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Crusaders v Moana Pasifika

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  • Cantab79C Cantab79

    The Crusaders injury issues are extremely frustrating. There has to be a reason why half our squad is unavailable? Has our strength & conditioning team changed? Whilst there has been a range of different injuries, there has to be a science based reason for this happening? Otherwise, it's just bad luck?

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    @Cantab79 it's not just the Crusaders though is it? IIRC @Stargazer wonders if it's the added speed. I wonder if they are being more cautious with injuries and niggles this year because of the world cup.

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    • ChrisC Chris

      @Bones said in Crusaders v Moana Pasifika:

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      @Old-Samurai-Jack if everybody is fit I'd love to see Gardiner get a decent run at 6 for the Saders. Just how they do that I am not sure. Grace 8, Gardiner 6, then it's Blackadder or Christie at 7.

      Blackadder's best position is 7...he's a shit load better than Christie...

      The thing about Christie he doesn't carry great,But he is the work horse, tackles stats are insane and great around the maul and ruck.

      Grace,Gardner,Blackadder would be a real hard arsed LF trio I would love to see it.
      Then depending on the opposition Christie,Lilo-Willie or Havilli who has been good this season tackles hard carries well on the bench.

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      @Chris said in Crusaders v Moana Pasifika:

      The thing about Christie he doesn't carry great,But he is the work horse, tackles stats are insane and great around the maul and ruck.

      Well yeah like you say, it's a bit like Pocock being a workhorse because his jackal stats were so good. If you're ignoring other aspects of the game, it's easier to jack up your stats in your "speciality".

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      • Crazy HorseC Crazy Horse

        @Cantab79 it's not just the Crusaders though is it? IIRC @Stargazer wonders if it's the added speed. I wonder if they are being more cautious with injuries and niggles this year because of the world cup.

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        @Crazy-Horse Yeah, that was me. Just thinking, more speed means more power going into collisions, increasing the chance of injury. Also more likely to increase the number of accidents.

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        • Crazy HorseC Crazy Horse

          @Cantab79 it's not just the Crusaders though is it? IIRC @Stargazer wonders if it's the added speed. I wonder if they are being more cautious with injuries and niggles this year because of the world cup.

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          @Crazy-Horse said in Crusaders v Moana Pasifika:

          @Cantab79 it's not just the Crusaders though is it? IIRC @Stargazer wonders if it's the added speed. I wonder if they are being more cautious with injuries and niggles this year because of the world cup.

          I think most sides have comparable injuries to previous years. But a handful of sides have a lot more (in NZ it's the Crusaders and Highlanders)

          It could be the speed but the uneven distribution makes me question that (surely it would be all sides). It could be something those sides are doing wrong. I'm almost certain it has nothing to do with being careful in RWC year.

          I would lean towards bad luck

          Teams have had worse luck in the past. Blues 2012 springs to mind when we had our 8 first choice locks missing to injury & cancer

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            @Crazy-Horse said in Crusaders v Moana Pasifika:

            @Cantab79 it's not just the Crusaders though is it? IIRC @Stargazer wonders if it's the added speed. I wonder if they are being more cautious with injuries and niggles this year because of the world cup.

            I think most sides have comparable injuries to previous years. But a handful of sides have a lot more (in NZ it's the Crusaders and Highlanders)

            It could be the speed but the uneven distribution makes me question that (surely it would be all sides). It could be something those sides are doing wrong. I'm almost certain it has nothing to do with being careful in RWC year.

            I would lean towards bad luck

            Teams have had worse luck in the past. Blues 2012 springs to mind when we had our 8 first choice locks missing to injury & cancer

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            @Duluth yeah may very well be right. Bad luck is probably the simplest answer.

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              • BonesB Bones

                @Chris said in Crusaders v Moana Pasifika:

                The thing about Christie he doesn't carry great,But he is the work horse, tackles stats are insane and great around the maul and ruck.

                Well yeah like you say, it's a bit like Pocock being a workhorse because his jackal stats were so good. If you're ignoring other aspects of the game, it's easier to jack up your stats in your "speciality".

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                @Bones His tackle stats are top in the competition.

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                  @Bones His tackle stats are top in the competition.

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                  @SBW1 said in Crusaders v Moana Pasifika:

                  @Bones His tackle stats are top in the competition.

                  Who?

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                    @SBW1 said in Crusaders v Moana Pasifika:

                    @Bones His tackle stats are top in the competition.

                    Who?

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                    @Bones Tom Christie.

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                      @Bones Tom Christie.

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                      @SBW1 said in Crusaders v Moana Pasifika:

                      @Bones Tom Christie.

                      Yeah not surprised. It's not like he's saving his energy for one of his block busting runs, or trying to move big bodies at the breakdown. He's a great tackler...

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                      • BonesB Bones

                        @SBW1 said in Crusaders v Moana Pasifika:

                        @Bones Tom Christie.

                        Yeah not surprised. It's not like he's saving his energy for one of his block busting runs, or trying to move big bodies at the breakdown. He's a great tackler...

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                        @Bones said in Crusaders v Moana Pasifika:

                        @SBW1 said in Crusaders v Moana Pasifika:

                        @Bones Tom Christie.

                        Yeah not surprised. It's not like he's saving his energy for one of his block busting runs, or trying to move big bodies at the breakdown. He's a great tackler...

                        I think Christie plays his role well at the Saders. Not saying he should be pushing for higher honours but I don't worry when he starts. He gets his job done. I think the Saders missed him for much of the game on the weekend.

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                        • Crazy HorseC Crazy Horse

                          @Bones said in Crusaders v Moana Pasifika:

                          @SBW1 said in Crusaders v Moana Pasifika:

                          @Bones Tom Christie.

                          Yeah not surprised. It's not like he's saving his energy for one of his block busting runs, or trying to move big bodies at the breakdown. He's a great tackler...

                          I think Christie plays his role well at the Saders. Not saying he should be pushing for higher honours but I don't worry when he starts. He gets his job done. I think the Saders missed him for much of the game on the weekend.

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                          @Crazy-Horse said in Crusaders v Moana Pasifika:

                          @Bones said in Crusaders v Moana Pasifika:

                          @SBW1 said in Crusaders v Moana Pasifika:

                          @Bones Tom Christie.

                          Yeah not surprised. It's not like he's saving his energy for one of his block busting runs, or trying to move big bodies at the breakdown. He's a great tackler...

                          I think Christie plays his role well at the Saders. Not saying he should be pushing for higher honours but I don't worry when he starts. He gets his job done. I think the Saders missed him for much of the game on the weekend.

                          I agree wholeheartedly! That comment even fits perfectly with my original post on the subject ๐Ÿ˜‰

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                          • BonesB Bones

                            @Crazy-Horse said in Crusaders v Moana Pasifika:

                            @Bones said in Crusaders v Moana Pasifika:

                            @SBW1 said in Crusaders v Moana Pasifika:

                            @Bones Tom Christie.

                            Yeah not surprised. It's not like he's saving his energy for one of his block busting runs, or trying to move big bodies at the breakdown. He's a great tackler...

                            I think Christie plays his role well at the Saders. Not saying he should be pushing for higher honours but I don't worry when he starts. He gets his job done. I think the Saders missed him for much of the game on the weekend.

                            I agree wholeheartedly! That comment even fits perfectly with my original post on the subject ๐Ÿ˜‰

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                            @Bones https://www.stuff.co.nz/sport/rugby/super-rugby/300849550/bye-week-couldnt-be-timed-better-for-dinged-up-crusaders

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                              That article above said Newell is done for the year. I missed his injury news, is it just the Super season or has he been ruled out of consideration for the WC as well?

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                              • Crazy HorseC Crazy Horse

                                That article above said Newell is done for the year. I missed his injury news, is it just the Super season or has he been ruled out of consideration for the WC as well?

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                                @Crazy-Horse said in Crusaders v Moana Pasifika:

                                That article above said Newell is done for the year. I missed his injury news, is it just the Super season or has he been ruled out of consideration for the WC as well?

                                9 months I heard.

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                                  @Crazy-Horse said in Crusaders v Moana Pasifika:

                                  That article above said Newell is done for the year. I missed his injury news, is it just the Super season or has he been ruled out of consideration for the WC as well?

                                  9 months I heard.

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                                  @Chris bugger

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                                  • KiwiMurphK KiwiMurph

                                    Nanai may not have his old explosion but still has the silky skills

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                                    @KiwiMurph said in Crusaders v Moana Pasifika:

                                    Nanai may not have his old explosion but still has the silky skills

                                    Nanai used to be very effective at accelerating just as contact was about to occur (reminded me a lot of a few league wingers) to break the line. He's always had very good vision as a fullback or wing.

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                                      @Bones https://www.stuff.co.nz/sport/rugby/super-rugby/300849550/bye-week-couldnt-be-timed-better-for-dinged-up-crusaders

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                                      @SBW1 said in Crusaders v Moana Pasifika:

                                      @Bones https://www.stuff.co.nz/sport/rugby/super-rugby/300849550/bye-week-couldnt-be-timed-better-for-dinged-up-crusaders

                                      Has this got anything to do with my posts?

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                                      • BonesB Bones

                                        @SBW1 said in Crusaders v Moana Pasifika:

                                        @Bones https://www.stuff.co.nz/sport/rugby/super-rugby/300849550/bye-week-couldnt-be-timed-better-for-dinged-up-crusaders

                                        Has this got anything to do with my posts?

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                                        @Bones I think @SBW1 hasn't discovered yet that it's possible to post on the Fern without replying to someone else's post. A case of using the wrong "reply" button!

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                                          @SBW1 if you're on a phone, that button on the right lets you reply to the thread instead of replying to a post..

                                          Screenshot_2023-04-11-07-41-27-60_40deb401b9ffe8e1df2f1cc5ba480b12.jpg

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