Forest (H), Crystal Palace (H), Liverpool (H), Fulham (A), Leicester (H), Bournemouth (A), Man City (A), Newcastle (H), West Ham (A), Tottenham (H)Everton 18th - 26 Can Dyche do it - probably not, but he's given them a chance
Chelsea (A), Tottenham (H), Man Utd (A), Fulham (H), Crystal Palace (A), Newcastle (H), Leicester (A), Brighton & Hove Albion (A), Man City (H), Wolves (A), Bournemouth (H)Leicester 19th - 25 Serious New Manager Bounce Required
Brentford (A), Crystal Palace (A), Aston Villa (H), Bournemouth (H), Man City (A), Wolves (H), Leeds (A),
Everton (H), Fulham (A), Liverpool (H), Newcastle (A), West Ham (H)Southampton 20th -23 Doomed
Brentford (H), Tottenham (H), West Ham (A), Manchester City (H), Crystal Palace (H), Arsenal (A), Bournemouth (H), Newcastle (A), Nottingham Forest (A), Fulham (H), Brighton (A), Liverpool (H),@dogmeat I think you are pretty close with those predictions, I think Palace are also in the squeaky bum category though, as although draw looks good, they don't have any real form and like Southampton have the least games in hand
Going to come down to the last day for sure!
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@dogmeat said in EPL 2022 / 2023:
@antipodean 12 I think in EPL but only 10 clubs - plus Brighton who replaced Potter.
Moyesand Cooper are, I think, the only Manager's of a bottom 10 team that were there when the season kicked off.
Still a good chance West Ham will pull the trigger...
Surprised Moyes is still holding on
@Winger He's been brilliant for them, and despite their poor league position, there's a strong possibility that they could still win. The Europa Conference League, so despite their poor league position, his last few seasons have given him a chance to turn things around and rightly so.
Crucial win for them this morning too over Southampton which will help his cause.
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Bournemouth Leicester and Forest all lose.
Leeds with the win against Forest to jump out of the relegation spots
Chelsea are better than a much changed Liverpool but still can't score so it finishes in a dire scoreless draw. Liverpool now looking like a ECL place at best
Meanwhile Mitrovic gets an 8 week ban from the independent tribunal which seems about right but FA are going to appeal.
Some of the media frenzy around Fulham's FA Cup sending's off has been ridiculous. Comparing it to Cantona. Chris Sutton saying 12 matches minimum.
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Bournemouth Leicester and Forest all lose.
Leeds with the win against Forest to jump out of the relegation spots
Chelsea are better than a much changed Liverpool but still can't score so it finishes in a dire scoreless draw. Liverpool now looking like a ECL place at best
Meanwhile Mitrovic gets an 8 week ban from the independent tribunal which seems about right but FA are going to appeal.
Some of the media frenzy around Fulham's FA Cup sending's off has been ridiculous. Comparing it to Cantona. Chris Sutton saying 12 matches minimum.
@dogmeat I wasnt expecting a win against Brighton who are in the race for Europe and on the road havent lost since October (or something like that), was hoping for a point at best, but not one I was targeting. I suspect even Leicester may have felt similar playing Villa. Both teams will be eyeing each other this weekend as a crucial match for points
Big loss for Forest though given the head to head with a team in a similar scenario
What will also make the end of season interesting as some years teams clock off because they are safe and cant get into Europe, so not much to play for. It currently appears that all teams above Palace still have a chance of making Europe, while everyone below needs as many points as they can get. For me this means most teams wont mentally clock off until very late in the season.
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@dogmeat I wasnt expecting a win against Brighton who are in the race for Europe and on the road havent lost since October (or something like that), was hoping for a point at best, but not one I was targeting. I suspect even Leicester may have felt similar playing Villa. Both teams will be eyeing each other this weekend as a crucial match for points
Big loss for Forest though given the head to head with a team in a similar scenario
What will also make the end of season interesting as some years teams clock off because they are safe and cant get into Europe, so not much to play for. It currently appears that all teams above Palace still have a chance of making Europe, while everyone below needs as many points as they can get. For me this means most teams wont mentally clock off until very late in the season.
@bayimports Forest have arguably the hardest run in which is why I suggested a minor miracle is required.
Fulham may have gone to the beach already although they should still be targeting a European place.
Rather than lack of will, I think it's lack of legs that is our issue. Our teensie weensie squadie waddy is being exposed.
Drop more points and I expect we will see some youngsters being blooded.
