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EPL 2022 / 2023

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  • antipodeanA antipodean

    Are there now more sacked managers than not this season?

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    @antipodean 12 I think in EPL but only 10 clubs - plus Brighton who replaced Potter.

    Moyesand Cooper are, I think, the only Manager's of a bottom 10 team that were there when the season kicked off.

    Still a good chance West Ham will pull the trigger...

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      @antipodean 12 I think in EPL but only 10 clubs - plus Brighton who replaced Potter.

      Moyesand Cooper are, I think, the only Manager's of a bottom 10 team that were there when the season kicked off.

      Still a good chance West Ham will pull the trigger...

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      @dogmeat said in EPL 2022 / 2023:

      @antipodean 12 I think in EPL but only 10 clubs - plus Brighton who replaced Potter.

      Moyesand Cooper are, I think, the only Manager's of a bottom 10 team that were there when the season kicked off.

      Still a good chance West Ham will pull the trigger...

      Surprised Moyes is still holding on

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        Palace Currently 12th - 30 points Safe
        Leeds (A), Southampton (A), Everton (H), Wolves (A), West Ham (H), Spurs (A), Bournemouth (H), Fulham (A), Forest (H)

        Wolves 13th - 28 Squeaky Bum
        Chelsea (H), Brentford (H), Leicester (A), Palace (H), Brighton (A), Villa (H), Man Utd (A), Everton (H), Arsenal (A)

        West Ham 14th - 27 Should just scrape through
        Newcastle (H), Fulham (A), Arsenal (H), Bournemouth (A), Liverpool (H), Palace (A), Man Utd (H), Brentford (A), Leeds (A), Leicester (A)

        Forest 15th - 27 Minor Miracle Required
        Leeds (A), Aston Villa (A), Man Utd (H), Liverpool (A), Brighton (H), Brentford (A), Southampton (H), Chelsea (A), Arsenal (H), Crystal Palace (A)

        Bournemouth 16th - 27 Easier run should mean safety
        Brighton & Hove Albion (H), Leicester (A), Tottenham (A), West Ham (H), Southampton (A), Leeds (H),
        Chelsea (H), Crystal Palace (A), Man Utd (H), Everton (A)

        Leeds 17th - 26 Others should be worse but...
        Nottingham Forest (H), Crystal Palace (H), Liverpool (H), Fulham (A), Leicester (H), Bournemouth (A), Man City (A), Newcastle (H), West Ham (A), Tottenham (H)

        Everton 18th - 26 Can Dyche do it - probably not, but he's given them a chance
        Chelsea (A), Tottenham (H), Man Utd (A), Fulham (H), Crystal Palace (A), Newcastle (H), Leicester (A), Brighton & Hove Albion (A), Man City (H), Wolves (A), Bournemouth (H)

        Leicester 19th - 25 Serious New Manager Bounce Required
        Brentford (A), Crystal Palace (A), Aston Villa (H), Bournemouth (H), Man City (A), Wolves (H), Leeds (A),
        Everton (H), Fulham (A), Liverpool (H), Newcastle (A), West Ham (H)

        Southampton 20th -23 Doomed
        Brentford (H), Tottenham (H), West Ham (A), Manchester City (H), Crystal Palace (H), Arsenal (A), Bournemouth (H), Newcastle (A), Nottingham Forest (A), Fulham (H), Brighton (A), Liverpool (H),

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        @dogmeat I think you are pretty close with those predictions, I think Palace are also in the squeaky bum category though, as although draw looks good, they don't have any real form and like Southampton have the least games in hand

        Going to come down to the last day for sure!

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          @dogmeat said in EPL 2022 / 2023:

          @antipodean 12 I think in EPL but only 10 clubs - plus Brighton who replaced Potter.

          Moyesand Cooper are, I think, the only Manager's of a bottom 10 team that were there when the season kicked off.

          Still a good chance West Ham will pull the trigger...

          Surprised Moyes is still holding on

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          @Winger He's been brilliant for them, and despite their poor league position, there's a strong possibility that they could still win. The Europa Conference League, so despite their poor league position, his last few seasons have given him a chance to turn things around and rightly so.

          Crucial win for them this morning too over Southampton which will help his cause.

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            Bournemouth Leicester and Forest all lose.

            Leeds with the win against Forest to jump out of the relegation spots

            Chelsea are better than a much changed Liverpool but still can't score so it finishes in a dire scoreless draw. Liverpool now looking like a ECL place at best

            Meanwhile Mitrovic gets an 8 week ban from the independent tribunal which seems about right but FA are going to appeal.

            Some of the media frenzy around Fulham's FA Cup sending's off has been ridiculous. Comparing it to Cantona. Chris Sutton saying 12 matches minimum.

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              Bournemouth Leicester and Forest all lose.

              Leeds with the win against Forest to jump out of the relegation spots

              Chelsea are better than a much changed Liverpool but still can't score so it finishes in a dire scoreless draw. Liverpool now looking like a ECL place at best

              Meanwhile Mitrovic gets an 8 week ban from the independent tribunal which seems about right but FA are going to appeal.

              Some of the media frenzy around Fulham's FA Cup sending's off has been ridiculous. Comparing it to Cantona. Chris Sutton saying 12 matches minimum.

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              @dogmeat I wasnt expecting a win against Brighton who are in the race for Europe and on the road havent lost since October (or something like that), was hoping for a point at best, but not one I was targeting. I suspect even Leicester may have felt similar playing Villa. Both teams will be eyeing each other this weekend as a crucial match for points

              Big loss for Forest though given the head to head with a team in a similar scenario

              What will also make the end of season interesting as some years teams clock off because they are safe and cant get into Europe, so not much to play for. It currently appears that all teams above Palace still have a chance of making Europe, while everyone below needs as many points as they can get. For me this means most teams wont mentally clock off until very late in the season.

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                @dogmeat I wasnt expecting a win against Brighton who are in the race for Europe and on the road havent lost since October (or something like that), was hoping for a point at best, but not one I was targeting. I suspect even Leicester may have felt similar playing Villa. Both teams will be eyeing each other this weekend as a crucial match for points

                Big loss for Forest though given the head to head with a team in a similar scenario

                What will also make the end of season interesting as some years teams clock off because they are safe and cant get into Europe, so not much to play for. It currently appears that all teams above Palace still have a chance of making Europe, while everyone below needs as many points as they can get. For me this means most teams wont mentally clock off until very late in the season.

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                @bayimports Forest have arguably the hardest run in which is why I suggested a minor miracle is required.

                Fulham may have gone to the beach already although they should still be targeting a European place.

                Rather than lack of will, I think it's lack of legs that is our issue. Our teensie weensie squadie waddy is being exposed.

                Drop more points and I expect we will see some youngsters being blooded.

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                  Bournemouth seemed unlucky against Brighton - reports suggested they had plenty of chances but couldn't convert. Fantastic finish by Ferguson who looks fantastic for 18 years old. Same story for Chelsea again, who did remarkably well not to score given how many times they seemed to be one on one with Allison. Liverpool v Arsenal at the weekend will be interesting - surely Liverpool will be full throttle as they were against United or they could actually be humiliated the way Arsenal are playing.

                  Lots of rumours that Cooper will be sacked by Forest but not sure that will do them much good with such a haphazardly built squad.

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                    I've watched Chelseas last 180 minutes for no goals. And ironically, I think they are playing the best I've seen them play in a very long time.

                    They hold the ball well, they create chances, they have some bad defensive lapses, but on the whole aren't too bad.

                    But they literally cannot (legally) score.

                    Mudryk is the real deal, reminds me of Arjen Robben (who I will still argue is the best player I've seen live) but is currently low on confidence and will take a bit of time to get going. Not all young players are Haaland.

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                      The comedy show that isChelsea FC keeps on getting ever more bizarre.

                      Reports that Lampard is taking over as interim Manager until the end of the season.

                      So
                      Sack Lampard to bring in Tuchel
                      Sack Tuchel to bring in Potter
                      Sack Potter to bring in Lampard

                      Unbelievable

                      Tuchel, Potter, Lampard

                      Who is the weakest link?

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                      • MajorPomM MajorPom

                        I've watched Chelseas last 180 minutes for no goals. And ironically, I think they are playing the best I've seen them play in a very long time.

                        They hold the ball well, they create chances, they have some bad defensive lapses, but on the whole aren't too bad.

                        But they literally cannot (legally) score.

                        Mudryk is the real deal, reminds me of Arjen Robben (who I will still argue is the best player I've seen live) but is currently low on confidence and will take a bit of time to get going. Not all young players are Haaland.

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                        @MajorRage said in EPL 2022 / 2023:

                        I've watched Chelseas last 180 minutes for no goals. And ironically, I think they are playing the best I've seen them play in a very long time.

                        They hold the ball well, they create chances, they have some bad defensive lapses, but on the whole aren't too bad.

                        But they literally cannot (legally) score.

                        Mudryk is the real deal, reminds me of Arjen Robben (who I will still argue is the best player I've seen live) but is currently low on confidence and will take a bit of time to get going. Not all young players are Haaland.

                        Not really sure about Mudryk. He really hasn't played much top-level football and his attempted finish v Villa (straight at the keeper) showed it and I can see him disappearing at Chelsea.

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                          Meanwhile West Ham are thrashed at home v Newcastle which must mean Moyes is close to being dismissed. United beat Brentford to stay level on points with Newcastle. Liverpool need to win every game from here to reach 73 points and even that not be enough to finish in the top 4. Realistically the top 4 is between NUFC, MUFC, THFC and BAHFC.

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                            Meanwhile West Ham are thrashed at home v Newcastle which must mean Moyes is close to being dismissed. United beat Brentford to stay level on points with Newcastle. Liverpool need to win every game from here to reach 73 points and even that not be enough to finish in the top 4. Realistically the top 4 is between NUFC, MUFC, THFC and BAHFC.

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                            @KiwiPie said in EPL 2022 / 2023:

                            Meanwhile West Ham are thrashed at home v Newcastle which must mean Moyes is close to being dismissed. United beat Brentford to stay level on points with Newcastle. Liverpool need to win every game from here to reach 73 points and even that not be enough to finish in the top 4. Realistically the top 4 is between NUFC, MUFC, THFC and BAHAFC.

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                              @KiwiPie said in EPL 2022 / 2023:

                              Meanwhile West Ham are thrashed at home v Newcastle which must mean Moyes is close to being dismissed. United beat Brentford to stay level on points with Newcastle. Liverpool need to win every game from here to reach 73 points and even that not be enough to finish in the top 4. Realistically the top 4 is between NUFC, MUFC, THFC and BAHAFC.

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                              KiwiPie
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                              @dogmeat Actually it is BHAFC!

                              Surely not Lampard to Chelsea. To bridge the gap until they appoint a proper manager in June?

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                                @dogmeat Actually it is BHAFC!

                                Surely not Lampard to Chelsea. To bridge the gap until they appoint a proper manager in June?

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                                @KiwiPie When I used to go to the Goldstone Ground the signs definitely said Welcome to Brighton & Hove Albion.

                                https://www.bbc.com/sport/football/65196241

                                I had to check the date on the by-line as it makes more sense if the story is 6 days old.

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                                  Big weekend of games coming up..but congratulations Burnley who have already secured promotion back to the Prem. Could still break 100 points and still go undefeated at home

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                                    WIth Wrexham getting tonked 3 - 1 away at lower midtable Halifax it now sees @kiwipie and Notts County sneak into the lead on goal difference after they pummelled Weadstone 3 - 0 at home. It is noted, however, that Wrexham still have a game in hand and they host County on Monday in a match that is likely to decide who wins the Vanarama National League!

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                                      WIth Wrexham getting tonked 3 - 1 away at lower midtable Halifax it now sees @kiwipie and Notts County sneak into the lead on goal difference after they pummelled Weadstone 3 - 0 at home. It is noted, however, that Wrexham still have a game in hand and they host County on Monday in a match that is likely to decide who wins the Vanarama National League!

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                                      @Higgins said in EPL 2022 / 2023:

                                      WIth Wrexham getting tonked 3 - 1 away at lower midtable Halifax it now sees @kiwipie and Notts County sneak into the lead on goal difference after they pummelled Weadstone 3 - 0 at home. It is noted, however, that Wrexham still have a game in hand and they host County on Monday in a match that is likely to decide who wins the Vanarama National League!

                                      Yeah forget Arsenal v Liverpool, Wrexham v Notts County is the big game of the holiday weekend. Goal difference is so close and with both teams scoring bags of goals, it could still be decisive. Suddenly a draw isn't the disaster it would have been for us against Wrexham and a win puts in charge again.

                                      Macaulay Langstaff has 41 for the season after 41 games without a penalty taken and it will be interesting to see if he gets snapped up by a League 1 or Championship team.

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                                        Big weekend of games coming up..but congratulations Burnley who have already secured promotion back to the Prem. Could still break 100 points and still go undefeated at home

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                                        @bayimports said in EPL 2022 / 2023:

                                        Big weekend of games coming up..but congratulations Burnley who have already secured promotion back to the Prem. Could still break 100 points and still go undefeated at home

                                        Astounding season for Kompany, everyone thought it would be hard for him to take Burnley after all those Dyche years but they have romped it. Sheff U looking likely to return as well with what looks like many of their squad from when they went down. Would be a great achievement for Luton to make it up but they are tiny and I don't see how they could compete in the Prem.

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                                          Great win for the cherries, not expecting a win next week and could be back in drop zone due to goal difference, but taking wins against fellow strugglers is important. Will celebrate the week anyway

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