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  • CrucialC Offline
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    @NTA said in internet/streaming:

    FINALLY the fibre in our street pits is going to be turned on.

    It will be zero for the install - as it fucking should be - but the monthly spend with my current provider Exetel is still $95 for 100/40 πŸ™„

    If I go with them for their fastest plan it is $130/month for quoted 500/50 with actuals of an evening being half that.

    Aussie Broadband offer 1000/50 (evening typical @ 600/42) for $150... πŸ€”

    Given the tax man will eat a portion of that anyway, I might go with the current provider and see if we need to go any faster.

    And that won't be complete until well into May regardles....

    Why the decreased performance in the evening? That used to be a copper backhaul capacity issue but shouldn't be a problem for fibre.
    Freakin' ripoff prices. 69 NZPesos for 300/40 is the standard here. And that's FTTH. Gig Fibre anywhere between $85-110 and 'Hyper Fibre available in some places too

    Welcome to the 2010s though πŸ˜‰

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    @Crucial said in internet/streaming:

    Why the decreased performance in the evening? That used to be a copper backhaul capacity issue but shouldn't be a problem for fibre.

    Two issues:

    1. RSPs only buy a certain amount of bandwidth from the wholesaler based on their predictions for a given area.
    2. Same as before: backhaul reaches congestion points because the Multi Tech Mix was piss-poor design from the start. Even fibre has limits when it has been built by a tight-arse.
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    Well, life comes at you fast. Got an SMS advising a tech would be doing the assessment for exterior connection in the next couple of days. That should mean everything from the pit to the NTD is checked and done by the end of the week.

    Email from my RSP advising installation for internals will be April 26th.

    My son turns 19 that day and will no doubt celebrate by downloading a fuckton of stuff for the PS5...

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  • NTAN Offline
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    Up on the NSW North coast for a week as Mrs TA is overseeing one of her regions here, and the rest of us tagged along for the ride.

    Hotel room goes alright:

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    Install went well. Tech very happy that he had minimal work to do as the exterior box with the fibre was only about 500mm vertically from where I wanted the internal box mounted. Laughing.

    Hooked it all up and speed tests on my network were shit. Fibre Box --> Modem WAN port --> Google Home --> Network switch. Should be easy, right? Wrong.

    So after 24 hours of fucking around with support, I did a factory reset on the Google Home and that fixed the lot.

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    This may look like peasant speed to you Kiwis, but it is finally something half-useful for us.

    And the fibre reboot only takes about a minute to come back online, compared to ~5 for VDSL.

    Might just go grab the 500/50 plan anyway.

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    (The boy downloaded something that was listed as 2h 48m on the old connection. New connection did it in 5 minutes flat).

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    @NTA said in internet/streaming:

    (The boy downloaded something that was listed as 2h 48m on the old connection. New connection did it in 5 minutes flat).

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  • CrucialC Offline
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    It’s like a caveman discovering fire.

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    @Crucial said in internet/streaming:

    It’s like a caveman discovering fire.

    That's $95-a-month fire as well....

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  • KruseK Offline
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    Just moved to a new location... but probably only going to be here a couple of months.
    I've been using my work cellphone hotspot as my only internet access so far... just 4G - 51Mbps down, 7 up - upon testing just now.
    According to VodafOne's map - there is fucking 5G coverage - 600m to the west of me, 600m to the east of me - and a big patch 500m north... in the middle of the ocean. Fluffybunnies.
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    I'm debating whether I should even bother getting Fibre connected... but I'll be plugging in the "Media-Rig" soon... which will start torrent-ing a shitload.
    I admit - I'm also kinda curious as to if, and how soon, alarm bells start ringing on the company phone plan.

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    @Kruse said in internet/streaming:

    and a big patch 500m north... in the middle of the ocean

    You'll need your 5G while you're relaxing on your luxury yacht.

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    @NTA said in internet/streaming:

    And the fibre reboot only takes about a minute to come back online, compared to ~5 for VDSL.
    Might just go grab the 500/50 plan anyway.

    Jealous. Not even on NBN's future plan for fibre up-grade.

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    Interesting thing: my RSP offers 5 "speed boost" days per month which takes my 100/40 up to the next tier of 250/25... πŸ€” No idea why it needs to shape the upload but I guess that is something to do with the way in which backhaul is balanced.

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    Upload speed never seems to reach the peak stated value, while download always seems to exceed it.

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    @NTA said in internet/streaming:

    Interesting thing: my RSP offers 5 "speed boost" days per month which takes my 100/40 up to the next tier of 250/25... πŸ€” No idea why it needs to shape the upload but I guess that is something to do with the way in which backhaul is balanced.

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    Probably just pricing structures. We were the same here with wholesale brackets to ISPs being set by the network provider. They eventually decided that, at wholesale, it created cost to run different pricing bands for billing and switching and just changed the bracket to a higher dominator. Best thing was that the wholesaler/network company told the public and that forced the hands of the ISPs to provide the customer with the best product

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    @Crucial would be nice if I could build my own e.g. 250 down is a base price of $x.xx and comes with 25 up. If you want to increase upload, that's another $10 a month to get to 40 etc.

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  • NTAN Offline
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    It is getting to the point where I may finally get to use the flow control options on my network switch i.e. limiting certain ports (like the boy's PS5) to 100mbps...

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  • CrucialC Offline
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    @NTA said in internet/streaming:

    @Crucial would be nice if I could build my own e.g. 250 down is a base price of $x.xx and comes with 25 up. If you want to increase upload, that's another $10 a month to get to 40 etc.

    That's a lot of cost to the ISP and Wholesaler to manage. Hopefully things over there will go as ours did and the bigger plans become the norm.
    Our base wholesale plan was originally only 40 I think. There was no demand for that when you could get 100 for the same price but was a legacy of the original deal with the Govt for financial underwriting. They wanted to ensure an affordable product.
    Probably one of the few examples of 'the market' doing a good job. Base of 40 became base of 100 at the same price which became a base of 300 as higher Gig + plans came on board.
    Wholesalers don't want a complicated array of plans because of the added provisioning and billing costs. ISPs will pass those costs on but have realised that it is easier to flick an on/off switch than put provisioning/billing/customer support around having a variety of products.
    Early days for you guys.

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  • NTAN Offline
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    Makes sense.

    Anyway I've just used this new speed tier to download and install Morrowind, oblivion, and Skyrim in under 25 minutes. ~32Gig of elder scrolls games inside half an hour. Nice.

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  • CrucialC Offline
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    @NTA said in internet/streaming:

    Makes sense.

    Anyway I've just used this new speed tier to download and install Morrowind, oblivion, and Skyrim in under 25 minutes. ~32Gig of elder scrolls games inside half an hour. Nice.

    It's funny when you out it in these terms. I don't download much so don't measure like that. Work stuff is cloud and entertainment is streaming. Fuck knows how anyone finds the time to play a game. I struggle to keep up with a TV series as I fall asleep.
    Old man problems I guess.

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