Best players in SR this week
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hookers, midfielders, loose-forwards, props, halfbacks.
32 players listed (3 Crusaders).
the Crusaders have a monopoly on NZ's top Super Rugby talent, clearly.
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@kiwi_expat 8 of the 16 forwards named for the All Blacks XV squad were Crusaders.
@KiwiMurph 0/12 backs, plus Cortez Ratima, Pouri Rakete-Stones, Shaun Stevenson, Tevita Mafileo, Tyrone Thompson, were brought in for the second game.
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@KiwiMurph 0/12 backs, plus Cortez Ratima, Pouri Rakete-Stones, Shaun Stevenson, Tevita Mafileo, Tyrone Thompson, were brought in for the second game.
@kiwi_expat said in Best players in SR this week:
@KiwiMurph 0/12 backs, plus Cortez Ratima, Pouri Rakete-Stones, Shaun Stevenson, Tevita Mafileo, Tyrone Thompson, were brought in for the second game.
Aside from halfback the Crusaders could have put a full backline from the ABs end of year tour with a 10, 2 midfielders and 3 outside backs.
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Anyway - back on topic, one player to me who has really improved is Nanai-Seturo.
His error rate is way down and his defence is much improved.
Hopefully he sticks around NZ as he could push for higher honours next year.
@KiwiMurph Yes, although 12 months ago (according to boardies on here...) the Chiefs back three options were useless, I remember it very clearly, we have no quality finishers they said, it's the reason we lost to Razor's mob they said, the poor performances nothing to do with the coaches, we simply don't have the cattle, they said.
Funny thing is they didn't introduce anyone new to the squad & the sentiment has changed completely, it turns out that developing existing players and improved detail in coaching (Paul Feeney's work with Chiefs outside backs in pre-season) can make a difference. The Chiefs' back three are outperforming everyone this season.
Narawa is our best 14 on show, he is almost the complete package at just 23, I'd personally take him over Telea.
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@KiwiMurph Yes, although 12 months ago (according to boardies on here...) the Chiefs back three options were useless, I remember it very clearly, we have no quality finishers they said, it's the reason we lost to Razor's mob they said, the poor performances nothing to do with the coaches, we simply don't have the cattle, they said.
Funny thing is they didn't introduce anyone new to the squad & the sentiment has changed completely, it turns out that developing existing players and improved detail in coaching (Paul Feeney's work with Chiefs outside backs in pre-season) can make a difference. The Chiefs' back three are outperforming everyone this season.
Narawa is our best 14 on show, he is almost the complete package at just 23, I'd personally take him over Telea.
@kiwi_expat come on man, Razor is the coach next year, you got your wish, you can stop with the bizarre claims now.
Telea is absolutely the form 14 of the whole comp, Weber is absolutely a running halfback, he isn't noted for his pace because of his amazing pass.
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@kiwi_expat come on man, Razor is the coach next year, you got your wish, you can stop with the bizarre claims now.
Telea is absolutely the form 14 of the whole comp, Weber is absolutely a running halfback, he isn't noted for his pace because of his amazing pass.
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@kiwi_expat come on man, Razor is the coach next year, you got your wish, you can stop with the bizarre claims now.
Telea is absolutely the form 14 of the whole comp, Weber is absolutely a running halfback, he isn't noted for his pace because of his amazing pass.
@Bones said in Best players in SR this week:
@kiwi_expat come on man, Razor is the coach next year, you got your wish, you can stop with the bizarre claims now.
Telea is absolutely the form 14 of the whole comp, Weber is absolutely a running halfback, he isn't noted for his pace because of his amazing pass.
Maybe I missed something but isn't he praising the chiefs coaches?
Funny thing is they didn't introduce anyone new to the squad & the sentiment has changed completely, it turns out that developing existing players and improved detail in coaching (Paul Feeney's work with Chiefs outside backs in pre-season) can make a difference.
I'm not sure why Weber isn't rated as a running halfback though.
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@Bones said in Best players in SR this week:
@kiwi_expat come on man, Razor is the coach next year, you got your wish, you can stop with the bizarre claims now.
Telea is absolutely the form 14 of the whole comp, Weber is absolutely a running halfback, he isn't noted for his pace because of his amazing pass.
Maybe I missed something but isn't he praising the chiefs coaches?
Funny thing is they didn't introduce anyone new to the squad & the sentiment has changed completely, it turns out that developing existing players and improved detail in coaching (Paul Feeney's work with Chiefs outside backs in pre-season) can make a difference.
I'm not sure why Weber isn't rated as a running halfback though.
@nostrildamus I'll take you.miised something for 500 thanks Alex.
Imagine what Razor would achieve with the chiefs players.
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@KiwiMurph Yes, although 12 months ago (according to boardies on here...) the Chiefs back three options were useless, I remember it very clearly, we have no quality finishers they said, it's the reason we lost to Razor's mob they said, the poor performances nothing to do with the coaches, we simply don't have the cattle, they said.
Funny thing is they didn't introduce anyone new to the squad & the sentiment has changed completely, it turns out that developing existing players and improved detail in coaching (Paul Feeney's work with Chiefs outside backs in pre-season) can make a difference. The Chiefs' back three are outperforming everyone this season.
Narawa is our best 14 on show, he is almost the complete package at just 23, I'd personally take him over Telea.
@kiwi_expat said in Best players in SR this week:
@KiwiMurph Yes, although 12 months ago (according to boardies on here...) the Chiefs back three options were useless, I remember it very clearly, we have no quality finishers they said, it's the reason we lost to Razor's mob they said, the poor performances nothing to do with the coaches, we simply don't have the cattle, they said.
Funny thing is they didn't introduce anyone new to the squad & the sentiment has changed completely, it turns out that developing existing players and improved detail in coaching (Paul Feeney's work with Chiefs outside backs in pre-season) can make a difference. The Chiefs' back three are outperforming everyone this season.
Narawa is our best 14 on show, he is almost the complete package at just 23, I'd personally take him over Telea.
Your recollection may be somewhat dimmed. Chiefs had used Trask, Tiatia and Ioane at fullback, and Narawa once, and they were not up to scratch in 15. Stevenson was not used in the latter half of season. Lowe, Nankivell and Tupaea were used on the wing. ENS was horribly inconsistent - but is improved now. Narawa and Stevenson were always the best choices in my view, but were under-utilised. The complaints last year were valid. Having a consistent back three, with a suitably qualified fullback has brought out the best in all of them.
I take it you were just being facetious about the lack of Crusaders backs in the All Black XV, given they were mostly in the main AB's squad or headed overseas. Regardless, Crusaders have 30 players in their 2023 squad who have either been called into All Black or AB XV squad or played for another international team. Blues have 19, Chiefs have 22 - but 4 have not played this season. Hurricanes have 17 and Highlanders 15.
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@kiwi_expat why are you so butt hurt about people being mean towards the crusaders?
there are currently 2 NZ teams playing better than them and higher up the ladder....and so their players aren't CURRENTLY being talked up as much as others....thats makes sense doesn't it?
I legititmately dont get whats got you so worked up
a couple of things from that article
moody DOWN to a 100% chance of going?
Harmon has been very good....but 100% chance of going?
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@nostrildamus I'll take you.miised something for 500 thanks Alex.
Imagine what Razor would achieve with the chiefs players.
@Bones said in Best players in SR this week:
@nostrildamus I'll take you.miised something for 500 thanks Alex.
Imagine what Razor would achieve with the chiefs players.
Excuse my ignorance, but I've seen you make a comment mentioning "Alex" several times now. Who is Alex?
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@Bones said in Best players in SR this week:
@nostrildamus I'll take you.miised something for 500 thanks Alex.
Imagine what Razor would achieve with the chiefs players.
Excuse my ignorance, but I've seen you make a comment mentioning "Alex" several times now. Who is Alex?
@Stargazer Alex Trebek? Jeopardy? gameshow where you select a question based on topic and difficulty
"you missed something for 500"
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@kiwi_expat why are you so butt hurt about people being mean towards the crusaders?
there are currently 2 NZ teams playing better than them and higher up the ladder....and so their players aren't CURRENTLY being talked up as much as others....thats makes sense doesn't it?
I legititmately dont get whats got you so worked up
a couple of things from that article
moody DOWN to a 100% chance of going?
Harmon has been very good....but 100% chance of going?
@Kiwiwomble said in Best players in SR this week:
moody DOWN to a 100% chance of going?
sickening bias
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@nostrildamus I'll take you.miised something for 500 thanks Alex.
Imagine what Razor would achieve with the chiefs players.
@Bones said in Best players in SR this week:
@nostrildamus I'll take you.miised something for 500 thanks Alex.
Imagine what Razor would achieve with the chiefs players.
oh you think he is making a comment about Chief coaches to imply the Crusaders chief is an essential reason for Crusaders success?
Quite a long bow for a TSF poster but I appreciate the dedication to the Razor fan club! -
@kiwi_expat said in Best players in SR this week:
@Kiwiwomble Nope, was referring to the sentiment on here, as I quoted a ferner's team in my post...
Crusaders having a lot of injuries this season adds to it a lot.
@KiwiMurph said in Best players in SR this week:
@kiwi_expat said in Best players in SR this week:
@Kiwiwomble Nope, was referring to the sentiment on here, as I quoted a ferner's team in my post...
Crusaders having a lot of injuries this season adds to it a lot.
Again, you're missing the point, as in that Super Rugby form team I quoted the Crusaders, with a 5-2 record, had 1 player, even the Highlanders with a 3-4 record had more, Blues with a 5-3 record had more, Hurricanes 5-2 record (with an easier run of matches) also had more. So you could make the argument Crusaders are overachieving in comparison to those teams, especially given who's been unavailable.
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@KiwiMurph said in Best players in SR this week:
@kiwi_expat said in Best players in SR this week:
@Kiwiwomble Nope, was referring to the sentiment on here, as I quoted a ferner's team in my post...
Crusaders having a lot of injuries this season adds to it a lot.
Again, you're missing the point, as in that Super Rugby form team I quoted the Crusaders, with a 5-2 record, had 1 player, even the Highlanders with a 3-4 record had more, Blues with a 5-3 record had more, Hurricanes 5-2 record (with an easier run of matches) also had more. So you could make the argument Crusaders are overachieving in comparison to those teams, especially given who's been unavailable.
@kiwi_expat ....you understand thats not how these things work aye?
crusaders might have 15 guys rating 7 or 8 every week......and get their 5 wins...the highlanders have 2 guys rating 8-9....and 13 rating 4-6.....getting their 3 wins...but those 2 highlander are going to get picked ahead of 2 crusaders.....its not rocket surgery
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@kiwi_expat why are you so butt hurt about people being mean towards the crusaders?
there are currently 2 NZ teams playing better than them and higher up the ladder....and so their players aren't CURRENTLY being talked up as much as others....thats makes sense doesn't it?
I legititmately dont get whats got you so worked up
a couple of things from that article
moody DOWN to a 100% chance of going?
Harmon has been very good....but 100% chance of going?
@Kiwiwomble said in Best players in SR this week:
@kiwi_expat why are you so butt hurt about people being mean towards the crusaders?
there are currently 2 NZ teams playing better than them and higher up the ladder....and so their players aren't CURRENTLY being talked up as much as others....thats makes sense doesn't it?
I legititmately dont get whats got you so worked up
a couple of things from that article
moody DOWN to a 100% chance of going?
He was starting in the last one, so a demotion down to just squad
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@kiwi_expat ....you understand thats not how these things work aye?
crusaders might have 15 guys rating 7 or 8 every week......and get their 5 wins...the highlanders have 2 guys rating 8-9....and 13 rating 4-6.....getting their 3 wins...but those 2 highlander are going to get picked ahead of 2 crusaders.....its not rocket surgery
@Kiwiwomble said in Best players in SR this week:
@kiwi_expat ....you understand thats not how these things work aye?
crusaders might have 15 guys getting 7 or 8 every week......and get their 5 wins...the highlanders have 2 guys getting 8-9....and 13 getting 4-6.....getting their 3 wins...but those 2 highlander are going to get picked ahead of 2 crusaders.....its not rocket surgery
two words
innovative. systems.
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@Bones said in Best players in SR this week:
@kiwi_expat come on man, Razor is the coach next year, you got your wish, you can stop with the bizarre claims now.
Telea is absolutely the form 14 of the whole comp, Weber is absolutely a running halfback, he isn't noted for his pace because of his amazing pass.
Maybe I missed something but isn't he praising the chiefs coaches?
Funny thing is they didn't introduce anyone new to the squad & the sentiment has changed completely, it turns out that developing existing players and improved detail in coaching (Paul Feeney's work with Chiefs outside backs in pre-season) can make a difference.
I'm not sure why Weber isn't rated as a running halfback though.
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