Aussie Pro Rugby
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Squad summary
Total Test caps: 733
Average Test caps: 22
Average age: 26
Uncapped players: 7
Most capped: James Slipper (127 Tests)
Youngest member: Max Jorgensen, 18
Oldest member: Cadeyrn Neville, 34
Wallabies camp squad (age, team, Tests played)
Allan Alaalatoa (29, ACT Brumbies, 64 Tests)Ben Donaldson (23, NSW Waratahs, 2 Tests)
Pone Fa'amausili (26, Melbourne Rebels, 3 Tests)
Josh Flook (21, Queensland Reds, uncapped)
Lalakai Foketi (28, NSW Waratahs, 5 Tests)
Nick Frost (23, ACT Brumbies, 9 Tests)
Langi Gleeson (21, NSW Waratahs, 3 Tests)
Carter Gordon (22, Melbourne Rebels, uncapped)
Ned Hanigan (27, NSW Waratahs, 28 Tests)
Reece Hodge (28, Melbourne Rebels, 54 Tests)
Michael Hooper (31, NSW Waratahs, 124 Tests)
Jed Holloway (30, NSW Waratahs, 10 Tests)
Len Ikitau (24, ACT Brumbies, 26 Tests)
Max Jorgensen (18, NSW Waratahs, uncapped)
Andrew Kellaway (27, Melbourne Rebels, 21 Tests)
Lachlan Lonergan (23, ACT Brumbies, 8 Tests)
Ryan Lonergan (24, ACT Brumbies, uncapped)
Fraser McReight (24, Queensland Reds, 10 Tests)
Mark Nawaqanitawase (22, NSW Waratahs, 3 Tests)
Cadeyrn Neville (34, ACT Brumbies, 8 Tests)
Jordan Petaia (23, Queensland Reds, 25 Tests)
David Porecki (30, NSW Waratahs, 10 Tests)
Tom Robertson (28, Western Force, 31 Tests)
Pete Samu (31, ACT Brumbies, 32 Tests)
Blake Schoupp (23, ACT Brumbies, uncapped)
James Slipper (33, ACT Brumbies, 127 Tests)
Darcy Swain (25, ACT Brumbies, 17 Tests)
Jordan Uelese (26, Melbourne Rebels, 15 Tests)
Rob Valetini (24, ACT Brumbies, 30 Tests)
Suliasi Vunivalu (27, Queensland Reds, 1 Test)
Nic White (32, ACT Brumbies, 59 Tests)
Brad Wilkin (27, Melbourne Rebels, uncapped)
Tom Wright (26, ACT Brumbies, 23 Tests)
Rehab group
Angus BellRob Leota
Taniela Tupou
Overseas based players to join via Zoom
Richie ArnoldTom Banks (TBC)
Quade Cooper
Bernard Foley
Marika Koroibete
Samu Kerevi (TBC)
Will Skelton
Not considered for selection due to injury
Folau Fainga'aTom Lynagh
Alex Mafi
Hunter Paisami
Matt Philip
Izack Rodda
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Donaldson made the Wallabies squad. That is frankly, ridiculous.
Otherwise I can see Eddie's logic.
Some big names missing - JOC, Gordon, Tate, Wilson, Lolesio etc.
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Donaldson is a really strange selection. Not sure what Jones sees in him. Admittedly, JOC and Lolesio have not been at their best in SRP, but at least got some experience. Also, Vunivalu is in the squad, but not Muirhead. I'd swap the two. Toole probably also a better pick?
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Donaldson is a really strange selection. Not sure what Jones sees in him. Admittedly, JOC and Lolesio have not been at their best in SRP, but at least got some experience. Also, Vunivalu is in the squad, but not Muirhead. I'd swap the two. Toole probably also a better pick?
@Stargazer Jack Debreczeni would be a better pick than Donaldson. Of course Donaldson plays for Radwick.....
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Donaldson is a really strange selection. Not sure what Jones sees in him. Admittedly, JOC and Lolesio have not been at their best in SRP, but at least got some experience. Also, Vunivalu is in the squad, but not Muirhead. I'd swap the two. Toole probably also a better pick?
@Stargazer said in Aussie Rugby:
Donaldson is a really strange selection. Not sure what Jones sees in him. Admittedly, JOC and Lolesio have not been at their best in SRP, but at least got some experience. Also, Vunivalu is in the squad, but not Muirhead. I'd swap the two. Toole probably also a better pick?
I've never understood how Lolesio managed to become a Wallaby. On form it's a no brainer to have Carter Gordon instead of him. What's baffling is Donaldson's inclusion. And Vunivalu who has done absolutely nothing on a rugby field.
A tremendous six months for Blake Schoupp. I played against him and a couple of other Brumbies wider training group late last year in a social game and had a chat with him afterwards. He's been rewarded for his consistency and hard work. Really nice guy so I'm pleased for him.
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@game_film Saw a checky segment on Aussie tv tonight asking Nathan Clearly about whether he would give Rugby a crack. He reponded by saying he grew up in New Zealand and that rugby was huge over there. While there was nothing in the intervew he didn't rule it out. He is currently working with Dan Carter on his kicking game. Clearly came off as an All Black supporter, no mention of the Wallabies. New Zealand can poach league players as well was the message which was subtley conveyed.
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Squad summary
Total Test caps: 733
Average Test caps: 22
Average age: 26
Uncapped players: 7
Most capped: James Slipper (127 Tests)
Youngest member: Max Jorgensen, 18
Oldest member: Cadeyrn Neville, 34
Wallabies camp squad (age, team, Tests played)
Allan Alaalatoa (29, ACT Brumbies, 64 Tests)Ben Donaldson (23, NSW Waratahs, 2 Tests)
Pone Fa'amausili (26, Melbourne Rebels, 3 Tests)
Josh Flook (21, Queensland Reds, uncapped)
Lalakai Foketi (28, NSW Waratahs, 5 Tests)
Nick Frost (23, ACT Brumbies, 9 Tests)
Langi Gleeson (21, NSW Waratahs, 3 Tests)
Carter Gordon (22, Melbourne Rebels, uncapped)
Ned Hanigan (27, NSW Waratahs, 28 Tests)
Reece Hodge (28, Melbourne Rebels, 54 Tests)
Michael Hooper (31, NSW Waratahs, 124 Tests)
Jed Holloway (30, NSW Waratahs, 10 Tests)
Len Ikitau (24, ACT Brumbies, 26 Tests)
Max Jorgensen (18, NSW Waratahs, uncapped)
Andrew Kellaway (27, Melbourne Rebels, 21 Tests)
Lachlan Lonergan (23, ACT Brumbies, 8 Tests)
Ryan Lonergan (24, ACT Brumbies, uncapped)
Fraser McReight (24, Queensland Reds, 10 Tests)
Mark Nawaqanitawase (22, NSW Waratahs, 3 Tests)
Cadeyrn Neville (34, ACT Brumbies, 8 Tests)
Jordan Petaia (23, Queensland Reds, 25 Tests)
David Porecki (30, NSW Waratahs, 10 Tests)
Tom Robertson (28, Western Force, 31 Tests)
Pete Samu (31, ACT Brumbies, 32 Tests)
Blake Schoupp (23, ACT Brumbies, uncapped)
James Slipper (33, ACT Brumbies, 127 Tests)
Darcy Swain (25, ACT Brumbies, 17 Tests)
Jordan Uelese (26, Melbourne Rebels, 15 Tests)
Rob Valetini (24, ACT Brumbies, 30 Tests)
Suliasi Vunivalu (27, Queensland Reds, 1 Test)
Nic White (32, ACT Brumbies, 59 Tests)
Brad Wilkin (27, Melbourne Rebels, uncapped)
Tom Wright (26, ACT Brumbies, 23 Tests)
Rehab group
Angus BellRob Leota
Taniela Tupou
Overseas based players to join via Zoom
Richie ArnoldTom Banks (TBC)
Quade Cooper
Bernard Foley
Marika Koroibete
Samu Kerevi (TBC)
Will Skelton
Not considered for selection due to injury
Folau Fainga'aTom Lynagh
Alex Mafi
Hunter Paisami
Matt Philip
Izack Rodda
@Stargazer said in Aussie Rugby:
Overseas based players to join via Zoom
“via Zoom” haha get stuffed.
Virtual tackle bags coming to a screen near you.
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@KiwiMurph That story has the shittest highlights package (I only watched ~35 seconds). If the rest of it is anything like that, then the author is smoking meth.
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@KiwiMurph That story has the shittest highlights package (I only watched ~35 seconds). If the rest of it is anything like that, then the author is smoking meth.
@antipodean said in Aussie Rugby:
@KiwiMurph That story has the shittest highlights package (I only watched ~35 seconds). If the rest of it is anything like that, then the author is smoking meth.
You missed a sweet late tackle at about 1:30 then an awesome cut-out pass at about 2:20 (though to be fair, it was a teammate that threw it)
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@KiwiMurph That story has the shittest highlights package (I only watched ~35 seconds). If the rest of it is anything like that, then the author is smoking meth.
@antipodean said in Aussie Rugby:
@KiwiMurph That story has the shittest highlights package (I only watched ~35 seconds). If the rest of it is anything like that, then the author is smoking meth.
It's Doran, who knows nothing about rugby.
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@voodoo and it is funny because of those factors that are historical screwups in Rugby Australia's long timeline of historical screwups.
There's all this talk - mostly from people who are outside the system - about throwing $1.6M into the supposed "grassroots" to help develop players.
Firstly, that is fuck all in real dollar terms.
Secondly, the rugby development pathway is a pile of gibbering insanity, not even close to resembling a cohesive strategy for talent development. Juniors don't have a relationship with Schools don't have a relationship with Seniors, and it will continue to be so until someone pulls the rug out from under the Little Gods of GPS etc.
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I also don't get the "nobody ever sees rugby because it's on Stan".
Rugby League shows some of its games on FTA, just like Rugby Union. The rest are behind a paywall. The cost is about the same for Kayo and Stan.
It is a bullshit argument, particularly for those rugby people complaining about it, yet who were happy to throw twice that at Foxtel for sport and fuck all else of value.
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I also don't get the "nobody ever sees rugby because it's on Stan".
Rugby League shows some of its games on FTA, just like Rugby Union. The rest are behind a paywall. The cost is about the same for Kayo and Stan.
It is a bullshit argument, particularly for those rugby people complaining about it, yet who were happy to throw twice that at Foxtel for sport and fuck all else of value.
@NTA said in Aussie Rugby:
I also don't get the "nobody ever sees rugby because it's on Stan".
Rugby League shows some of its games on FTA, just like Rugby Union. The rest are behind a paywall. The cost is about the same for Kayo and Stan.
It is a bullshit argument, particularly for those rugby people complaining about it, yet who were happy to throw twice that at Foxtel for sport and fuck all else of value.
I don't get how you don't get that argument. I have noticed a huge drop off in rugby coverage at pubs. And a lot of people already have foxtel meaning rugby is no longer exposed to the channel flicker. You now have to go out of your way to fire up Stan to watch rugby. Not to mention having to pay extra every month on top of the normal Stan subscription for their sports channel. I pay the extra month because I can't imagine not having access to rugby. I do not watch any other sport on Stan, It's not exactly value for money for me, but I don't have much choice and I have the money. I wonder how many viewers have stopped watching Super Rugby as a result of the coverage being on Stan?
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@NTA said in Aussie Rugby:
I also don't get the "nobody ever sees rugby because it's on Stan".
Rugby League shows some of its games on FTA, just like Rugby Union. The rest are behind a paywall. The cost is about the same for Kayo and Stan.
It is a bullshit argument, particularly for those rugby people complaining about it, yet who were happy to throw twice that at Foxtel for sport and fuck all else of value.
I don't get how you don't get that argument. I have noticed a huge drop off in rugby coverage at pubs. And a lot of people already have foxtel meaning rugby is no longer exposed to the channel flicker. You now have to go out of your way to fire up Stan to watch rugby. Not to mention having to pay extra every month on top of the normal Stan subscription for their sports channel. I pay the extra month because I can't imagine not having access to rugby. I do not watch any other sport on Stan, It's not exactly value for money for me, but I don't have much choice and I have the money. I wonder how many viewers have stopped watching Super Rugby as a result of the coverage being on Stan?
@Crazy-Horse said in Aussie Rugby:
I have noticed a huge drop off in rugby coverage at pubs.
Which was an error Rugby made in the switch to 9: no public venue agreement. And the fact that V'Landys was always going to fight it tooth and nail. There is a new move in Stan to get things into pubs, but obviously requires different hardware to a STB. Some twitter account called Stan At Your Local.
Regardless: pubs aren't going to show a game that isn't popular, even if it is on FTA. The "rugby australia's stupid moves" is a rich field, and leaving Foxtel isn't the worst of them. Staying with Rupert was going to be even less money and promotion.
@Crazy-Horse said in Aussie Rugby:
And a lot of people already have foxtel
Foxtel terrestrial and satellite have been in decline for years. Minimum of $50 to get Rugby as well as a bunch of shit like Sky News.
Foxtel Now and associated services are growing, however. It is still $50 (from memory) to get Sport on top of the shit channels, but much easier to deal with over the internet than a STB.
Kayo $25 a month - add $5 per screen. You get a lot of sport for that, but no rugby.
Stan with Sport is $25 a month for standard def. Another $31 if you want HD. And $36 if you want 4K. So similar to Kayo, for different sports.
Therefore if you're a rugby follower primarily, I don't see how it is a difficult argument to save yourself $230 a year to ditch Fox for rugby, or spend on other services if you want them.
You can keep rugby AND other sports by paying Stan and Kayo. I don't give a fuck about NRL, AFL, or other sports who are splitting their time between FTA and payTV, so I have Stan.
@Crazy-Horse said in Aussie Rugby:
I wonder how many viewers have stopped watching Super Rugby as a result of the coverage being on Stan?
If they choose to pay Foxtel to support shit like Sky News, and don't want to watch rugby, well... it's their money.
