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    Article on Roigard. Compared to Cowan
    https://www.rugbypass.com/news/the-former-all-black-halfback-that-cam-roigard-is-drawing-comparisons-with/

    and Blackadder makes another team of the week. Stevenson misses out though in this team

    https://www.rugbypass.com/news/super-rugby-pacific-team-of-the-week-for-round-four/

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      Oh, and best NZ second five was Stacey Ili.

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      @cgrant said in Best players in SR this week:

      Oh, and best NZ second five was Stacey Ili.

      He’s on fire for the Rebels.

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        interesting to compare to rugbypass, i thought TUJ was a huge presence for us when it came to front foot ball, hunt could shovel the ball on and generally not loose ground

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          Not often the canes get two front rowers in any SR team of the week

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            interesting to compare to rugbypass, i thought TUJ was a huge presence for us when it came to front foot ball, hunt could shovel the ball on and generally not loose ground

            alt text

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            @Kiwiwomble said in Best players in SR this week:

            interesting to compare to rugbypass, i thought TUJ was a huge presence for us when it came to front foot ball, hunt could shovel the ball on and generally not loose ground

            alt text

            Burke at 15? Surely someone was better than him. The best I can say about him on the weekend was that I don't recall any major blunders.

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              @Kiwiwomble said in Best players in SR this week:

              interesting to compare to rugbypass, i thought TUJ was a huge presence for us when it came to front foot ball, hunt could shovel the ball on and generally not loose ground

              alt text

              Burke at 15? Surely someone was better than him. The best I can say about him on the weekend was that I don't recall any major blunders.

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              @Crazy-Horse to be clear....i didn't pick it 😉

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                A bit off topic but what would be your form team so far (eligible NZ players only) ?
                Mine :
                De Groot
                Taukei'aho
                Lomax
                Retallick
                ?
                Finau
                Papali'i
                Sotutu
                Weber/Roigard
                MacKenzie
                Fainganu'uku
                T. Umaga Jensen
                Aumua
                Narawa/Telea
                Stephenson

                I could not find a lock to partner BBBR : Whitelock has been sidelined for weeks and Vai'i goes missing sometimes. It's the same with PPP. Maybe the most constant in his performances is Cameron Suafua but he is not a standout either. Bird has been good in his outings but he is not even considered as a starter at the Canes. So who ? Gardiner (he's just a stop gap in the Crusaders team as he is more a 6 than a lock) ? Barrett (pretty anonymous so far) ?
                I could not make a choice between Roigard and Weber. The latter is slightly in front because of a bad Roigard's performance from the bench. The same for Telea and Narawa. Both have been outstanding so far.

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                  A bit off topic but what would be your form team so far (eligible NZ players only) ?
                  Mine :
                  De Groot
                  Taukei'aho
                  Lomax
                  Retallick
                  ?
                  Finau
                  Papali'i
                  Sotutu
                  Weber/Roigard
                  MacKenzie
                  Fainganu'uku
                  T. Umaga Jensen
                  Aumua
                  Narawa/Telea
                  Stephenson

                  I could not find a lock to partner BBBR : Whitelock has been sidelined for weeks and Vai'i goes missing sometimes. It's the same with PPP. Maybe the most constant in his performances is Cameron Suafua but he is not a standout either. Bird has been good in his outings but he is not even considered as a starter at the Canes. So who ? Gardiner (he's just a stop gap in the Crusaders team as he is more a 6 than a lock) ? Barrett (pretty anonymous so far) ?
                  I could not make a choice between Roigard and Weber. The latter is slightly in front because of a bad Roigard's performance from the bench. The same for Telea and Narawa. Both have been outstanding so far.

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                  @cgrant said in Best players in SR this week:

                  A bit off topic but what would be your form team so far (eligible NZ players only) ?
                  Mine :
                  De Groot
                  Taukei'aho
                  Lomax
                  Retallick
                  ?
                  Finau
                  Papali'i
                  Sotutu
                  Weber/Roigard
                  MacKenzie
                  Fainganu'uku
                  T. Umaga Jensen
                  Aumua
                  Narawa/Telea
                  Stephenson

                  I could not find a lock to partner BBBR : Whitelock has been sidelined for weeks and Vai'i goes missing sometimes. It's the same with PPP. Maybe the most constant in his performances is Cameron Suafua but he is not a standout either. Bird has been good in his outings but he is not even considered as a starter at the Canes. So who ? Gardiner (he's just a stop gap in the Crusaders team as he is more a 6 than a lock) ? Barrett (pretty anonymous so far) ?
                  I could not make a choice between Roigard and Weber. The latter is slightly in front because of a bad Roigard's performance from the bench. The same for Telea and Narawa. Both have been outstanding so far.

                  Solid team, but I’d have Proctor over Aumua. Proctor has been exceptional and was sorely missed against the Chiefs on Saturday.

                  Also when he was fit, Blackadder was playing the house down so maybe he deserves a mention.

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                    A bit off topic but what would be your form team so far (eligible NZ players only) ?
                    Mine :
                    De Groot
                    Taukei'aho
                    Lomax
                    Retallick
                    ?
                    Finau
                    Papali'i
                    Sotutu
                    Weber/Roigard
                    MacKenzie
                    Fainganu'uku
                    T. Umaga Jensen
                    Aumua
                    Narawa/Telea
                    Stephenson

                    I could not find a lock to partner BBBR : Whitelock has been sidelined for weeks and Vai'i goes missing sometimes. It's the same with PPP. Maybe the most constant in his performances is Cameron Suafua but he is not a standout either. Bird has been good in his outings but he is not even considered as a starter at the Canes. So who ? Gardiner (he's just a stop gap in the Crusaders team as he is more a 6 than a lock) ? Barrett (pretty anonymous so far) ?
                    I could not make a choice between Roigard and Weber. The latter is slightly in front because of a bad Roigard's performance from the bench. The same for Telea and Narawa. Both have been outstanding so far.

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                    @cgrant said in Best players in SR this week:

                    A bit off topic but what would be your form team so far (eligible NZ players only) ?
                    Mine :
                    De Groot
                    Taukei'aho
                    Lomax
                    Retallick
                    ?
                    Finau
                    Papali'i
                    Sotutu
                    Weber/Roigard
                    MacKenzie
                    Fainganu'uku
                    T. Umaga Jensen
                    Aumua
                    Narawa/Telea
                    Stephenson

                    I could not find a lock to partner BBBR : Whitelock has been sidelined for weeks and Vai'i goes missing sometimes. It's the same with PPP. Maybe the most constant in his performances is Cameron Suafua but he is not a standout either. Bird has been good in his outings but he is not even considered as a starter at the Canes. So who ? Gardiner (he's just a stop gap in the Crusaders team as he is more a 6 than a lock) ? Barrett (pretty anonymous so far) ?
                    I could not make a choice between Roigard and Weber. The latter is slightly in front because of a bad Roigard's performance from the bench. The same for Telea and Narawa. Both have been outstanding so far.

                    Thought Vaa'i was good yesterday

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                      @cgrant said in Best players in SR this week:

                      A bit off topic but what would be your form team so far (eligible NZ players only) ?
                      Mine :
                      De Groot
                      Taukei'aho
                      Lomax
                      Retallick
                      ?
                      Finau
                      Papali'i
                      Sotutu
                      Weber/Roigard
                      MacKenzie
                      Fainganu'uku
                      T. Umaga Jensen
                      Aumua
                      Narawa/Telea
                      Stephenson

                      I could not find a lock to partner BBBR : Whitelock has been sidelined for weeks and Vai'i goes missing sometimes. It's the same with PPP. Maybe the most constant in his performances is Cameron Suafua but he is not a standout either. Bird has been good in his outings but he is not even considered as a starter at the Canes. So who ? Gardiner (he's just a stop gap in the Crusaders team as he is more a 6 than a lock) ? Barrett (pretty anonymous so far) ?
                      I could not make a choice between Roigard and Weber. The latter is slightly in front because of a bad Roigard's performance from the bench. The same for Telea and Narawa. Both have been outstanding so far.

                      Thought Vaa'i was good yesterday

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                      Zero impact said Bones.

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                        @booboo
                        Zero impact said Bones.

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                        @cgrant He was active around the park and tidy in what he did. He was the distributor while Retallick and Taukeiaho hit up the hard yards, with support from Jacobson, Sowakula, Dyer and Norris.

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                          @cgrant He was active around the park and tidy in what he did. He was the distributor while Retallick and Taukeiaho hit up the hard yards, with support from Jacobson, Sowakula, Dyer and Norris.

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                          We are expecting more of him. Let's not forget he's an All Black.

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                            I'd pick Ainsley at TH. He's more prominent around the field than Lomax has been, and his scrummaging has been strong.

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                              @cgrant He was active around the park and tidy in what he did. He was the distributor while Retallick and Taukeiaho hit up the hard yards, with support from Jacobson, Sowakula, Dyer and Norris.

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                              @ARHS said in Best players in SR this week:

                              @cgrant He was active around the park and tidy in what he did. He was the distributor while Retallick and Taukeiaho hit up the hard yards, with support from Jacobson, Sowakula, Dyer and Norris.

                              Yeah that's basically what I said, but I didn't ignore the negative aspects. He's got good hands and geez the kid gets around the field. But as soon as he has to do actual tight forward stuff, meh. Gets stopped dead hitting it up, like a flea if he hits the ruck. It makes him seem smaller than he is.

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                                @cgrant said in Best players in SR this week:

                                A bit off topic but what would be your form team so far (eligible NZ players only) ?
                                Mine :
                                De Groot
                                Taukei'aho
                                Lomax
                                Retallick
                                ?
                                Finau
                                Papali'i
                                Sotutu
                                Weber/Roigard
                                MacKenzie
                                Fainganu'uku
                                T. Umaga Jensen
                                Aumua
                                Narawa/Telea
                                Stephenson

                                I could not find a lock to partner BBBR : Whitelock has been sidelined for weeks and Vai'i goes missing sometimes. It's the same with PPP. Maybe the most constant in his performances is Cameron Suafua but he is not a standout either. Bird has been good in his outings but he is not even considered as a starter at the Canes. So who ? Gardiner (he's just a stop gap in the Crusaders team as he is more a 6 than a lock) ? Barrett (pretty anonymous so far) ?
                                I could not make a choice between Roigard and Weber. The latter is slightly in front because of a bad Roigard's performance from the bench. The same for Telea and Narawa. Both have been outstanding so far.

                                Solid team, but I’d have Proctor over Aumua. Proctor has been exceptional and was sorely missed against the Chiefs on Saturday.

                                Also when he was fit, Blackadder was playing the house down so maybe he deserves a mention.

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                                @Canes4life said in Best players in SR this week:

                                @cgrant said in Best players in SR this week:

                                A bit off topic but what would be your form team so far (eligible NZ players only) ?
                                Mine :
                                De Groot
                                Taukei'aho
                                Lomax
                                Retallick
                                ?
                                Finau
                                Papali'i
                                Sotutu
                                Weber/Roigard
                                MacKenzie
                                Fainganu'uku
                                T. Umaga Jensen
                                Aumua
                                Narawa/Telea
                                Stephenson

                                I could not find a lock to partner BBBR : Whitelock has been sidelined for weeks and Vai'i goes missing sometimes. It's the same with PPP. Maybe the most constant in his performances is Cameron Suafua but he is not a standout either. Bird has been good in his outings but he is not even considered as a starter at the Canes. So who ? Gardiner (he's just a stop gap in the Crusaders team as he is more a 6 than a lock) ? Barrett (pretty anonymous so far) ?
                                I could not make a choice between Roigard and Weber. The latter is slightly in front because of a bad Roigard's performance from the bench. The same for Telea and Narawa. Both have been outstanding so far.

                                Solid team, but I’d have Proctor over Aumua. Proctor has been exceptional and was sorely missed against the Chiefs on Saturday.

                                Also when he was fit, Blackadder was playing the house down so maybe he deserves a mention.

                                Sorry, I forgot Proctor. Yes, I would take him over Aumua. He could be a bolter for the ABs if the likes of ALB and Goodhue don't come back strongly.

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                                  that's not a bad shout for a form side

                                  what should be concerning is, maybe only the first 4 blokes there will start for the ABs

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                                    @cgrant said in Best players in SR this week:

                                    A bit off topic but what would be your form team so far (eligible NZ players only) ?
                                    Mine :
                                    De Groot
                                    Taukei'aho
                                    Lomax
                                    Retallick
                                    ?
                                    Finau
                                    Papali'i
                                    Sotutu
                                    Weber/Roigard
                                    MacKenzie
                                    Fainganu'uku
                                    T. Umaga Jensen
                                    Aumua
                                    Narawa/Telea
                                    Stephenson

                                    I could not find a lock to partner BBBR : Whitelock has been sidelined for weeks and Vai'i goes missing sometimes. It's the same with PPP. Maybe the most constant in his performances is Cameron Suafua but he is not a standout either. Bird has been good in his outings but he is not even considered as a starter at the Canes. So who ? Gardiner (he's just a stop gap in the Crusaders team as he is more a 6 than a lock) ? Barrett (pretty anonymous so far) ?
                                    I could not make a choice between Roigard and Weber. The latter is slightly in front because of a bad Roigard's performance from the bench. The same for Telea and Narawa. Both have been outstanding so far.

                                    Solid team, but I’d have Proctor over Aumua. Proctor has been exceptional and was sorely missed against the Chiefs on Saturday.

                                    Also when he was fit, Blackadder was playing the house down so maybe he deserves a mention.

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                                    @Canes4life said in Best players in SR this week:

                                    @cgrant said in Best players in SR this week:

                                    A bit off topic but what would be your form team so far (eligible NZ players only) ?
                                    Mine :
                                    De Groot
                                    Taukei'aho
                                    Lomax
                                    Retallick
                                    ?
                                    Finau
                                    Papali'i
                                    Sotutu
                                    Weber/Roigard
                                    MacKenzie
                                    Fainganu'uku
                                    T. Umaga Jensen
                                    Aumua
                                    Narawa/Telea
                                    Stephenson

                                    I could not find a lock to partner BBBR : Whitelock has been sidelined for weeks and Vai'i goes missing sometimes. It's the same with PPP. Maybe the most constant in his performances is Cameron Suafua but he is not a standout either. Bird has been good in his outings but he is not even considered as a starter at the Canes. So who ? Gardiner (he's just a stop gap in the Crusaders team as he is more a 6 than a lock) ? Barrett (pretty anonymous so far) ?
                                    I could not make a choice between Roigard and Weber. The latter is slightly in front because of a bad Roigard's performance from the bench. The same for Telea and Narawa. Both have been outstanding so far.

                                    Solid team, but I’d have Proctor over Aumua. Proctor has been exceptional and was sorely missed against the Chiefs on Saturday.

                                    Also when he was fit, Blackadder was playing the house down so maybe he deserves a mention.

                                    i was very impressed with Proctor against the Highlanders, the backline actually sparked at 13 rather than petered out

                                    @mariner4life said in Best players in SR this week:

                                    that's not a bad shout for a form side

                                    what should be concerning is, maybe only the first 4 blokes there will start for the ABs

                                    definitely concerning

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                                    • mariner4lifeM mariner4life

                                      that's not a bad shout for a form side

                                      what should be concerning is, maybe only the first 4 blokes there will start for the ABs

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                                      @mariner4life said in Best players in SR this week:

                                      what should be concerning is, maybe only the first 4 blokes there will start for the ABs

                                      Why? The knockout stages of the RWC are in mid to late October. I would expect regular ABs to be on a program to peak then. We’ve seen that in previous years

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                                      • mariner4lifeM mariner4life

                                        that's not a bad shout for a form side

                                        what should be concerning is, maybe only the first 4 blokes there will start for the ABs

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                                        @mariner4life said in Best players in SR this week:

                                        that's not a bad shout for a form side

                                        what should be concerning is, maybe only the first 4 blokes there will start for the ABs

                                        Not too concerning unless this is the same weekly form side by the tail end of the comp. (edit: as @Duluth just said)

                                        Finau an interesting call. Is he in bolter discussions? If they still want a 'strong man' 6 he is doing that role better than others atm.

                                        Personally I think Cane is at 7 due to winning a points decision against Paps.

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                                          @mariner4life said in Best players in SR this week:

                                          what should be concerning is, maybe only the first 4 blokes there will start for the ABs

                                          Why? The knockout stages of the RWC are in mid to late October. I would expect regular ABs to be on a program to peak then. We’ve seen that in previous years

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                                          @Duluth said in Best players in SR this week:

                                          @mariner4life said in Best players in SR this week:

                                          what should be concerning is, maybe only the first 4 blokes there will start for the ABs

                                          Why? The knockout stages of the RWC are in mid to late October. I would expect regular ABs to be on a program to peak then. We’ve seen that in previous years

                                          i don't subscribe to that way of thinking at all. Good players should be good no matter what. But for some reason in World Cup years NZ rugby fans are cool with our so called Elite talent playing like ass for half the year in the vain hope that it all comes good later on.

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